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fair points on the Colossi and Rams. I'd swap the two Narsets for Realms then, and would probably still go with 2nds of Angel/Teferi over Bontu/Henge. Teferi also lets you cast Gates Ablaze on EOT; I kinda forget the +1 does stuff sometimes
maybe a third Teferi if you have them tbh but idk what I'd cut - aside from a 4th Colossus just because you have enough card draw and it recurs itself, I'd imagine resolving one maybe two can close out a game.
[edit] I also have no idea how to build a Gates manabase :xIf you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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I could maybe cut Tamiyo since I haven't generated edge off of the static abilities as much as I hoped. I wanted a 4 cost card that doesn't feel totally out of place in the deck, weirdly lots of the cards that cost 4 don't feel at home in Gates.
In previous metas I've done such jank as Sphinx of Foresight, Nicol Bolas the Ravager, and Carnival//Carnage.
But maybe just not having 4's is ok.
Teferi, Time Raveler is a 4 cost planeswalker with a misprint WotC refuses to acknowledge"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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-3 Boros Guildgate
-1 (-2) Breeding Pool
+1 Stomping Ground
+3 (+4) Gateway Plaza (common)
idk how often the extra one mana hurts when the deck's already slow but I feel like the mana fixing on Plaza is better than four Boros Gates and also I don't have the motivation to check this list against Frank Karsten's thing for mana (+1 Stomping Ground is a guess so you can for-sure turn 3 Ablaze against aggro a nonzero amount of times).
[pedit] Plaza technically makes T3feri 4 mana in a roundabout way
if we're getting singleton janky, does Angel and Plaza give you enough life to run a miser Command the Dreadhorde? or Agent of Treachery (with T3feri bounce). idk if they're good; might be too slow.
Oko's +1 should be a -1 or 0 at best so maybe WotC doesn't have the best track record with 3cmc walkers lately. at least Chandra's gr8If you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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Spoiler: grixis fires, minor updatesIf you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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I played a bunch of Fae of Wishes Grixis Fires last week until I got mad enough at Simic Flash that I started playing that instead.
I started with your list and came to some of those changes in parallel 2 Bedeck instead of Angrath's rampage, shaved some Cry of the Carnarium.
I don't care if Fae of Wishes is correct, it's sooooo fun.
Wishing for Role Reversal and trading 1 loyalty Narsets for real planeswalkers is hilarious.
Planewide Celebration against red decks is hilarious."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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oh I'll definitely give it a spin once I get another Fae or two on Arena, Planewide Celebration can also win with Bolas out of nowhere
I imagine it's better in Bo1, depends how much space you dedicate to a wishboard in Bo3 though.If you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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bg adventures is probably good.
The format having no dual lands would push you towards monocolor, and then monocolor pushes you towards aggro, I think, but white is the only color with a two power one-drop in Throne of Eldraine (that monster is kind of a one mana 3/2, actually). So I would speculate that monowhite would be one of the better decks in the format. I haven't done any kind of testing to support that."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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make it cautious hope, went 1-3 at FNM"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Then you're fine. I went 0-3 at the last FNM before my most recent GP, where I got top 100 and cashed.In post 7885, popsofctown wrote:make it cautious hope, went 1-3 at FNMjdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
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and there's the Field ban
also Astrolabe in PauperIf you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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In post 7887, InflatablePie wrote:and there's the Field ban
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still tweaking Fires a bit, probably dropping my Bedeck//Bedazzle and Cry mainboard, then the sideboard needs work. Ego and Ashiok are less necessary, probably replacing with a Cry and Noxious Grasp, another Duress, then idk. could also use ~5 slots for a Wishboard and try two Fae of Wishes main. Angrath's Rampage gets slightly better main now too I suppose.
meanwhile til the ban goes through on Arena I'm pivoting to the other deck I was working on upgrading - Flash
as no Simic Flash player seems to jam the same 75, here's my take:
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In practicing online it has been really hard to pick things to take out so I think I am going to buy 4 Leyline of the Void and put the full four in the sideboard.
If I mess with the original 60 I want it to be a 0 mana unconditional coalition victory for a certain matchup"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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is it the cat oven matchup
because that one irrationally annoys meIf you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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Oh lol I am talking about Modern XD.
That might end up being a perk to owning 4 copies!
I'm going to pick a Standard deck to buy after I'm done with this Modern tournament. I might be the bad guy and play cat oven because Priest of the Forgotten Gods is such a beautiful card."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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oh whoops <_< I was thinking Grixis Fires and that it dodges Cry and I don't see the deck enough to really sideboard for it but it's a pain in the assIf you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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Yuck.
New format "Pioneer", announced the same day as a ban update.
It's meant to "fill the gap between Modern and Standard" and "provide a format where you can play your recently rotated out Standard cards".
Yeah, right, no. Modern is already that format, you can play a standard deck with T3feri and when T3feri rotates he'll be a good fit in your modern binder. Will you be able to use 20 of the cards from your Standard deck in Modern, no.
You can play a standard deck with T3feri and when T3feri rotates he'll be a good fit in your pioneer binder. Will you be able to use 20 of the cards from your Standard deck in Pioneer? The format includes flipping Kaladesh man. Kaladesh. Do you remember that format where things were so unstable and sketchy WotC pre-emptively banned a glorified Man of War?
