Mini 2097 - Make Me Regret This Game Over

[eth0s]

I'm not sure how mastina is scum other than "mastina is possibly a deepwolf so we have to be paranoid"

did you even read my jjh&mastina case

[TemporalLich]

I'm not sure how mastina is scum other than "mastina is possibly a deepwolf so we have to be paranoid"

did you even read my jjh&mastina case

no

[eth0s]

I'd love to talk you off of this but you keep coming back with weird shit, and you're right that nothing either me or mastina can say is likely to convince you, because you are excessively inclined to place additional value on your own logic and conclusions

I mean your stance on both lynches so far has either been wrong town or scum motivated so I'm not sure what your point is

Like, the SoaS and TD deaths make sense because I searched for a reason that they would make sense.

Your reasoning for SoaS relies on a traitor theory that you can't even find any crumbs from Elbirn to support

You have no idea what is going through Chemist's head when he looks at my role because you don't know what my role is.

Have you even tried to put yourself in my shoes? I know it's hard as scum to do so but you act like my thoughts on why keeping you alive is a bad idea has no merit.

You type out a lot of words and construct a large post that is a web of assumptions you can't make, and I feel like you've been effectively unphased by a lot of different very valid counterarguments.
This is, ideally, a cooperative game. I think we're on the same team. I might want to meta-dive you in a bit because you are somehow legitimately concerning me with things I don't think should be in anyone's scumrange, due to how vehemently you are disagreeing with me on logic that doesn't stand.

If you're actually town then obviously we approach the game differently. I steered the wagon on elements and you veered off of it in a very sketchy manner. I know this is kind of an asshole thing to say since you've already acknowledged all of this but that doesn't make it any less true.

[eth0s]

I'm not sure how mastina is scum other than "mastina is possibly a deepwolf so we have to be paranoid"

did you even read my jjh&mastina case

no

okay

1916

Read it and tell me your thoughts or else I am seeing this through.
VOTE: elements
I've given you the benefit of the doubt when I really don't have to so I don't think it's fair for you to try and shoot down my cases when you don't even fucking read them

[eth0s]

It's the consistency of it all that explains everything, tbh

You could have been scum because you somehow ended up on the right side of the Korina lynch with reasoning that I would still shoot down with hindsight, and you could feasibly have been scum bussing elements though that's less likely, but you're not because the reason we ended up on opposite sides there is that our playstyles are extremely different, and that has been consistently visible. And I don't think anyone could fake that kind of thing throughout the whole of a game

Reasoning that you would shoot down with hindsight? I literally gave the town a fucking alternative to deal with the situation where we statistically SHOULD HAVE HAD AN ADVANTAGE regardless of whether korina was scum or town.

"our playstyles are extremely different, and that has been consistently visible. And I don't think anyone could fake that kind of thing throughout the whole of a game"

I don't even get how this implies that I'm town because if I have a truly different playstyle than you it wouldn't matter what my alignment is and I wouldn't have to fake anything. Unless I'm misunderstanding what you said it just looks like you're trying to appeal to my emotion or at the very least manipulate me with bad logic

[eth0s]

Damn I think I found the game which explains why we went about the two lynches so differently

What game?

[eth0s]

The inventor is clearly not supposed to increase scum power or he wouldn't have given all his abilities to Chemist

I honestly want to comment on this one but it's gonna start a whole stupid argument that I don't want to get into so how about someone else tells me what's wrong with this post

[eth0s]

New line of inquiry:

2037 is an awful post but TL seems to take something from it

would a copscetic block a bloodhound result too? if not then 2037 could actually bring forth an important discussion.

[TemporalLich]

you know elements died and flipped red right?

anyway I'll give my thoughts:

so jjh is likely town because he wouldn't make the SoaS nightkill, instead preferring to kill mastina... hmm. Yeah you yourself say it is WIFOM so let's leave it at that...

though mastina being scum is heavily implicated by jjh scum because a SoaS nightkill would make sense...

that case on mastina!scum seems entirely contingent on jjh!scum, so you realise if jjh flips green that vindicates mastina then?

[eth0s]

It is infuriating me to do so because I am growing more confident that you're just being obtuse on purpose here, but I'm gonna try to actually engage with you here

okay this actually looks like it could be a town response

[TemporalLich]

okay, but you do realize the case you gave me and the fact you think jjh is town means mastina is town right?

[TemporalLich]

VOTE: Elbirn

probably the best vote assuming jjh!town

[eth0s]

half of what you just said is literally restating things I have said in the last 10 pages and the other half makes me think you didn't even read the post

I'm so confused. Like honestly WHAT ARE YOU SAYING

[eth0s]

where the

fuck

did I say that I think jjh is town

[eth0s]

UNVOTE:

[eth0s]

Like I don't even know. If anyone else was saying what you're saying I would just think they're scum trying to misrep me but you're you and you did this same shit in crosswords and I don't fucking understand what's going through your head

[TemporalLich]

It is infuriating me to do so because I am growing more confident that you're just being obtuse on purpose here, but I'm gonna try to actually engage with you here

okay this actually looks like it could be a town response

this is where I thought you said jjh was town

[TemporalLich]

and my thoughts on your case are that your case implicates jjh/mastina are scum together, nothing about mastina being scum on her own

[eth0s]

and my thoughts on your case are that your case implicates jjh/mastina are scum together, nothing about mastina being scum on her own

yes. That's true. But not even close to the analysis I was hoping you'd give. I'm not going to pull your teeth for something better though

and no I said it looked like a towny response and that's just a factor into everything I've seen from him this game. That doesn't mean I think he is town...

[TemporalLich]

yeah, my analysis on your case is closer to jjh/mastina scum being a biconditional rather than a logical disjunction

[Elbirn]

The inventor is clearly not supposed to increase scum power or he wouldn't have given all his abilities to Chemist

I honestly want to comment on this one but it's gonna start a whole stupid argument that I don't want to get into so how about someone else tells me what's wrong with this post

I tried to analyze this before but my brain broke and I stopped caring

Tldr theres some weird circular logic here where JJ is assuming the intent of the setup design is such that a hypothetical scum inventor is supposed to power up town based on what TL chose to do with the role, but that doesnt logically follow and assumes the alignments of two players as a reason for one of those two being scum

If that made any sense which it didnt

If I were a bad person I'd also throw out some pedantic shit about how "oh he KNOWS chemist is town based on that post" but I'm not so I won't. But I feel like that might be the point you wanted made so there

[jjh927]

Fuck why did your scumgame have to be good now I have to think again

the one with fugitive?

Yeah rainforest
Is that an anomaly?

Damn I think I found the game which explains why we went about the two lynches so differently

What game?

Newbie 1844

[jjh927]

I'm not sure how mastina is scum other than "mastina is possibly a deepwolf so we have to be paranoid"

did you even read my jjh&mastina case

no

okay

1916

Read it and tell me your thoughts or else I am seeing this through.
VOTE: elements
I've given you the benefit of the doubt when I really don't have to so I don't think it's fair for you to try and shoot down my cases when you don't even fucking read them

Who were you actually trying to vote here

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