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Post Post #275 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:17 pm

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In post 272, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 271, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 237, gameplay506 wrote:Thing is how does RCE not accounting for Drew being a jester make RCE scum? From all I know if Drew gets lynched he wins solo so its not really scumindicative rathet than dumbindicative what RCE is doing
I don't actually have a problem if drew is jester. It's still non town and not the worst lynch.
A mislynch is a mislynch.
I guess, gameplay wise it's similar but jester is still 3rd party. So like the ultimatum you face is don't vote him in the hopes he's lying or lynch him because he might be town and might recruit tonight.

The play in my mind is to lynch him regardless, if he's lying ok we lose a lynch. If he's not lying we lose a lynch today and keep cult manageable or we lose a lynch down the line and cult becomes a threat.
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Post Post #276 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:23 pm

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I guess my real problem is that actual scum or cultists might use Drew as a distraction and I don't want to end today with what feels like a coinflip to me. It's better to generate more on D1. If the only end answer is a Drew lynch then I won't oppose it, but I feel we all can do better.
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Post Post #277 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:31 pm

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In post 273, RCEnigma wrote:Vork still misrepping anything he can to make his case.
In post 274, Vorkuta wrote:
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In post 252, Vorkuta wrote:I've literally given them to you in point form just now- your life should be easy if you GENUINELY have issues with them and are not doing this for show
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Post Post #278 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:34 pm

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But the goal of scum hunting is to ultimately vote scum. Voting drew is the mechanical right answer I feel. I'm also pretty shitty with mechanics so take that with an ocean of salt.

To me it locks town into voting drew and scum doesn't care about drew dying so they don't gain anything by staying away. The day is going to be mostly setup spec around Drew's role anyway and what better way to get an answer or better grasp on the setup than flipping him.
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Post Post #279 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:34 pm

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I have no control over who is recruited, there is no role that can stop it.....but some people cant be recruited.....including myself.

Hope that clears up the confusion.

The Cyrus as cult theory holds some weight, I will have to look at a few people to give a better read on who may potentially be cult.
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Post Post #280 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:36 pm

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In post 277, Vorkuta wrote:
In post 273, RCEnigma wrote:Vork still misrepping anything he can to make his case.
In post 274, Vorkuta wrote:
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In post 252, Vorkuta wrote:I've literally given them to you in point form just now- your life should be easy if you GENUINELY have issues with them and are not doing this for show
I gave some possibilities to consider instead of walking the line. Stop pushing it like I'm telling everyone there's only town in the game.

Neither things about the mafia/cult have to coincide and not once have I expressed either as my view on the game.

It's a bad case, idk why you keep pushing if there is any chance you're town.
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Post Post #281 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:40 pm

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I don't really want to speculate on who cult is when we have 5-6 slots with little to no input.
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Post Post #282 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:42 pm

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In post 259, Doctor Drew wrote:so it isn't 100% that someone is recruited, but also no way to know if a recruit was successful or not.
still some confusion

Here's how I understand it
13 players (ok 12 with the NK, and 11 with korina dead), out of them ....."4" are ineligible to be recruited

QUESTION:
is there a GUARANTEED recruitment from the remaining 7 players
OR
is there a recruitment within the 11, but there's the possibility that one of the 4 ineligibles was RNG'd and the recruitment failed?
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Post Post #283 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:44 pm

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In post 281, RCEnigma wrote:I don't really want to speculate on who cult is when we have 5-6 slots with little to no input.
Baezu is modding another game I am in and has basically been MIA since she started the game.

I wouldn't expect much from her.

Pre Edit: Just stated that some people can't be recruited.
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Post Post #284 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:45 pm

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In post 280, RCEnigma wrote:Stop pushing it like I'm telling everyone there's only town in the game.
I'm sorry that quoting your posts makes you feel misrepresented
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In post 280, RCEnigma wrote:It's a bad case, idk why you keep pushing if there is any chance you're town.
Because your alternate viewpoints are bad and detrimental to town cohesion.
case in point: you indirectly made chemist depressed with your horrible setupspec
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Post Post #285 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:46 pm

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In post 283, Doctor Drew wrote:Pre Edit: Just stated that some people can't be recruited.
that's not what I asked
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Post Post #286 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:47 pm

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In post 285, Vorkuta wrote:
In post 283, Doctor Drew wrote:Pre Edit: Just stated that some people can't be recruited.
that's not what I asked
Ah shoot

That probably means that you can't give us an answer
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Post Post #287 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:51 pm

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In post 283, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 281, RCEnigma wrote:I don't really want to speculate on who cult is when we have 5-6 slots with little to no input.
Baezu is modding another game I am in and has basically been MIA since she started the game.

I wouldn't expect much from her.

Pre Edit: Just stated that some people can't be recruited.
It could be literally anything. Last time I rolled Cult I could only recruit prime numbered roles.
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Post Post #288 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:51 pm

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So here's my little theory

If drew was a jester (or anything that wants to get lynched), I think he'd go big and "fudge" the details a bit.
Along the lines of "THERE ABSOLUTELY 100% WILL BE A RECRUITMENT AS LONG AS IM ALIVE"

The fact that he's still trying to the best of his ability to give us """honest""" (in a bastard game) information is telling IMHO
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Post Post #289 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:53 pm

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Hm...

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #290 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:55 pm

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VOTE: Doc
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Post Post #291 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:01 pm

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now that i have cught up i will state why i unvoted nom pointed ouit my fear but i will go deeper. what if doctor is jester and lying and we kill him and the recult dose get another cult meber
this would make 3 cults then unless we find the person making cults is killed then we will always be out number. we are taking chance voting doctor.

now here is the wired part doctor and i go back to my 1st game and his i honestly think the way hes playing is good for town but what if hes just cult trying to deflect from the guy making more cult.

i only said kill me to make sure some other random town doesn't die due to me not know who is who i rather me a non power role die then a town pr.

i want to know whats with ?? voting game play and us being told its town voting game play any one want to know why ?? is voting game play besides me
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Post Post #292 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:02 pm

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In post 291, cyrus62 wrote:this would make 3 cults then
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Post Post #293 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:15 pm

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Ico he's doing it again.
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Post Post #294 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:16 pm

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In post 286, Vorkuta wrote:
In post 285, Vorkuta wrote:
In post 283, Doctor Drew wrote:Pre Edit: Just stated that some people can't be recruited.
that's not what I asked
Ah shoot

That probably means that you can't give us an answer
It doesn't go into specifics on who can or can't be recruited, I am sure there is some sort of mechanic (even as simple as some people are just inrecruitable), but I can neither confirm nor deny any option.
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Post Post #295 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:17 pm

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Jester is getting thrown around a lot and I don't really get why a jester win is more threatening to town than a cult is. Drew is today's vote.
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Post Post #296 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:18 pm

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I also don't want to talk about the vote on gameplay. It's stated by mid to be a town vote but isn't truth confirmed.
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Post Post #297 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:23 pm

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EVERYBODY HOLD THE FUCK ON.

I have been reading my role PM over and over again and I think I may have something good here.

Like I said, it says not everyone can be recruited.

It says I win when all threats to the town are eliminated.

But, and this is what is making me think, it also says town being converted is not good for town.

Makes me think that even though I have no control over who is converted I will not convert town because I am pro town.

Discuss.
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Post Post #298 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:26 pm

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I think it more implies that other factions are also recruitable. Like scum or other possible 3rd parties.
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Post Post #299 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:26 pm

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Also, not sure if I mentioned, it says I will recruit for the first two nights.....and probably the third......but doesn't mention any nights after that.

There are probably three mafia this game.

I think I only recruit mafia into the cult.

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