Micro 895: Think Twice (Thanks for Playing!)

[Menalque]

You can replace if you want but it's not gonna change my read.

Just because you've efforted harder than Tris in this game on average doesn't make you townier than her.

I see a clear pattern in your motivation whereas my ISOdive on Tris didn't make me feel strongly one way or the other. My gut leaned town but I felt it could go either way.

However with you I don't see any town motivation in your play

oh sweet irony

[eth0s]

can you hammer element so i can die in peace

why won't you provide anything useful to the game before you die? you're literally conftown being anti town

[Menalque]

Like why do I need a plan for post flip? It's an awkward question. Especially in this setup

If you have no thoughts whatsoever about what happens when one of them flips, you saying one of them should flip is an un-grounded statement and it's basically a random lynch. You're better then that. At this point we want the flip that gives us the most information whatever they are given if town they don't die until the next lynch so can help out. Just by saying you want one of them to flip implies you think they give the most information upon flipping, so why you'd deny this I don't know or understand.
VOTE: eth0s

are you saying you intentionally lynched town?

I would hammer tris over volpe

Volpe just really bad at the game

u think this is town!eth0s?

[Menalque]

idk why the others quoted, I only wanted 369 and 370 there

also you think tris is scummier than past me?

[eth0s]

if mena is town then he thinks he knows how to read me a lot better than he really does

but he's just playing aggro scum

[Menalque]

I am disappoint that u lied to me about the hammer tho saudade

[Menalque]

if mena is town then he thinks he knows how to read me a lot better than he really does

but he's just playing aggro scum

I mean I'm really not, and I'm p sure you've been trying to set me as a mislynch

beyond that, I'm just p confident that tris is town and I was right on her last time I played w/ her too, which makes you scum by default

[eth0s]

tris is my null read but my gut leans scum on that overall

Disregard this completely. I thought this was similar to scum!tris play in micro 883 but it is actually like polar opposite I think.

For context that is my only game with her before this one (I think)

Up until this point you had been playing a pretty damn passive game. Really making mostly joke posts or things just completely devoid of readable content. At first I incorrectly remembered that as being what you did in the miccros game. That was wrong. You played miccros by asking a lot of questions all the time. Like a LOT of questions. Almost every post at least to begin with. And a lot of those questions look pretty pointless in retrospect.

Then shortly after I made my stance on you, your play changed greatly and you start asking a bunch of questions, none of which seem all that important to me.

It feels like you just wanted to let the game state develop before really doing anything, and then once you did do something it heavily reminded me of your scum play.

There is one reason I don't feel this strongly enough to vote you, but it's somewhat conditional. I also think one of volpe/saudade need to go today anyway.

so

get the mislynch in volpe/sau

then push tris ftw D2

solid plan tbf, how's it working out for you

so you just throw the progression that I have on tris out the window and make a completely empty and baseless accusation on me rather than say anything productive at all

solid plan tbf, not gonna work out for you.

[eth0s]

eth0s your play here is so blatantly manufactured lol

rip town if we lose when you've clearly been setting the game up a v certain way since D1

also nice to see I was right when I said your positioning on tris was to show your ~*progression*~ there

how is my play here manufactured and how have I positioned the game whatsoever?

explain that even a tiny bit. My reads have progressed throughout the game and you're being opportunistic to even imply that I was setting you up for a ML after saudade. I wasn't a part of that wagon on him and elements and I have zero partner equity.

[Menalque]

I think you've pretty clearly faked an "ooh tris is scummy oh no wait I misremembered this thing LOOK EVERYONE I'M CHANGING MY TRIS READ I'm clearly showing you that tasty PROGRESSION"

the fact that you're relying on this now as a reason to TR you is more reason to be sceptical about it tbh

[Menalque]

I mean I'm obviously being productive and I'm basically out of my scummeta at this point for anyone who wants to check

I think you've deliberately set up the game with a ~*progression*~ on tris to try and get her to TR you for it because she feels like your read has shifted

then you get ele to quick hammer while volpe is on wagon, and you know that means ur gonna have to bus him today

so then you do that, count on tris to read you as town for changing you read on her, and try to get her to hammer me

it's why your "need sau/volpe to go today" thing was bad -- you were setting up around 3p lylo with tris, ele is your partner, so you needed to eliminate one of those two to leave the other as the target

[Menalque]

I mean kudos bc I do think your scum play here is better overall than MMRT and I think it was p good there

I'm just not naive enough to TR you for the same things twice when you're scum, and I think what you've done her plays exactly to your strengths

[Menalque]

I mean tbh I'd rather lynch you today bc I think ele is p obviously goon here but lynching someone other than obvscum is dumb when there's an outlier it could be tris deep wolfing and letting us TvT

[Menalque]

I just don't think that's as likely as you being scum tho

[eth0s]

the important thing for me is that i townread ethos which leaves you and volpe scum

I mean volpe play was p trash and volpe is not bad scum, which should give you some doubts there

so we're gonna need to talk about this bc I'm p sure you're town at this point and that eth0s has been setting my slot of the game losing mislynch

didn't vulpe literally claim to be obvious as scum?

And people were putting her on a pedestal early in D1 so...

It's really easy to come in and write off your slot as bad town when you're caught scum.

[Menalque]

I mean I'm not gonna town case my predecessor when I disagree with ~50% of their content but that doesn't change the fact that I'm town

[eth0s]

Elements literally hasn't mentioned Volpe one or even acknowledged her existence unless you count how he would obviously have to when saying querying me about what my plan is.

it's funny bc I'm p sure that elements spent half his time talking about TL!partner (not sure how much he talked about you tbf) in MMRT so the fact that you're angling this as being indicative of me!scum is a lol when there's meta that this literally isn't a scumtell for him

okay if that's what you think then you should be suspecting tris over me since that was his most interaction by far.

[tris]

I haven't read all this yet, but should i hammer?

[tris]

he is confirmed scum at this point since everyone has had a chance to hammer, i don't know if there's a reason i should hold off on ending the day right now.

[Menalque]

fypov yes, fmpov we should probably lynch eth0s

[Menalque]

Elements literally hasn't mentioned Volpe one or even acknowledged her existence unless you count how he would obviously have to when saying querying me about what my plan is.

it's funny bc I'm p sure that elements spent half his time talking about TL!partner (not sure how much he talked about you tbf) in MMRT so the fact that you're angling this as being indicative of me!scum is a lol when there's meta that this literally isn't a scumtell for him

okay if that's what you think then you should be suspecting tris over me since that was his most interaction by far.

I mean I think you've both been interacting with him and I don't see why I should take that as enough of a reason to override my TR on tris?

and also doesn't explain what is the more significant point which is you trying to push me/ele based on that when you know that ele, for all of his inability to hide being scum, doesn't have that particular scumtell

[tris]

VOTE: elements

[Saudade]

good luck tomorrow, thanks for having me at L-1 for long enough for scum to hammer me towns

[eth0s]

Like why do I need a plan for post flip? It's an awkward question. Especially in this setup

If you have no thoughts whatsoever about what happens when one of them flips, you saying one of them should flip is an un-grounded statement and it's basically a random lynch. You're better then that. At this point we want the flip that gives us the most information whatever they are given if town they don't die until the next lynch so can help out. Just by saying you want one of them to flip implies you think they give the most information upon flipping, so why you'd deny this I don't know or understand.
VOTE: eth0s

are you saying you intentionally lynched town?

I would hammer tris over volpe

Volpe just really bad at the game

u think this is town!eth0s?

again you just shade me instead of challenging what I said whatsoever

[Menalque]

I never would have done it saud, rip