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Post Post #1350 (ISO) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:05 am

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@Saladman:
In post 1300, Skellen wrote: While we are at it also don't forget to tell what was up with that heel turn on tris on D1 from townread to vote on her. (not the vote at EoD)
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Post Post #1351 (ISO) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:07 am

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I can't tell if Saladman is scum or just awkward town. I kind of want to lean on the latter, eerrh but I dunno.
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Post Post #1352 (ISO) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:08 am

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As for DDL I think his case on A50 seems townie, I actually share his observation about A50 to an extent regarding his handling of Pret. I think I lean town on DDl for now, he seemed to me more like scummy town than scum and going by my wagon analysis in case of scum!DDL I have some doubts if he could be a team with Saladman or LUV. Want to reread some stuff just in case though.
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Post Post #1353 (ISO) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:17 am

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Skellen, vote RCEnigma with me.
I will see all of you in the FUN ZONE
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Post Post #1354 (ISO) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:20 am

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In post 779, Plum wrote:
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Pretentious
- 4 (RCEnigma, benhalkum, Saladman27, DrDoolittle)
DrDolittle
- 4 (bob3141, skitter30, Mizzytastic, Almost50)

benhalkum
- 2 (Pretentious, BrightEyedFish)
bob3141
- 1 (Lil Uzi Vert)
BrightEyedFish
- 2 (Skellen, tris)

Not Voting
- None

With 13 alive it's 7 to lynch.
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(expired on 2019-10-10 22:00:00)


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is V/LA 10/08 through 10/09.
FL look at the team you're pushing. Then consider a hypothetical world where you, DDL, and Tris are all town. Then consider the entire team you are pushing is on your wagon (T) while DDL(T) is in hammer range while none of those three scum you propose have hard stances on DDL. They just need 1 reason to jump ship.

Skitter is easy enough to follow and even on a surface level taking her case at face value is decent enough to make that shift.

And then all on its own, the Tris wagon popped up. I feel guilty having a hand in that when I grilled Tris but I hadn't come to a conclusion by the time she was hammered.

My point is you're saying things to say them right now.
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Post Post #1355 (ISO) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:21 am

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In post 1347, Pretentious wrote:He also gave himself an out and reason to completely change his reads for after I flip with the “the whole game is flipped when he flips town”

And if you think BEF is scum, push BEF.
If you're scum then Bef is likely scum. His equity, scum or town, is directly tied to you and/or A50. Moreso you I think.
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Post Post #1356 (ISO) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:22 am

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I'm not even explicitly calling bef scum but there is definitely reason to suspect that is the case on your red flip.
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Post Post #1357 (ISO) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:25 am

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In post 1351, Skellen wrote:I can't tell if Saladman is scum or just awkward town. I kind of want to lean on the latter, eerrh but I dunno.
I've only seen his town game and it's always been awkward town. I don't think I've played with salad and he hasn't been lynched.
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Post Post #1358 (ISO) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:27 am

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In post 1356, RCEnigma wrote:I'm not even explicitly calling bef scum but there is definitely reason to suspect that is the case on your red flip.
Pret will flip red. But I honestly feel BEF is town.
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Post Post #1359 (ISO) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:28 am

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The most reasonable explanation for the flash wagon is the hesitancy from slots suspicious of pret to actually Lynch there but there was still threat. DDL couldn't get off the ground but deadline and the probing on Tris caught traction.

I think DDL is town and there is scum in the common votes between DDL and Tris.
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Post Post #1360 (ISO) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:28 am

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In post 1357, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 1351, Skellen wrote:I can't tell if Saladman is scum or just awkward town. I kind of want to lean on the latter, eerrh but I dunno.
I've only seen his town game and it's always been awkward town. I don't think I've played with salad and he hasn't been lynched.
Kinda went over this earlier myself. Awkward town is def a better way to put it then my rambling though.
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Post Post #1361 (ISO) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:27 pm

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Prod LUV please moderator Plum
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Post Post #1362 (ISO) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:40 pm

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I'm still here DDL.

