Mini Normal 2102: Mafia à la Mode! (Game Complete)

[Pretentious]

Skellen, LUV, DDL, RCE, Bob should be the order.

I believe those are all the unclaimed?

[bob3141]

A50 if your a loyal vistor who did you visit n1 and why?

[Almost50]

I visited BEF on both nights. I wanted to confirm him as Town (and I think I did mention something about me betting the game on BEF being town sometime on D1/D2)

[benhalkum]

How convenient. Your role depends on the tracker, who died D1. And you visited BEF N1 and N2, who is not dead. But why? If your role is effectively VT now as you put it, why would you visit anyone? That means you're NOT VT if you're able to get ANY info about someone you visit as per your comment "I wanted to see if he was town". If your role relied on Tris to work at all, there would be no N2 visit and prob no N1.

VOTE: Almost50

[bob3141]

theres no 3 protectives in this game?!

Like I agree that the Jailkeeper is the odd one that sticks out here, but if we take bob's hinting at face value we can as well have 4 protectives by claims (or still 3 if one is fake), so I don't know what to make of the setup yet.

No one else has claimed JK though. You would think, that's a role that if you tried claiming falsely someone would have called them on it by now. I'm not saying I magically think Pret is town, but I am saying if there is another JK then they should def speak up.

Has Bob stated what kind of PR he has yet? It's a bit odd he's made claims that he has a PR but has been, at least how I've seen, vague about it. Unless he's calling vig or vet a soft PR. Probably vet with no vig kills yet. So a BG, vet, and JK to me at least are not out of the ordinary.

Just thinking out loud. After the last couple phases we've had, I'm a bit leery going into today. We really need to get this right.

That doesnt mean a jk even exists in this game. I think the jk simply doesnt fit.

[bob3141]

We have tracker enable claim. Although i doubt scum woudl false claim that. It doesnt remove the possibility that its a scum role.

Town lynchs the scum tracker enabler and town tracker loses his ability. Or its a town enabler thats intend to be another way from scum to eliminate the tracker

[bob3141]

The question about A50 role claim. What would be the point of scum claiming loyal visitor. Scum would either come up with a better rc or just claim VT.

[bob3141]

Guys, I don't want to spoil you party, but -so far- everything makes sense to me from a setup design/balance PoV. The designers

clearly

balanced the game around town powers trespassing on each other's turf, and thus scum could actually win through town miscommunication.

I am a Loyal Visitor. My role stopped being useful the night the Tracker died. I had been hoping for a Tracker Backup to exist to bring my role back into the game (If a Tracker successfully tracks me to someone then my target is town, but then there's a massive possibility for that to give a false result via the JK targeting me, or to give a no result if they target the Tracker)

How convenient. Your role depends on the tracker, who died D1. And you visited BEF N1 and N2, who is not dead. But why? If your role is effectively VT now as you put it, why would you visit anyone? That means you're NOT VT if you're able to get ANY info about someone you visit as per your comment "I wanted to see if he was town". If your role relied on Tris to work at all, there would be no N2 visit and prob no N1.

VOTE: Almost50

Ben did you miss this. I think A50 already explained why he still made an action n2

[Almost50]

If your role is effectively VT now as you put it, why would you visit anyone?

Are you daft or just playing dumb? I had hoped there would be a BACKUP TRACKER. Just because it doesn't look like it today it doesn't mean the thought wasn't valid on D2/N2.

[benhalkum]

Guys, I don't want to spoil you party, but -so far- everything makes sense to me from a setup design/balance PoV. The designers

clearly

balanced the game around town powers trespassing on each other's turf, and thus scum could actually win through town miscommunication.

I am a Loyal Visitor. My role stopped being useful the night the Tracker died. I had been hoping for a Tracker Backup to exist to bring my role back into the game (If a Tracker successfully tracks me to someone then my target is town, but then there's a massive possibility for that to give a false result via the JK targeting me, or to give a no result if they target the Tracker)

How convenient. Your role depends on the tracker, who died D1. And you visited BEF N1 and N2, who is not dead. But why? If your role is effectively VT now as you put it, why would you visit anyone? That means you're NOT VT if you're able to get ANY info about someone you visit as per your comment "I wanted to see if he was town". If your role relied on Tris to work at all, there would be no N2 visit and prob no N1.