The point of this format is to add reprint equity to mythics that wouldn't otherwise have any reprint equity, like Chandra, Torch of Defiance or whatever. I don't think they actually have an accurate prediction of which cards will get the reprint equity. But it doesn't matter. The point of this format is to tax grinders, I don't think they genuinely believe this will be an FNM format that will fire and benefit players.
If they actually wanted to do what they're pretending they want to do they'd redo extended. By their own logic, they will have to create a new eternal format after X years to fill the gap between Pioneer and Standard. Then what will be the point of Pioneer? Modern is "as old as it gets without needing Reserved List", Pioneer won't have any special qualities. And like, do they think magic is growing so rapidly that it'll be easy to support that many formats at that point?"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Pioneer's great. Modern was getting way too unwieldy, and I'm looking forward to being able to play with some of my favorite cards from previous Standards.
Meanwhile, I heard something about a B&R announcement today? The problem is that when I went to look at it, all I saw was a 3/3 Elk with no abilities.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
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I may turn out to be objectively wrong about this when the meta develops but I'm not optimistic that you'll be able to play favorite cards form previous Standards to the extent that that's different from "play previous cards from Kaladesh standards".In post 7896, hasdgfas wrote:Pioneer's great. Modern was getting way too unwieldy, and I'm looking forward to being able to play with some of my favorite cards from previous Standards.
Gatecrash-RTR-Dragon's Maze- M14 - Theros - Born of the Gods - Journey Into Nyx - M15 : Famously weak sets
Khans of Tarkir - Fate Reforged - Dragons of Tarkir : Sets dependent on good mana for their more interesting cards, and with fetches banned we don't quite have that good mana. If you play 12 shocks.dec some combination of Taylor Swiftspear, Ranumap Ruins, Goblin Chainwhirler, Exquisite Fire Craft, Searing Blood, and Eidolon of the Great Revel is going to keep you very very honest I think, and none of these sets feature painfree ways to get ETB untapped color fixing such as filterlands or fastlands. Except for that Kaladesh block has enemy fastlands which kind of speaks to me feeling like this format is a Kaladeshy format.
Battle For Zendikar, Oath of the Gatewatch : Famously weak sets
Shadows over Innistrad, Rise of the Eldrazi: These are stronger but adjacent to Kaladesh so not lots of breadth there.
Kaladesh, Aether Revolt: Mirrodin 2.0 winter
Amonkhet, Hour of Devastation, Ixalan, Rivals over Ixalan, Dominaria, Core Set 2019: weak sets for power resetting from the craziness of Kaladesh. The memorable cards, aside from Ranumap Ruins, are largely slow drops that you don't expect to survive in a large format, like The Scarab God and Glorybringer. TBF. Glorybringer maybe is just barely good enough to be playable in this eternal format and if he is that's so beautiful because he's such an honest magic card. But I am pretty worried he won't actually be playable.
Ixalan, Rivals of Ixalan, Dominaria, Core set 2019: Weak sets with the memorable cards being red-deck-wins cards that won't let interesting sets like Fate Reforged or Rise of Eldrazi do cool slow stuff and not offering cool stuff of their own.
Everything after that: is standard right now.
I will say, aside from the qualifier I might be totally wrong- "a format where we can jam broken kaladesh standard cards" isn't necessarily bad in and of itself. Like I enjoyed broken Kaladesh gameplay. What I -didn't- enjoy was the iterative process of "preorder this card" "WotC banned the card you preordered haha" which kind of seems like it might be around the alley for this format, starting with the question of whether Saheeli/Felidar is going to be considered a pillar of the format or an early ban from it, and then possibly several iterations after that. If I'm supposed to be the excited about the format four banlists from now and fours steps of "the next most broken thing" well, maybe, we'll see, it might be cool. Some formats have trouble finding an equilibrium point where they ban the most broken thing and BAM everything left is diverse. Some don't. I don't know why I should be excited immediately. But since -ptqs- are being -scheduled- -immediately- that's what makes me have a grievance. If the announcement was "we're going to figure this format out for a year on mtgo, then start doing ptqs for it" I would have been cool with it. As it stands it looks really rushed.
Lolhascow wrote: Meanwhile, I heard something about a B&R announcement today? The problem is that when I went to look at it, all I saw was a 3/3 Elk with no abilities.
Man. I respect pushing with the pongify design space. Because Pongify hasn't ever been tier 1.
But why does Oko's loyalty read like someone threw three d6's and locked in the result as the loyalty of the planeswalker?"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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I think there’s a lot to be excited about from the premise of pioneer. Modern is long past being a format where the fundamental turn is turn 4, but pioneer has the potential to fill in that gap. I agree that the early months are going to be rocky. I’m not especially excited to pick up paper cards for the PTQ season only to have them banned. But I’m sure there are deck builders out there who will absolutely thrive on trying to get as many things banned as possible. If when things are all said and done we end up with a recreation of the ~5 year period than made modern insanely popular, this will have been a huge success."To hide a tree, use a forest" -Ninja Boy Hideo-
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A format with a fundamental turn of four sounds rather Marvelous"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
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