Mini Normal 2102: Mafia à la Mode! (Game Complete)

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I think speculating about this only helps scum to be honest.

Why would he speculate about their being a strongman and claim he targeted someone other than Skitter? It doesn’t make sense as either alignment. It makes more sense as just a passing thought inspired by Saladman27 speculating that scum have a ninja.

[Almost50]

There’s probably a strongman

It’s obvious who I targeted and he should have known from the very beginning I was gonna target him.

Shall I claim it now or wait

Thats if im reading this right

He claims there is a strongman. Thus some must have still died

If he had blocked a kill he wouldnt be talking about a strongman

Erm.. skitter is a SHE, and pretentious is familiar with her enough. I think he said strongman to justify the existence of a Doctor AND a Jailer in the same setup. Whether it's a sincere deduction is another matter altogether.

[bob3141]

Wait! It seems like 1008 is still the last post from Pretentious, and I don't see him claiming his target yet. What am I missing?

I think i miss read his post. Just relised he says him not her.

I assumed the claim meant he had claimed to have visited skitter and a kill and she had still be killed


As there is no why a player roleblocking a person would know there was a strongman. As if that player was scum you dont know if they simply didnt perform a kill.

[Almost50]

It makes more sense as just a passing thought inspired by Saladman27 speculating that scum have a ninja.

I mean, I think that scum have a night kill. Actually, I believe they do.

[bob3141]

By my shitty deduction, I’m guessing there’s a ninja in scum team.

Also: New Avatar

what makes you think that

[Mizzytastic]

No vig kill on skitter, no claim => we probably lynch pret

No vig kill on skitter, claim => a50, pret, claim are very likely scum team, but do we find out too late?

Vig kill on skitter, no claim => we probably lynch pret, get angry later

Vig kill on skitter, claim => either someone stopped scum (lends credence to pret as jk), or scum gambitted and are trying to capitalise (looks bad for a50 for pushing this plan and pret for being 'saved' by the gambit)

Anything I'm missing?

[Mizzytastic]

@a50 why are you so unconvinced that scum would kill skitter based on threat?

[Almost50]

@a50 why are you so unconvinced that scum would kill skitter based on threat?

I already explained it. skitter is a good scum NK in general, but the lol!hammer makes it a bad kill. When I want to avoid being NK'd I usually try to do something like that on D1, and it keeps me in the lynchpool for the rest of the game, so scum are less inclined to shoo me.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I found the hammer made her obvious town due to her reaction shortly after.

[Almost50]

That's what I'd do as scum, actually! "Sorry! Didn't mean it. Wasn't counting. Really sorry."

[RCEnigma]

Even with the hammer I never thought Hey Skitter might be scum.

[bob3141]

Cant beleive she lolhammered again. She lolhammered as town last game i played with her aswell.

[Pretentious]

Bob is having really bad assumptions.

I’m not a full JK, and that wasn’t a full doctor?

If there’s a strongman that makes this not even town over powered.

I jailed RCEnigma last night.

[Pretentious]

That entire Bob-Mizzy discussion is super surface level, and comes from a place of pushing for a setup case when the fact that we’re gated means anything.

Mizzy also stated that they see a “protection crumb” from someone else which is yet another hard assumption just to throw more wood into the fire.

[Pretentious]

VT x4
Tracker
Indecisive doctor
X-shot Jailkeeper
PR
PR
PR

Scum 1-Shot Strongman
Scum 1-Shot Ninja/Roleblocker
Scum Goon

Something like that is probably what the setup is.

I could see one more Vt Or one less PR.

PR could be like Friendly Neighbor to a Roleblocker. I think both of those, gated, makes sense for a game like this.

[bob3141]

Was still a full doctor just with a few restrictions. Tris could still protect a person every night. Just not the same two days in a row

And i dont think even not full jk fits in this game. Just reminds me of teh set up were scum had a 2 shot jk and town a doc.

[Pretentious]

I really can’t see another protective in this game. At least not doctor

Bodyguard would fit nicely here.

Bodyguard/JK/Doctor/tracker

Is a good combination, and adds WIFOM.

Bodyguard protects through a strongman kill.

The amount of stuff like that actually weakens my role too, because we have the discussion of “what blocked the kill” WIFOM.

It’s a Thrill on a No Kill setup.

[Pretentious]

Was still a full doctor just with a few restrictions. Tris could still protect a person every night. Just not the same two days in a row

And i dont think even not full jk fits in this game. Just reminds me of teh set up were scum had a 2 shot jk and town a doc.

Why would I ever claim JK as scum there?

I don’t claim my real role when I’m scum.

If you’re trying to push a scum case on me, don’t push it like I’m a JK because I can give you all my 8 scum wins this year alone, and you’ll see not a single one of them do I claim my actual role.

I am the fake claim god.

[bob3141]

pret how would your suggestion not be very town sided.

5 and half town pr vs 2 one shot abilities

Just looks your inventing roles to just try and fit yours in

[Pretentious]

It was stronger than Non Consecutive, it wasn’t a full doctor, though.

It specifically stops from babysitting on someone, which is one of the best parts of a doctor

[bob3141]

Was still a full doctor just with a few restrictions. Tris could still protect a person every night. Just not the same two days in a row

And i dont think even not full jk fits in this game. Just reminds me of teh set up were scum had a 2 shot jk and town a doc.

Why would I ever claim JK as scum there?

I don’t claim my real role when I’m scum.

If you’re trying to push a scum case on me, don’t push it like I’m a JK because I can give you all my 8 scum wins this year alone, and you’ll see not a single one of them do I claim my actual role.

I am the fake claim god.

So you dont claim your real role as scum. That does not preclude you being scum and fake claiming jk

[bob3141]

Pret are you claiming town could have 3 goes at stopping a a nk. Seems why to op for town for me

[Pretentious]

pret how would your suggestion not be very town sided.

5 and half town pr vs 2 one shot abilities

Just looks your inventing roles to just try and fit yours in

Because that many town roles of that manner arent townsided.

It’s all WIFOM.

I’m not saying I’m correct with the amount of shots, or even the roles.

JOAT makes sense with those 1 shot abilities, and i was gonna being that up but i got distracted.

I know my balance. The games I mod I generally load with a lot of town roles that don’t actually matter too much, but still have synergy. I’m also part of the Normal Review Group.

I agree with you. Though, i don’t think it’s those 2 1 shots.

But i was more just trying to prove that a 1-shot strongman even decimates and brings balance back to them because our roles don’t matter on a night they have a strongman which just means they have to make good use of it.

[Pretentious]

Pret are you claiming town could have 3 goes at stopping a a nk. Seems why to op for town for me

Was still a full doctor just with a few restrictions. Tris could still protect a person every night. Just not the same two days in a row

And i dont think even not full jk fits in this game. Just reminds me of teh set up were scum had a 2 shot jk and town a doc.

Why would I ever claim JK as scum there?

I don’t claim my real role when I’m scum.

If you’re trying to push a scum case on me, don’t push it like I’m a JK because I can give you all my 8 scum wins this year alone, and you’ll see not a single one of them do I claim my actual role.

I am the fake claim god.

So you dont claim your real role as scum. That does not preclude you being scum and fake claiming jk

And this is actually another point of mine.

One of your biggest reasons is because you saw a scum JK before.

[Pretentious]

Pret are you claiming town could have 3 goes at stopping a a nk. Seems why to op for town for me

No, I’m claiming town might have zero because of the Strongman.

Rendering both my role and doctor useless in a given night that it is used.

And a bodyguard would go from a relatively weaker role to a pretty good one in that scenario.