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Post Post #3900 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:30 am

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In post 3898, Cliff Booth wrote:Here's what important and I don't give a shit who believes me or not but let it be known.
I am TOWN
I am a LOYAL FRUIT VENDOR
Billy is TOWN barring very unlikely scenarios that could influence this
RD LIED about there being no loyal modifiers

Is the unlikely scenario someone else (presumably scum based on this next part of the sentence) giving me fruit and not saying anything. Because absent that, what other scenario explains me getting fruit? Or a scum watcher? I cant think of anything else.
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Post Post #3901 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:39 am

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In post 3897, Cliff Booth wrote:
In post 3893, profii wrote:If you are a loyal fruit vendor he is flipping scum

Past that it's all just paranoia
he claimed at least 10 roles this game. at least 4 different variations near the end. he could be ascetic.
he could have been jailed/rolestopped night 1
i could have been jailed/roleblocked night 1
there are other weird things that could affect it
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I thought about this and if that happened by scum, shit, they got lucky. If that happened by town and they kept their mouth shut for almost 24 hours then they are hurting town by not even softing that.

Oh and I realize I got the role wrong last time, that should have been a voyeur on me not a watcher.
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Post Post #3902 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:43 am

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Yeah, the RD thing is interesting.

If JJD flips red Rick is primary target tomorrow.

If JJD flips green then Cliff is primary suspect tomorrow.
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Post Post #3903 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:21 pm

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In post 3899, Billy Pilgrim wrote:JJD missed my crumb, and it was a pretty big one for someone with his aptitude for crumbspotting to miss.
Who the fuck looks for crumbs on D3? If I didn't give you fruit I'm not interested in your crumbs today. I targeted bob and that's where I had my attention to see if he hints he received anything at all.

But you guys keep on f***ing yourselves up the ass chasing your tails on this. Everyone's still assuming I'm flipping red despite all the evidence, and giving the real scum a way out. Someone who claims to be a Loyal Fruit Vendor, which in effect makes him an alignment Cop, when he said his role was -ve utility. Someone who believed they had a guilty and slept on it through the night (and he could have been killed and his proposed guilty would have been lost). Someone who still slept on the guilty until >I< poked him. Someone who lied about receiving Fruit from me .. after he wanted me to
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first. Someone who still didn't out his guilty AFTER I claimed, but tried to get falsely town confirmed by my claim. Only when he found out he had f***ed himself beyond remedy did he out a "guilty" on me, and you still don't see it. And then he says he could have been Jailed?? If he thought he could have, how the fuck was he so confident I was scum? Why now -after the fact- does he think of that as a possibility? Could it be because he knows I am flipping green?? No of course not, because you guys have your heads up your.. erm.. sleeves.

@Billy: I am betting this game goes EXACTLY the way the game we were scum together did. Only this time Cliff will be signaling his partners to line up for the quick hammer in broad day light (i.e. in the main thread) and town still won't see it.

And there was I wondering why some seriously good players turned into trolls and spammers and stopped caring to play the game properly. It's because the amount of stupidity has risen above any acceptable levels. Nobody plays Mafia (a game of deduction) anymore. Everybody wants to play it as a guessing game. Q: What's a 4-letter word that has a trunk but is not an elephant? A1: Hamster? A2: Crocodile! A3: Shit! It's a FOUR-LETTER WORD, so it must be SHIT! Well, guess what? The majority of you play like a 4-letter word that has a trunk but is not an elephant. (Hint it's NOT Hamster and it's NOT Crocodile)

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Post Post #3904 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:46 pm

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So I might have fucked up
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Post Post #3905 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:57 pm

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holy crap, a50.....
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Post Post #3906 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:57 pm

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I still want to know why the fuck he didn't try to get info from his 2nd night target, didn't wait for a tchill replacement to interact with, didn't wait for more people to weigh in on the situation, etc. before hammering.

Like honestly that post makes me feel really fucking nervous but at the same time the whole AtE about not "playing mafia" is incredibly hypocritical if he is just gonna hammer himself like that.
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Post Post #3907 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:09 pm

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dude I was voting for you before all this so I really don't know.

look cliff, if you really messed up and are town, coming clean is the best thing you can do now
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Post Post #3908 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:11 pm

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@Cliff you said you may have lied about something, what was it that you may have lied about?
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Post Post #3909 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:20 pm

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.....I literally just read the whole thing go down JUST now and JJD was so much more credible.
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Post Post #3910 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:20 pm

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man I'm awful, y'all play so fast and I can't keep up sometimes
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Post Post #3911 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:45 pm

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There's no point in coming clean it'll get ripped to shreds anyway.

I'd rather disclose it if he flips green
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Post Post #3912 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:07 pm

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So if he flips red you're just not gonna?
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Post Post #3913 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:22 pm

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In post 3898, Cliff Booth wrote:Here's what important and I don't give a shit who believes me or not but let it be known.
I am TOWN
I am a LOYAL FRUIT VENDOR
Billy is TOWN barring very unlikely scenarios that could influence this
RD LIED about there being no loyal modifiers
I didn’t say there was no loyal modifiers here.

I said I had ran a gambit where I claimed there were no Loyal Modifiers in a different game.
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Post Post #3914 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:22 pm

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Were*

I am not caught up at all here. I just read this page and the last page
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Post Post #3915 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:24 pm

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how would you even know that anyway

The gist of the last few pages is that we lynched jjd and Cliff is scum.
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Post Post #3916 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:27 pm

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Then why was JJD lynched? I’m reading in reverse.

In the game I did that in, I claimed I was informed there were 4 scum and no loyal modifiers.

It was kinda funny that I won that game as scum, and I was just making a callback here in this game.
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Post Post #3917 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:24 pm

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In post 3912, Carcalilly wrote:So if he flips red you're just not gonna?
if he flips red I will judge how many people actually buy into the strange bus idea before I consider it
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Post Post #3918 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:26 pm

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okay... so RD just comes in and comments on none of it and conveniently decides to read in reverse the one time I am pending his commentary
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Post Post #3919 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:26 pm

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I guess not really the one time. but the one time it
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Post Post #3920 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:42 pm

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Is this dependency part of the alt flavor or something else?
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Post Post #3921 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:55 pm

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it's not a dependency. I wanted to know his thoughts on me vs jjd. Specifically I wanted to see where he would vote but I would have at least settled for seeing what he had to say.

I also wanted to see about the "no loyal" thing but he actually explained that.
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Post Post #3922 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:01 pm

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Sorry, I’ve been busy. :/

I think i went a couple days without being on the Rick Dalton account for more than a few minutes.

My game starting up on Morality been taking my mafia time and I’ve been busy in real life.
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Post Post #3923 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:02 pm

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I have no clue where I would vote, and I think because I came in late, I’d have been biased.

I never really got pinged by JJD, and I usually can sniff his scum game out immediately.
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Post Post #3924 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:04 pm

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I don’t really understand completely what happened, but I saw a Loyal Fruit Vendor and a Disloyal Fruit Vendor which just makes me think of the time I fake claimed Disloyal Fruit Vendor and got Something Smart to claim a fruit because my scum partner was a complex fruit vendor so we outed the fact he was a PR, and he ended up being a Loyal Fruit Vendor, and I claimed his fruit even though a scum partner of mine got it and we killed him that night phase.
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