Alisae V Pine: Trees Apparently Make Good Treestumps

[Gamma Emerald]

gamma/fire/woopie/fire/dann

You said fire twice, I assume one should be krazy?

[Iconeum]

@GE, yes.

[Gamma Emerald]

K
Seems like you suspect Fire + 1 or 2 of (me + Dann + Krazy)?

[Wooper]

my ego flaring up or is it bizarre people have checked in and don't have an opinion yet

[Iconeum]

I think Krazy is town here, because I can relate to his feelings. He was being called scum for not pushing reads, which he would do as town. But this is a hard game to 'work in', and once you guys started playing with each other, you could really see Krazy get into his element. Yeah, I townread that.

GE felt more survivalistic, focusing more on not being scumread then actually scumhunting.

Dann, I don't know. His meta push on Krazy was good, but once Krazy started what should be towntelling for Dann: basicly playing the game, he wasn't reconsidering. This could very much be scum.

[Alisae]

Dann and Krazy I’m giving you to explicit permission to vote each other

[Alisae]

I think Krazy is town here, because I can relate to his feelings. He was being called scum for not pushing reads, which he would do as town. But this is a hard game to 'work in', and once you guys started playing with each other, you could really see Krazy get into his element. Yeah, I townread that.

GE felt more survivalistic, focusing more on not being scumread then actually scumhunting.

Dann, I don't know. His meta push on Krazy was good, but once Krazy started what should be towntelling for Dann: basicly playing the game, he wasn't reconsidering. This could very much be scum.

Krazy’s push is SUPER unnatural

[Iconeum]

my ego flaring up or is it bizarre people have checked in and don't have an opinion yet

i have opinions/thoughts about certain claims during massclaim, but i'm unsure if it's worth talking about. same thing with the bargains today

[Alisae]

I’m sorry to break it to you
But this is as scum as scum gets and honestly I feel ashamed of myself for not recongizing it D3

[Wooper]

I'm not sure how to really engage with that but we're backwards on Dann/Krazy. I think Krazy's sudden reemergence looks extremely agenda driven; it's pre-meditated and it's mechanically focused with sprinkles of meta and reads on gamestates which are thoroughly expired + he didn't mention at the time. It struck me as a lynch case he felt he was entitled to. I also don't understand why town!Krazy gets so indignant then just... backs off when he's called to elaborate. The pop-in has scum written all over it fmpov.

Dann like, in absence of scum!Krazy, /could/ be scum? But I actually really heavily related to his rxn, I think the case against him was kind of incredible and I don't really blame him for being absolutely baffled by it

I'd say it's t/t before s/s before town!Krazy/scum!Dann. it just didn't feel right and I don't feel like I was warlocked; I was floored by Krazy's reappearance long before Dann withdrew so we could try and talk it out

[Iconeum]

oh yeah like that

i suppose it makes sense for a scum!krazy to actually try and simulate what is expected of him when pressured.

[Iconeum]

i might be biased because i townread Krazy for his exchange with Ali earlier about gaslighting (had similar feelings, sorry Ali)

[Alisae]

oh yeah like that

i suppose it makes sense for a scum!krazy to actually try and simulate what is expected of him when pressured.

its not even that
Where did this push come from?
Like it really just seemed like Krazy did nothing until pressured to do something, and then went through Dann’s ISO to find whatever he could find and say “THAT’S A SCUMPOST”

[Alisae]

Like I don’t see how you can look at these posts Krazy is pushing out and say confidently “Oh yeah, that’s town for sho”

[Alisae]

Like honestly
The fact that Krazy’s ONLY read is Dannflor
The ONLY read he’s even thought to speak about
That is a red flag

[Wooper]

He does have other reads. I just think they've formed unnaturally :/

[Wooper]

I actually liked Dann's reach out to me about 5 hrs ago too
is that more likely trying to finish his pocket attempt before its too late or actually earnest?
probably leaning latter atm

[Alisae]

Dann is playing this exceptionally well

[Wooper]

He's become so headfucky but not in a way that looks like he's trying to to obfuscate intent, actually if anything I feel bad for not reaching back out to him a lot earlier? :/

[Wooper]

But not in a way that feels like AtE. There's just a dialogue there which I regret not having earlier.

I AM ANGRY

[Alisae]

I’m going to bed

[Wooper]

seeya tomorrow.

[Iconeum]

Like I don’t see how you can look at these posts Krazy is pushing out and say confidently “Oh yeah, that’s town for sho”

i don't townread his push

but

i questioned dann's not reconsidering when Krazy was doing what he should be doing according to dann

and I don't think scum is gonna start fighting against Ali for 'gaslighting' when that helps scum more then town

i know, unpopular opinion and all but i'm not here to sheep you blindly

[Wooper]

I don't have a tonne to say wrt gaslighting :c I think it could come from either alignment esp with krazzy

[Wooper]

I just had a dirty thought. I'll sleep on it tonight.