VOTE: Almost50

Ben did you miss this. I think A50 already explained why he still made an action n2

Still doesn't make sense to me. If there was a tracker backup, I think they would have already come out before his supposed second night visit. I mean, yea, he has a good scenario laid out of WHY the game could be designed the way it is. But honestly not adding up for me bob.

[Almost50]

as per your comment "I wanted to see if he was town"

Learn to bloody READ.

O said I wanted to

confirm

him as town, not "to see if he was town". I was confident he was Town already, and you can ho back to my D1 posts about BEF in particular. I was hoping the Backup Tracker would Track me to BEF on N2, and I -sure as hell- didn't expect BEF to be the NK either.

So, I visited BEF on both nights in hopes the Tracker/His Backup (or a Watcher if that was the case because I didn't know which was in play) would see me targeting BEF, which would confirm BEF as Town-aligned.

[bob3141]

Pret how confident are you on your A50 read. You say you can read him very well.

So if A50 is town what does that mean on your scum read of him

[bob3141]

mm for now im think pret is are best lynch.

VOTE: Pret

I think more players have to cast votes so we know more concretely were everyone stands

[benhalkum]

as per your comment "I wanted to see if he was town"

Learn to bloody READ.

O said I wanted to

confirm

him as town, not "to see if he was town". I was confident he was Town already, and you can ho back to my D1 posts about BEF in particular. I was hoping the Backup Tracker would Track me to BEF on N2, and I -sure as hell- didn't expect BEF to be the NK either.

So, I visited BEF on both nights in hopes the Tracker/His Backup (or a Watcher if that was the case because I didn't know which was in play) would see me targeting BEF, which would confirm BEF as Town-aligned.

Fair enough for now.

UNVOTE:

But I'm still suspicious.

[benhalkum]

Although the work day is almost over, don't want to have a vote on you and something crazy happen overnight.

[Pretentious]

Pret how confident are you on your A50 read. You say you can read him very well.

So if A50 is town what does that mean on your scum read of him

I don’t think he’s town.

[Pretentious]

Pret how confident are you on your A50 read. You say you can read him very well.

So if A50 is town what does that mean on your scum read of him

I don’t think he’s town.

If A50 is town, then I’m wrong, and we probably lose the game.

VOTE: Almost50

[Pretentious]

I’m not scum...lynching me today like guarantees a town loss because the next logical lynched are A50 and RCE, and I doubt both of them are scum.

[Pretentious]

Did I just get hard pocketed by ScumBob? Is that what happened here?

[Pretentious]

How convenient. Your role depends on the tracker, who died D1. And you visited BEF N1 and N2, who is not dead. But why? If your role is effectively VT now as you put it, why would you visit anyone? That means you're NOT VT if you're able to get ANY info about someone you visit as per your comment "I wanted to see if he was town". If your role relied on Tris to work at all, there would be no N2 visit and prob no N1.

VOTE: Almost50

mm for now im think pret is are best lynch.

VOTE: Pret

I think more players have to cast votes so we know more concretely were everyone stands

The timing of this is off.

[Pretentious]

As soon as it looked like A50 was going down, Bob made the move

[Pretentious]

Bob, A50, then one of DDL/Skellen/LUV?

[Pretentious]

I think it’s most likely DDL with an off chance of Skellen.

[Pretentious]

Actually, I think ScumBob probably breaks this game open

[bob3141]

Prety clear to me that your scum now. Just needed something for you to bite onto to be sure



Ive made myself quite clear all of today that ive seen you as the best lynch to find scum. Yet you do U turn on your read on me when i simply put my vote into writing.


You even say your lynch equals a town loss. Because as you put you think next days lynch will be rce or A50. A50 who you just said you think is scum and RCE a player at times you have pushed as scum.