You wanted something from me?
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Post Post #1363 (ISO) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:41 pm

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yeah i want everything from you
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Post Post #1364 (ISO) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:42 pm

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you said you dont like day 1 and that's fine. but now there's plenty of associatives to go on, so its very concerning to me that you're not doing anything today
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Post Post #1365 (ISO) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:26 pm

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Votecount 2.2
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Pretentious
- 2 (benhalkum, RCEnigma)
DoctorDoolittle
- 2 (Saladman27, Almost50)
Mizzytastic
- 1 (bob3141)
Saladman27
- 1 (BrightEyedFish)
Almost50
- 1 (DrDoolittle)
RCEnigma
- 1 (Pretentious)

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- 3 (Skellen, Lil Uzi Vert, Mizzytastic)


With 11 alive it's 6 to lynch.
Deadline:
(expired on 2019-10-22 21:00:00)
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Post Post #1366 (ISO) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:45 pm

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In post 1326, Mizzytastic wrote:Not sure I'm ready to see DDL as town yet, but I do accept the frustration over how Pret plays as genuine.

Saladman, a challenge for you - one sentence about every player. I don't think I scum read you but you are definitely coasting and I wanna hear what you have to say.
A50, Kinda scummy, most of his posts are like mine but he has actual humour.
Ben, He has been coasting but I can understand big gaps because of rl, the thing I don’t really get is that he Townreads me.
Bob, Townlean, he has great analyses of the game and asks great questions.
BEF, Townlean, not much to say except why did you turn me null into scum other than the “scum talkity”?
DDL, The first half of D2 was just “lynch pret, ignore him” but he has improved recently after voting a50. UNVOTE:
LUV, I haven’t actually noticed LUV that much but reading his ISO, Why did you put Tris at L-1
Miz, Fine, except for 982, you said skit’s reaction to hammer was off, yet LUV was the only one who said she was obv town...
FOS: LUV

Pret, I just think he’s lynchbait (am I using it correctly?) for scum to wagon him.
RC, I’m leaning towards master manipulator on this one.
Skellen, She’s town for me, making alot of town plays.

Misc, I think the Tris sudden death lynch was kind of weird, I know I was in the wagon but Idk why it gained so much traction.

Sorry for being late, I worked on this inbetween classes.
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Post Post #1367 (ISO) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:48 pm

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In post 1357, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 1351, Skellen wrote:I can't tell if Saladman is scum or just awkward town. I kind of want to lean on the latter, eerrh but I dunno.
I've only seen his town game and it's always been awkward town. I don't think I've played with salad and he hasn't been lynched.
Newb 1924, I was lynched then.
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Post Post #1368 (ISO) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 5:01 pm

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In post 1366, Saladman27 wrote:Pret, I just think he’s lynchbait (am I using it correctly?) for scum to wagon him.
FL you should sig this
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Post Post #1369 (ISO) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:56 pm

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@Pret and DDL
Join me on Salad and make that the top wagon. What good is placing your votes away from each other's wagon and not combining them to save you both.
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Post Post #1370 (ISO) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:29 pm

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Bad fish, stop it.
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Post Post #1371 (ISO) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:01 pm

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In post 1370, RCEnigma wrote:Bad fish, stop it.
Sorry Boss.
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Post Post #1372 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:36 am

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In post 1366, Saladman27 wrote:
In post 1326, Mizzytastic wrote:Not sure I'm ready to see DDL as town yet, but I do accept the frustration over how Pret plays as genuine.

