Micro 895: Think Twice (Thanks for Playing!)

[eth0s]

tris is my null read but my gut leans scum on that overall

[eth0s]

tris is my null read but my gut leans scum on that overall

Disregard this completely. I thought this was similar to scum!tris play in micro 883 but it is actually like polar opposite I think.

For context that is my only game with her before this one (I think)

[eth0s]

She can be town for now too. But I would like more activity from her as well. Now that we are all here and at least posted some sort of opinions I'd like to know if anything particularly sticks out to them so far.

I don't think a read list is necessarily needed but any perceived meta changes/similarities, valid/invalid points, basically just anything to help form reads and get the ball rolling would be nice.

[eth0s]

She can be town for now too. But I would like more

readable content

from her as well.

EBWOP

[tris]

Quickhammering is also equal to getting insta-lynched in Day 2 regardless of flips so no /funsies

idk not a huge fan of this post and then later unvoting saudade while still calling him out

if someone hammered THAT early in the game i think the flip would actually have been pretty good for reading the hammerer. Why would scum lynch their own buddy that early on?

But, on the other hand, if town quickhammers town there, they'll probably get lynched the next day, and we'll lose. Kind of like what happened in the game we were in together.

[/quote]As far as the tinfoil idea that pops into my mind of a volpe/saudade team goes, I wouldnt think goon!volpe would even put gf!saudade to L-1.[/quote]
not even with a warning not to hammer?

Aside from this paranoid situation I think volpe seems town in a vacuum. And saudade can be town for now until I figure out what the big deal about him is.

why does he get to be town rather than null?

Not loving elements so far.

why's that?
in my case, i like how he's approached his read on me so far

No one should particularly love me either since I have one real post and it revolves around tinfoil. So I'll give elements the benefit of the doubt since I don't really feel much to respond to either.

However I want him to keep true to 116 rather than just wait around to "be impressed" I guess you could say.

VOTE: elements

didn't he follow up on that in 119?

tris is my null read but my gut leans scum on that overall

Disregard this completely. I thought this was similar to scum!tris play in micro 883 but it is actually like polar opposite I think.

For context that is my only game with her before this one (I think)

what was that thing? unless you're holding it back to try to continue to read me.

She can be town for now too. But I would like more activity from her as well. Now that we are all here and at least posted some sort of opinions I'd like to know if anything particularly sticks out to them so far.

I don't think a read list is necessarily needed but any perceived meta changes/similarities, valid/invalid points, basically just anything to help form reads and get the ball rolling would be nice.

now, that you've allowed 3 people to be town, which do you think is actually scum?

[tris]

see look elements! i'm asking questions!

[tris]

I don't know what to think about Saudade yet at all

[Volpe14]

I much much much much prefer being town.

Gun to your head, one main difference between your town vs scum play?

Like I said, if you lie I'm gonna find out?

I'm thinking Saudade is town despite the horrible formatting of the maths facts. Who wants the last spot?

Why Saudade town?

That feels like a fairly easy pet town read

Do you have experience with him?

Is there such a thing as a benevolent, military dictator?

*nods*

Nice to meet you?

eth0s is either the most transparent player in the game or i can't read him at this current time

Big mood

if someone hammered THAT early in the game i think the flip would actually have been pretty good for reading the hammerer. Why would scum lynch their own buddy that early on?

Why are you assuming that Saudade flips scum as a fact?

Also, what if he flips town and someone claims "hehe funsies" or "didn't see it?". Maybe even Saudade, if town, would lolhammer himself to prove he is town in a troll. You can't guarantee that people wouldn't go for the "I don't think scum lolhammers here", or even guarantee that the hammerer is scum.

I played a micro some time ago, and there was a sudden lolhammer, on town, from town. I loved it there since I was scum but I don't want to entertain the idea of happening here.

[Volpe14]

I know you assuming Saudade as scum in good-faith could just be read as you going in hypothetical theories, but you don't seem to ever stop considering Saudade as scum, and Saudade flipping scum incriminates me is the first thing you think about. I feel as if you're trying to draw associative between Saudade v me when it doesn't exist?

I don't like it at all when by random odds Saudade has a 50% chance of being scum from my pov.

