Mini Normal 2102: Mafia à la Mode! (Game Complete)

[RCEnigma]

Pret just a quick question when would you say adding addittional modifiers moves into teh region of self limiting. Trying to figure out if your self limiting or beign truthful about only so mnay shots

If you don't believe his claim why would you believe how many shots he's claiming?

[bob3141]

Pret just a quick question when would you say adding addittional modifiers moves into teh region of self limiting. Trying to figure out if your self limiting or beign truthful about only so mnay shots

If you don't believe his claim why would you believe how many shots he's claiming?

The question is still valid. he has claimed 2 shot so want to probe that area bit.

[bob3141]

I’m too big a threat for scum to keep alive, but if they are forced to night kill me, they already lose.

town does not post this

nor anything that pret says on this page

why wouldnt town say something like this. Not that i agree or disagree. Just that i would liek to see your reasonign behind this

[Pretentious]

Pret just a quick question when would you say adding addittional modifiers moves into teh region of self limiting. Trying to figure out if your self limiting or beign truthful about only so mnay shots

I don’t have any other modifiers. Just 2-shot.

[Pretentious]

I was just making an example with the modifier talk. I see why it can be seen as me crumbing weak, but I’m not.

[bob3141]

Pret what does tracker and doc flip make you think about the all the roles in the game.

[Pretentious]

A reason me claiming 2 shot immediately makes it like “oh, he’s limited, just outguess, potentially strongman one of the nights then they aren’t essentially VT.”

On the flip side, claiming 1 shot or 2 shot when you are actually ungated or 3+/odd night/even

Can be a solid gambit to catch out unexpected scum too.

Like I said, I’m 2-shot, I’m being sincere. I am throwing out my ability to have wiggle room here even though I’d rather not.

[Pretentious]

Pret what does tracker and doc flip make you think about the all the roles in the game.

Tracker is incredibly weakened considering it’s likely we have a lot of targeting options. It gives scum room to fake claim, and it’s more likely to out other PR’s than catch a scum. I don’t really think there is a ninja, which isn’t really important to us now that the tracker’s gone, unless there’s a watcher.

Recently, i finished a game, and scum had 2 identical JOATS. Ninja, Doctor, Tracker were their shots.

So that’s possible, even though I don’t think that’s the case.

[Pretentious]

Mastina and BnL reviewed this game, so I imagine it’s a slightly townsided game, even though it’s probably gonna come across as a scum sided game based on us losing 2 PR’s, and then scum pull off the win and go “it was incredibly townsided wtf”

if that makes sense.

Which will cause Mastina come in to defend why she doesn’t think that’s the case and that it is relatively balanced.

I don’t really know Plum super well or anything, but they seem like they have the clout and mind to create a solid unique game.

Based on the what I’ve seen thus far, I can tell they’re pretty old school classic mafia feel with some stylish decorations to make it feel mechanically unique, which is another reason I like the idea of a strongman being in this game.

It’s very “Thrill on a No Kill” which allows for awesome day play, even if it forces us to think it’s a night play game when Night play is pretty irrelevant. It’s just things that happen.

It’s another reason I don’t think there’s a vigilante this game. It would imbalance the kills per night, and scum already have to deal with a lot of no kills.

The thing is, scum can have one no kill go through as it is, and still end the game in the same amount of days, so it’s not damning at all to have all these protectives.

Them having a strongman kill to ensure a kill goes through when they want to.

Alternatively, they don’t have a strongman, and they’re pissed about all of these protectives roles, but in that case, they probably have a Roleblocker or something, which also synergizes well against a townJK/doc combo.

[Pretentious]

Alternatively, I could believe town has a Roleblocker on top of the JK/Doc because of the full tracker gets results messed with, and the combination of those 4 roles can be beneficial if town work together, and detrimental if they’re in chaos.

Scum could have an Ascetic to mess with JK/Doc/RB/tracker results.

Jk
Doc
Tracker
Rb’er
Babysitter/rolestopper
Maybe one more?

Ascetic/Strongman/Roleblocker - i don’t expect all of these, and they could have something else, like a rolestopper.
One goon.

Whatever the call is, the roles essentially play as the same

[Pretentious]

It just matters if you’re playing as a Cleric or a Paladin kinda thing.

[bob3141]

lol im certainly getting teh feeling this game is murky.

[Pretentious]

As much as people like to think I’m mainly a fan of crazy roles and whatnot, I actually much prefer held back Normal games, my skill set as a mod just shines brighter making an atmosphere of a game rather than the great solid mechanical play, but I’m rather strong as a player in the settings that are more akin to face to face Mafia.

It makes me really good at playing games like Resistance/Secret Hitler when I’m town.

(I’m modding a game on Morality that needs a couple more slots to fill beforeI can start, if anyone wants to join)

[bob3141]

ive just looked at the start of thread. And it says mafia doesnt have day talk by default

[Pretentious]

lol im certainly getting teh feeling this game is murky.

I think it’s murky, yet straightforward, if that makes sense.

The PR’s seem like they’re pretty OG. Can tell this is made from a 2008 player in 2019. Plum’s did well.

[Pretentious]

ive just looked at the start of thread. And it says mafia doesnt have day talk by default

Hmm. They could have an Encryptor then.

[bob3141]

does that mean scum could have encryptor or that it simply says they dont have day talk

[bob3141]

before i saw this i got teh feeling there was an internal caht goign on in the thread. A few players felt that they were asking other should we kill pret

[Pretentious]

does that mean scum could have encryptor or that it simply says they dont have day talk

It means if they don’t have an encryptor they can’t talk to each other during the day.

[bob3141]

in the guise of them saying if pret doesnt die we shoudl lynch him tommorrow

[Saladman27]

I blinked and 10 pages had gone by. VOTE: DDL, I’ll explain later why.

[Pretentious]

in the guise of them saying if pret doesnt die we shoudl lynch him tommorrow

Do you remember where this was said?

I believe something like this could have appeared to happen for sure, i just don’t know if going down the rabbit hole of scum don’t have day talk is good to get locked into in case there’s an encryptor

[bob3141]

cant remember were i saw them. Currently trying to find them

[Pretentious]

Bob
Mizzy

Luv
A50

Rcenigma
Skellen
Saladman
BrightEyedFish

Ben
DDL

Is where I’m at, I think. Luv’s had some posts that I’ve tried to look at coming from a scummy agenda, but i just don’t understand why he says some of the things he does, and i feel like i normally can tell when he’s scum since I’ve seen scum him a lot. He lurks and does nothing as both, but he does even less as scum in his doing nothing, if that makes sense, and he’s had a couple memorable posts this game.

[Mizzytastic]

I assume my 954 was part of it been as it made him want to go check something. Don't know why I'd be trying to have a (not very) covert chat in the thread when whatever happens night is a few hours away as scum but I guess we'll see what he pulls up on the other people he thinks was in the conversation.

Also the I felt the whiplash on that reads list. I know you like to re-evaluate but wow.

DDL seems pretty desperate when I unvote. Like he genuinely feels if the push doesn't happen now it's not gonna. Feels squicky to me.

@DDL Make a case for me on Pret. If people I trust tell me my setup spec is reasonably wrong then I lose my main reason to be voting Pret. You want me to keep voting there, sell me on it. Right now I'm at reading Pret is hard and I need to sleep. Pick out some stuff for me and convince me it's outside Pret's town game.