Saladman, a challenge for you - one sentence about every player. I don't think I scum read you but you are definitely coasting and I wanna hear what you have to say.
A50, Kinda scummy, most of his posts are like mine but he has actual humour.
Ben, He has been coasting but I can understand big gaps because of rl, the thing I don’t really get is that he Townreads me.
Bob, Townlean, he has great analyses of the game and asks great questions.
BEF, Townlean, not much to say except why did you turn me null into scum other than the “scum talkity”?
DDL, The first half of D2 was just “lynch pret, ignore him” but he has improved recently after voting a50. UNVOTE:
LUV, I haven’t actually noticed LUV that much but reading his ISO, Why did you put Tris at L-1
Miz, Fine, except for 982, you said skit’s reaction to hammer was off, yet LUV was the only one who said she was obv town...
FOS: LUV

Pret, I just think he’s lynchbait (am I using it correctly?) for scum to wagon him.
RC, I’m leaning towards master manipulator on this one.
Skellen, She’s town for me, making alot of town plays.

Misc, I think the Tris sudden death lynch was kind of weird, I know I was in the wagon but Idk why it gained so much traction.

Sorry for being late, I worked on this inbetween classes.
I read this post 3 times.

1st read through - Does he townread everyone?
2nd read though - Is he scum with A50?
3rd read through - Both?

Result: ???
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Post Post #1373 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:20 am

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In post 1372, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 1366, Saladman27 wrote:
In post 1326, Mizzytastic wrote:Not sure I'm ready to see DDL as town yet, but I do accept the frustration over how Pret plays as genuine.

Saladman, a challenge for you - one sentence about every player. I don't think I scum read you but you are definitely coasting and I wanna hear what you have to say.
A50, Kinda scummy, most of his posts are like mine but he has actual humour.
Ben, He has been coasting but I can understand big gaps because of rl, the thing I don’t really get is that he Townreads me.
Bob, Townlean, he has great analyses of the game and asks great questions.
BEF, Townlean, not much to say except why did you turn me null into scum other than the “scum talkity”?
DDL, The first half of D2 was just “lynch pret, ignore him” but he has improved recently after voting a50. UNVOTE:
LUV, I haven’t actually noticed LUV that much but reading his ISO, Why did you put Tris at L-1
Miz, Fine, except for 982, you said skit’s reaction to hammer was off, yet LUV was the only one who said she was obv town...
FOS: LUV

Pret, I just think he’s lynchbait (am I using it correctly?) for scum to wagon him.
RC, I’m leaning towards master manipulator on this one.
Skellen, She’s town for me, making alot of town plays.

Misc, I think the Tris sudden death lynch was kind of weird, I know I was in the wagon but Idk why it gained so much traction.

Sorry for being late, I worked on this inbetween classes.
I read this post 3 times.

1st read through - Does he townread everyone?
2nd read though - Is he scum with A50?
3rd read through - Both?

Result: ???
To be fair, he doesn't really townread me. But he finds it odd I don't see him really as scummy? Like that... that really stands out to me. I don't like it one bit to be honest. When someone townreads me and I'm town, I don't question it one bit. I mean, why would I? Honestly, no matter where I lay, I only question when someone scumreads me cause I want to know what I'm doing to give that vibe off. So this is a bit jolting and quite honestly I'm thinking about switching my vote now. He just jumped to the top of my list with Pret.
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Post Post #1374 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:04 am

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In post 1343, Pretentious wrote:
In post 1342, bob3141 wrote:
In post 975, Pretentious wrote:Ben, A50, Skitter team likely.

A quick question. Why was your first response when skitter lolhammered that they were a scum team. Tris hadnt fliped yet nor claimed her role post hammer.


If you believed so weakly that tris was scum that a single vote from another player would result in you removing her from you belive scum team. Its not liek you hadnt been pushign a tris lynch for soem time.

I remember all teh times you were saying that tris was doing her scum game.
If skitter was scum, then I caught her, if skitter was town, she got a potential reason to be nightkilled.


RCE probably knew I was going to jailkeep him, not Skitter, so it was a safe kill.

The fact RCE didn’t even comment on the majority of my analysis today is why he’s likely scum.

Ben, RCEnigma, Salad, replace one with DDL/Skellen/A50 is a solve.

If I’m wrong on one of the main three, it’s likely salad.

But why was your first response to assume tris must be town after skitters hammer.

You had been pushing a case that tris was doing her scum game for few days. Why think she was town before her flip or her revealing her role in twlight

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