I was not actually aware we even had a deadline until MoS prolonged it by one week. I personally think it's too short for this kind of game, but well - we'll have to deal with it.petroleumjelly wrote: This game is ridiculous. Not a single person has bothered to address my argument with ABR concerning Fonz? The only thing I see is a vague inference from TDC. It's practically the onlyrealthing that's happened in the whole game. We have a deadline in 9 days and you're all sitting around role-playing instead of hunting for scum.
I had previously asked:I wrote:Look at this guy,she points to Fylbrigg, why is he giving Hiram the evil eye? Hasn't Hiram asked Doron the same thing I had asked?
Which I think, does the same thing you accuse Fonz of: Trying to find out whether Selande's accusation was a quirk of the character (which I thought it was and which as I understand Selande's answer is the case) or genuine suspicion (for whatever reason aka possible soft claim). If he was role fishing, why wasn't I?I wrote:How do you figure that he is the traitor.. and what does he want to do? Do you happen to know him?
Fair enough.petroleumjelly wrote:The best reasons I can think as to why I pursued The Fonz over you are (a) The Fonz's post was more forceful (and hence more easily caught my eye), and (b) your post has an air for asking for a role-playing reason for Selande's vote, as opposed to the "hidden game-related information" reason The Fonz was pushing.
I am aware that his response will not give away his alignment, I just have no idea what he's doing there and wanted him to clarify the RP.For the record, I'm not sure I understand ABR's post either, but regardless of whether or not it makes sense flavor-wise I don't think asking about it is going to be very illuminating as to his actual alignment... which is precisely why I would rather carry arguments into "ooc" posts. Fleh.
Albert B. Rampage wrote:I was specifically told that the theme of the world is like that of lord of the rings
"Have you seen any rats lately?"
Regardless, I believe that what we write in our RP should bear some resemblance to what we're trying to convey in mafia terms. It seems to me that if you convey a random vote, and you point and yell, you can't really go beyond that for a real vote short of RPing stabbing someone repeatedly, which obviously isn't feasible.Selande wrote: Well, it was my very first vote in the game, in fact my first post after my /confirm post. Why should I hint at having information? Where could I have information from?
I resent that you call it bad roleplaying. You don't know what kind of character I try to represent, so you don't know if ti's "good" or "bad" RPing. It might be bad mafia-playing (I sitll don't see what's so bad), but IMO what I wrote was in character,
So what you're saying is, you don't think you were doing something scummy? Shocker!That's not what I tried to do and I think you're reaching here.[/ooc]
I don't really think there's any character, with the possible exception of a batshit insane one, with which it is appropriate to represent a random vote like that. Also, her representing her subsequent vote on me, which had more meaning behind it, with a lesser RP action, demonstrates my point. Also, you're ignoring the RP element ofpetroleumjelly wrote:1.)Selande made my first point for me. Since you have no clue what type of character Selande is trying to portray, calling her vote "totally out of whack" is 100% premature; you should wait until you get a feel about Selande's character before you try to insinuate somebody is somehow going "beyond" the realms of their character.
This is what I meant by you not considering thatother people may just be playing their roles, which you claim you do not understand.
Again, I didn't think she2.)You agree with me that "outing Cops is bad", but then you further say "that is precisely why soft-claiming is bad".
Now here's why forcing a player to confirm/disconfirm a "possible" soft-claim is bad.
-->a.)If theyaresoft-claiming, all you have done is make absolutely sure that the mafia know who a Cop is. Before, it wasmorethan possible (in fact quite likely) that if other players voted along with Selande nobody (except possibly you) would really have suspected Selande to have had outside information which led her to the vote she made.
]-->b.)If theyare notsoft-claiming, then their vote becomes a good deal less effective; if Selande were in fact voting for scum they may have been worried if Selande had any information, but forcing Selande to clarify only ruins that possibility.
Again, I never thought she was4.)The fact that she unvoted in the very next post is rather indicative that -- gee --she was not soft-claiming. Perhaps if you kept yourownmouth shut she might have done that regardless, and your suspicion that she was soft-claiming would have been allayed.
Here5.)Link me to the game you mention in your post. Furthermore, do you think Selande is a "newb"?
I never claimed to have received a PM6.)I am intrigued by your claim that you received a PM from MoS. Just to clarify: after you submitted your post at 10:18 am (what my forum shows), MoS read your post, sent you a PM telling you to also make a physical description, and then by 10:35 -- 17 minutes later -- you did so and were able to post it?
No, but I thought we'd moved past that stage. MoS suggested posting descriptions to 'get the ball rolling.' The ball was already rolling when i replaced in, insofar as i saw something scummy enough for legit discussion.Does this also mean you did not read MoS's in-game post asking all players to submit a physical description?
The converse is true: if you just wanted to play a plain mafia game, you could join any normal. I believe TDC is right to suggest the IC parts should be at least as big as the OOC ones, and we should convey our opinions throughPJ wrote:The "spirit" of the game is toplay mafia, not to role-play. If you want to role-play and not play mafia, please go to the mish-mash forum. I can be pretty positive that the chances of "catching" scum if the only thing everybody does is role-play would be just about none.