[tris]

I much much much much prefer being town.

Gun to your head, one main difference between your town vs scum play?

I think when I'm town, i'm more likely to just do things or state things without justifying it. i'm more direct with my statements. particularly in the later game. i'm not sure if that's entirely accurate, but something along those lines. i don't know if i'm describing it properly. i think i generally tend to be a mess as scum in the late game.

I played a micro some time ago, and there was a sudden lolhammer, on town, from town. I loved it there since I was scum but I don't want to entertain the idea of happening here.

this is exactly what happened in the game me and ethos played in together. i was scum there, so that worked out great.

[eth0s]

Aside from this paranoid situation I think volpe seems town in a vacuum. And saudade can be town for now until I figure out what the big deal about him is.

why does he get to be town rather than null?

which one

[Elements]

Aside from this paranoid situation I think volpe seems town in a vacuum. And saudade can be town for now until I figure out what the big deal about him is.

why does he get to be town rather than null?

which one

obviously saudade

[tris]

Aside from this paranoid situation I think volpe seems town in a vacuum. And saudade can be town for now until I figure out what the big deal about him is.

why does he get to be town rather than null?

which one

obviously saudade

[Elements]

No one should particularly love me either since I have one real post and it revolves around tinfoil. So I'll give elements the benefit of the doubt since I don't really feel much to respond to either.

However I want him to keep true to 116 rather than just wait around to "be impressed" I guess you could say.

VOTE: elements

didn't he follow up on that in 119?

What tris said. It was only a quick flick through to see if your post quantity and/or size changes between your town and scum games given your first few posts were short and sporadic

[eth0s]

I know you assuming Saudade as scum in good-faith could just be read as you going in hypothetical theories, but you don't seem to ever stop considering Saudade as scum, and Saudade flipping scum incriminates me is the first thing you think about. I feel as if you're trying to draw associative between Saudade v me when it doesn't exist?

I don't like it at all when by random odds Saudade has a 50% chance of being scum from my pov.

I could have worded it a bit better. I'm saying if he

did

flip scum then why the hell would a buddy do it so early on? And your bolded question in 132 would only incriminate me if he and I are a team. If he and I are a team then why would I go through all of the trouble to explain why I don't think a quickhammerer would be his scummate there? If that were my angle I would have quickhammered him.

So your "don't like it at all" is just you reading too far into it. I get where you're coming from though. Not even in an AI way. As both truthful town and lying scum I have pointed out these "why did you just assume that person to be x" to form or fake a read.

Although to be honest I now realize I meant to add another point after the whole "why would scum lynch their buddy early on" bringing about the perspective that, yeah, a townflip there means the hammerer is probably scum. And in that case I would assume it's the goon with a deepwolf gf

[eth0s]

i don't know what you mean by transparent in this context?

As in obviously town or scum.
It was more of a post directed at eth0s.
Having skimmed a few pages I have discovered he is not.

@tris and elements

oh. I misread this. I thought he was talking about this game having not read it yet or something.

Tbh I would call myself the opposite of a transparent player. And not because I'm really good at appearing town when I'm scum. More because I'm just bad at this game as either alignment

[eth0s]

saudade gets to be town rather than null because I am saying that I think he's town because of his approach the game so far. Yet people were making a big deal about him on page one so I'm thinking there is some meta about him that I don't yet know and will find out

[Chemist1422]

Votecount v1.2

Saudade (1)

- tris

tris (1)

- Volpe14

Elements (1)

- eth0s

Not Voting (2) - Saudade, Elements

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[eth0s]

I don't think tris and elements are the same alignment

[eth0s]

at the VERY LEAST they're not the scum team me thinks. gonna stew on it for a bit

[eth0s]

can someone ask me a gun to my head question? I've never had that before

[eth0s]

I want to feel the steel against my skull

[tris]

now, that you've allowed 3 people to be town, which do you think is actually scum?

gun to your head

[eth0s]

saudade would be my scum guess because volpe is townier than him in a vacuum

you stay town for pretty much just meta reasons, but your questions towards me were decent too

[eth0s]

that one doesn't count since it's actually a question I forgot about. New question gun to my head go