"oh wow man hes scum look he went from rvs mode to not rvs mode when it stopped being rvs"In post 818, Jocus Aevorum wrote:And because his style changed mid-day to an almost opposite serious one.In post 813, Selynee wrote:Jocus said he was suspicious of Emperor because he tried to create a "lighthearted atmosphere".
Current VC is missing this vote, i think. QC never unvoted. Also he isn't listed in the "not voting" part so at least *something* is off in the VCIn post 564, Quantifiable Conundrum wrote:I think it's Jocus. That post is terrible and looks super scummy. He hasn't come forward to explain it at all, which is part of what makes it look so scummy to me.
VOTE: Jocus
Jocus is now at L-1, give him guys.
There are mainly 3 reasons for scum to kill a specific target over a random choice:In post 815, Quantifiable Conundrum wrote: Why would I kill Ethos after having a huge public argument with him? That doesn't make sense, it's too obvious. And he thought I was pretty scummy too, so I would be pushing a lynch against myself? Not sure what your logic here is but it doesn't add up.
Didn't see anything PR-ish about ethos. If anything, i was SLing him in my first readthrough - end of d1 behavior points at scum!SE, i would have pushed him for a mislynch rather than nk, unless i was being threatened by the slot's reads.In post 829, Selynee wrote: Farkran, you were good at picking PR softclaims. You really think this is not the case here?
I actually think this is why he got nk'ed. In this case, it wasn't really about his play. If they took it as a tracker/cop softclaim, I doubt mafia would risk not killing here.In post 560, eth0s wrote:I gotta be honest I wish I was contributing more but this is a really hard game for me to get into. Depending on how the flip goes theres someone I plan on checking out more thoroughly before day 2.
Not sure I'll really be able to engage myself before then
This is actually a good point, and i did miss it. A bit audacious for a softclaim, but makes a lot of sense as scum that you'd read that as a PR threat. What slot would you think felt the most threatened?In post 832, Selynee wrote:I actually think this is why he got nk'ed. In this case, it wasn't really about his play. If they took it as a tracker/cop softclaim, I doubt mafia would risk not killing here.In post 560, eth0s wrote:I gotta be honest I wish I was contributing more but this is a really hard game for me to get into. Depending on how the flip goes theres someone I plan on checking out more thoroughly before day 2.
Not sure I'll really be able to engage myself before then
Probably anyone who wasn't townreading him by the end of d1. Need to reread to confirm this.In post 834, Selynee wrote:Well, coupled with his last post, I'd say the most obvious answer is NaCL and emps. Though realistically no mafia team lets a possible cop or tracker live here. The real question would be who would this exclude (as in who couldn't see it as a PR softclaim)?
Which unfortunately amounts to no one except for maybe NaCl (632).In post 835, Farkran wrote:Probably anyone who wasn't townreading him by the end of d1. Need to reread to confirm this.In post 834, Selynee wrote:Well, coupled with his last post, I'd say the most obvious answer is NaCL and emps. Though realistically no mafia team lets a possible cop or tracker live here. The real question would be who would this exclude (as in who couldn't see it as a PR softclaim)?
He maintained "RVS mode" a couple days after RVS about ended.In post 825, emps wrote:: NaCl, FarkranQuantifiable Conundrum (L-3)
: Jocus AevorumFarkran (L-4)
: empsSausasaurusRex (L-4)
Quantifiable Conundrum, Selynee, Blatant Scum,
SausasaurusRex"oh wow man hes scum look he went from rvs mode to not rvs mode when it stopped being rvs"In post 818, Jocus Aevorum wrote:And because his style changed mid-day to an almost opposite serious one.In post 813, Selynee wrote:Jocus said he was suspicious of Emperor because he tried to create a "lighthearted atmosphere".
What's your lynchpool for today?In post 834, Selynee wrote:Well, coupled with his last post, I'd say the most obvious answer is NaCL and emps. Though realistically no mafia team lets a possible cop or tracker live here. The real question would be who would this exclude (as in who couldn't see it as a PR softclaim)?
I guess we're kinda getting close enough to the deadline, so I'll go ahead and VOTE: Emps, since at this point I think people need to start making hard stands.In post 828, Farkran wrote:There are mainly 3 reasons for scum to kill a specific target over a random choice:In post 815, Quantifiable Conundrum wrote: Why would I kill Ethos after having a huge public argument with him? That doesn't make sense, it's too obvious. And he thought I was pretty scummy too, so I would be pushing a lynch against myself? Not sure what your logic here is but it doesn't add up.
1. Target is a threat to the scum team. If a player got his reads right and is townread enough, he needs to be eliminated before he gains consensus.
2. PR hunting
3. Target is widely townread but has very bad reads. You kill this to deadsheep his reads and push a mislynch the day after.
Reading ethos ISO again i don't think i'd kill him for being PR so it's either 1 or 3 to me. I didn't see 3 happening so far, therefore i think it's 1. Emps was his highest scumread which is likely to be correct at this point. QC, you seem to agree on scum!emps as a solve, even if perhaps for different reasons. Why are you not voting him and instead opt to fencesit?
In post 833, Farkran wrote:This is actually a good point, and i did miss it. A bit audacious for a softclaim, but makes a lot of sense as scum that you'd read that as a PR threat. What slot would you think felt the most threatened?In post 832, Selynee wrote:I actually think this is why he got nk'ed. In this case, it wasn't really about his play. If they took it as a tracker/cop softclaim, I doubt mafia would risk not killing here.In post 560, eth0s wrote:I gotta be honest I wish I was contributing more but this is a really hard game for me to get into. Depending on how the flip goes theres someone I plan on checking out more thoroughly before day 2.
Not sure I'll really be able to engage myself before then
In post 834, Selynee wrote:Well, coupled with his last post, I'd say the most obvious answer is NaCL and emps. Though realistically no mafia team lets a possible cop or tracker live here. The real question would be who would this exclude (as in who couldn't see it as a PR softclaim)?
If you look through Flippy's history, you'll also see that he's just that kind of guy who likes to post gifs, and that's such a big part of his posting that I'd say it's NAI.In post 840, SausasaurusRex wrote:@Jocus Avornum I agree with you. Emperor FlippyNips continued RVS after he should have, and (if I recall correctly) was experienced enough to know better. However, Farkran almost completely erases that suspicion for me. He seems very town-like (from my low understanding of how town and scum generally act), and consistently raises good points.
I'm not pushing for a hammer or anything like that, just saying that I think we've kind of run down the evidence and it's time to move to the next stage of the day by voting.In post 843, SausasaurusRex wrote:Also, we aren’t anywhere near the deadline yet, despite what Quantifiable Conundrum just said. I think he’s pushing for a hasty lynch, but, after the lack of lynch that was day 1, perhaps it is good that he pushes this early.
839 I'm voting for Emps.In post 846, NaCl wrote:Rex, I think we're much more close to the deadline than I'd like. Especially since it feels like everyone's disagreeing a bunch.
QC, why are you not voting?
Blatant Scum, I want to talk to you, let's hear who you think is town and who's scum.