[Game Over] Newbie 1960 - Deathcars

[Blatant Scum]

Quantifiable Conundrum (L-3)

: NaCl, Farkran

Blatant Scum (L-4)

: SausasaurusRex

Quantifiable Conundrum, Jocus Aevorum, emps,
Selynee, Blatant Scum

[Jocus Aevorum]

If my slot were cop/ tracker, I would visit Rex and the result would be innocent/ not visited eth0s.
Not claiming anything.

too much hypo detail, will expose PRs by POE

[SausasaurusRex]

Remember, I said not to make any hasty assumptions!

Anyway, the reason I think you are scum is because you are completely aggressive. You have had multiple opportunities to act like how people expect you to act as town, but refuse to. But why would you want to act as expected? Let’s go through the logic:

If you’re scum:
If you act like town, people are less likely to think you’re scum, so you won’t get lynched.

If you’re town:
If you act like town, people are less likely to think you’re scum, so you won’t get lynched.

Despite this, you continue to play aggressively, saying personal insults I’d rather not repeat. When warned by the moderator, you almost completely ignore her, and tell Farkran to stop doing it, even though she’s very clearly referring to you. At this point, I’m surprised you aren’t banned, especially if you always play like this.

Interesting.
Now, where is the scummy behaviour?

oh yeah i dont like this either scum is more about dodging the vote and survivng longer than town and town is about finding scum, not just acting like town to try not to get lynched

I do neither.
Does it make me town or scum?

Neither. I was annoyed with how Robbnva was acting, he was being aggressive and it wasn’t making me want to play with him. I wasn’t attempting to make any real point, but just to make him play less rudely. It wasn’t anything to do with his alignment.

In addition, UNVOTE:

[emps]

"it wasnt anything to do with his alignment" "i think you are scum"

mhm sure whatever you say

VOTE: rex

[SausasaurusRex]

I just said that because I wanted him to stop being mean. It wasn’t truthful.

[SausasaurusRex]

Well damn. I’ve just realised that post makes me seem like a petulant child.

[Farkran]

@emps you have yet not given a clear read on QC.

Spoiler: i see this

lmao what i dont tr qc and i think ive made myself pretty clear on that before

i dont like the way qc was like complaining abt there not being much content and like not doing anything abt it. like i legit just cased rex, and that wouldve been reeeeeaaaaally hard to miss, and he tells me to "convince him" into voting rex like I had a 15 post thing on him and you like pretend it doesnt exist

hey robb whats iioA mean

also imo qc's whole "convince me to vote with you" post feels very LAMISTy tbh

wait what is that read list and why is qc a townread and why is flippynips a scumlean and why is rex only null and why isnt sely like at least a townlean wat

Spoiler: then this

Jocus Aevorum (L-2)

: Selynee, NaCl, Quantifiable
Conundrum

Emperor flippyNips (L-3)

: Robbnva, Jocus Aevorum

emps (L-4)

: eth0s

SausasaurusRex (L-4)

: emps

Emperor flippyNips, SausasaurusRex

also, the tone in qc's posts (mostly the ones directed towards/talking to robb) is good imo

idk what specifically but i like the tone in those posts

idk im kinda townleaning him after reading his iso

Oh shit, I quoted a bunch of irrelevant posts again. I was using it like a clipboard, sorry.

this is like kinda towny tho (using the multiquote as a clipboard sort of)

What happened inbetween that made you change your mind? You said you read your ISO - what did you find in there that made you think he's town? "gut" is not going to work as an answer - you had him as scumlean for a large part of the game yet you never thought about voting him, unlike your other scumreads, then you suddenly townlean him. Can you explain?

[Farkran]

You too @QC, your read of emps is not clear at all. I already pointed out that your progression does not make a lot of sense until you explain it, i think now it is time to provide some reasoning.

[Farkran]

You said you read your ISO

ebwop, HIS iso

[emps]

@emps you have yet not given a clear read on QC.

Spoiler: i see this

lmao what i dont tr qc and i think ive made myself pretty clear on that before

i dont like the way qc was like complaining abt there not being much content and like not doing anything abt it. like i legit just cased rex, and that wouldve been reeeeeaaaaally hard to miss, and he tells me to "convince him" into voting rex like I had a 15 post thing on him and you like pretend it doesnt exist

hey robb whats iioA mean

also imo qc's whole "convince me to vote with you" post feels very LAMISTy tbh

wait what is that read list and why is qc a townread and why is flippynips a scumlean and why is rex only null and why isnt sely like at least a townlean wat

Spoiler: then this

Jocus Aevorum (L-2)

: Selynee, NaCl, Quantifiable
Conundrum

Emperor flippyNips (L-3)

: Robbnva, Jocus Aevorum

emps (L-4)

: eth0s

SausasaurusRex (L-4)

: emps

Emperor flippyNips, SausasaurusRex

also, the tone in qc's posts (mostly the ones directed towards/talking to robb) is good imo

idk what specifically but i like the tone in those posts

idk im kinda townleaning him after reading his iso

Oh shit, I quoted a bunch of irrelevant posts again. I was using it like a clipboard, sorry.

this is like kinda towny tho (using the multiquote as a clipboard sort of)

What happened inbetween that made you change your mind? You said you read your ISO - what did you find in there that made you think he's town? "gut" is not going to work as an answer - you had him as scumlean for a large part of the game yet you never thought about voting him, unlike your other scumreads, then you suddenly townlean him. Can you explain?

i quoted multiple posts from his iso before posting 626. how tf did you not see those

[Farkran]

618 to 625? I read those. I didn't find anything that would justify a reconsideration from scumlean to townlean though. Tone and gut feeling aren't something you gain after an ISO read - you either have them as a first impression or you don't - if you change your mind after reading an ISO you must have noticed something of value. Can you lead me to understand what was it? Because in the posts you mentioned i can only see stuff like "decent but lamisty", nothing that would explain a serious reconsideration of the slot.

I'm also waiting on QC to answer the same question though.

[Quantifiable Conundrum]

@Quantifiable Conundrum, are you saying you think Farkran is a PR?

No, why would I disclose that here?

[Quantifiable Conundrum]

I'm willing to put Robb down to scumleaning due to his behavior near the deadline, as Farkran pointed out. That was very anti town play.

he said he would be on vla and stuff so attacking him for that is kinda dirty tbh

but like the flippynips wagon was like definetly not going through at all so like not sure what he was doing voting him

But why wouldn't someone just arrange to get someone else to hop off so that they could hop on if they knew about this scheduling issue? That seems like a pretty easy thing to do, and I would be be happy to do it for example.

[Quantifiable Conundrum]

Oh shit, I quoted a bunch of irrelevant posts again. I was using it like a clipboard, sorry.

this is like kinda towny tho (using the multiquote as a clipboard sort of)

You too @QC, your read of emps is not clear at all. I already pointed out that your progression does not make a lot of sense until you explain it, i think now it is time to provide some reasoning.

[Quantifiable Conundrum]

Disagree on the clipboard thing lol.

I'll explain my emps reasoning later today.

[NaCl]

I'm VT. Probably going to die, so read list:

Town: QC, eth0s, Robb
Town-lean: Salt
Null: Rex, emps, Selynee
Scum(-lean): clone

I still disagree with you on Selynee.
But could you explain why emps is so low down on your list? I keep reconsidering between voting him and voting QC, and I'd like a bit of help coming to a decision.


Also, emps, I'm really not that sold on Rex anymore. I just don't really see who could be his partner.
I wouldn't let him be this scummy, I know you wouldn't let him be this scummy.
I don't think Flippynips or Selynee would either.

Which leaves...Jocus, BS/Robbnva, and QC. And I guess those are possible, but I still think the first two are town independently. So I'm not really seeing a scumteam with Rex.

[NaCl]

Why are there so few people voting?

[Farkran]

@jocus
@selynee

Do you have any reason for not voting right now?

I got selynee's reasoning about qc. What about emps? Are you scumreading anyone?

[Jocus Aevorum]

@jocus
@selynee

Do you have any reason for not voting right now?

I got selynee's reasoning about qc. What about emps? Are you scumreading anyone?

OK
VOTE: Farkran[/vote

[Jocus Aevorum]

VOTE: Farkran

[Farkran]

Reason?

[NaCl]

Jocus, I think you're town, but I'm not understanding like 80% of your reasons.

Could you please stop voting people without an explanation and try to convince people on your reads?

[Selynee]

Because TBH, I am in quite murky waters right now.

Rex is Rex. Backpedals A LOT. Which isn't really helped by somewhat SR-ing someone without really SR-ing them sort of thing. But find it quite doubtful that mafia-him would pick Robbnva there to try to scumread unless they are the exact mafia team.

Jocus- said everything about him. I am trying to reconsider here because it is clear some of you see it quite differently, but yeah, he'd win the ignoring most questions award.

QC- Not a fan on his progression. Putting Robbnva as "townish" then having him as a lynch candidate given that not much has changed in his play style during that time. Neither on Rex to be fair, as they had him as "townish", later voted on a case presented by someone they slightly scumread. Posting at EOD, despite apparently not opposing any viable wagon is something, but not enough to give them too many town points. So I'm interested in their thoughts on emps.

[Jocus Aevorum]

You need to write an essay to explain every sentence you write, then you need an essay to explain your essay

Nice reaction Farkran, test successful

[SausasaurusRex]

@Selynee, what did you mean when you say “SR-ing someone”?