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[nomnomnom]

There's also Kelly in the playerlist, what's your read on them? I personally have yet to have a read on that slot, gameplay was very detached and got replaced out as well.

[Iconeum]

maybe the answer is that none of us are partnered with PM? Maybe?

Maybe chick is scum here.

multiball scum with just a single NK each night

i suppose it's

possible

they each have an odd/even NK to go between them.

But I'm going with the easiest answer here, 1 scumteam and possibly 1 cult faction without a NK.

[Iconeum]

There's also Kelly in the playerlist, what's your read on them? I personally have yet to have a read on that slot, gameplay was very detached and got replaced out as well.

yeah see I think ur beginning to catch onto my PoE.

gameplay was meh, Kelly has towned it up.

[Iconeum]

Honestly think about it, PM was very detached from this game and so is Chick, maybe they saw a bunch of us screaming at each other and what the fuck to do with Drew on the first 2 days so they took the backseat and watched us burn. That makes sense to me.

Shos was much more involved but arguably that was because of me fosing him, so there's room for doubt.

i think you are more detached from this game then Chick, so you must be scum according to this logic?

[nomnomnom]

I guess according to that logic I am scum yes

But according to my meta this is pretty much the opposite of what I do as scum so take that as you will.

Also regarding chick, maybe she had that read day 1 but it makes the fact that she didn't place a vote on PM all that more suspicious. Just saying.

[Iconeum]

it's the only defence you have rn tho...

meta

[Iconeum]

nomnom

make a PoE please

why is chick scum? or gameplay/kelly?

[nomnomnom]

I mean I'm pretty much excluding Vorkuta because of how he lead PM's lynch.

Upon further revision it's unlikely that you're scum too because of how you acted regarding PM, so you have some points there.

That leaves me with Cyrus, Kelly, Chick and shos. Kelly and Chick were not on PM's lynch and Cyrus has been acting weird all game although Cyrus is in general a really weird person so I'm unsure about him. Him acting weird is not alignment indicative I believe, so all the options are on the table. For a player like him I feel it's extremely town to have hammered PMysterious. I think I would not be so lenient with a move like this if it came from, say, Vorkuta for example, but here it's a player that plays relatively straightforward so I want to think Cyrus is town.

I think that how Shos is acting today is actually quite townie compared to previous days. I think that it would be really easy for scum him to continue to vote me considering that a lot of people think I can be scum, but he straight up unvoted me to discuss other lynch options so that's really townie. That's why I unvoted.

So that leaves me with Chick and Kelly. Chick is really detached from the game and Kelly is taking the easy path by voting me and recreating the 1v1 situation we had yesterday. I think that with this line of thinking, I kind of want to vote Kelly considering that in this gamestate I am the next mislynch on the horizon and that Kelly is taking the easy path. I know you think otherwise but considering that Gameplay's slot was shaky as hell the slot needed to town up regardless, don't you think?

That's my thoughts on the matter, feel free to comment on that.

[Iconeum]

Up until the last paragraph (Chick and Kelly) those are mirror reads to my own. I have a much stronger townread on Cyrus, but you come to the same basic conclusion.

If you flip town, I'd revisit both Kelly and Chick over shos at this time.

[nomnomnom]

So you still want to lynch me? Damn.

It's a bad lynch but I can't stop you I guess. If I'm mindmelding with you, you probably should be reconsidering your position

[Iconeum]

Yeah well. Not exactly mindmelting. If you would have come up with those reads on your own, and actually tried to solve, sure.
This feels very much like a copy pasta of my reads, only conveniently the last ones leave open a different lynch.

I've reread what I needed to. You just come out a lot worse then any other slot wrt PM/gamesolving.

[shos]

-havent read this page yet-

The fact that PM was detached is correct. This means the only way we can analyze this wagon is by interactions about him, rather than with him.

From this, we can work with who jumped the wagon for credit, and who actually helped this wagon form.

That's about it.

[Iconeum]

i'm about ready to end this day

[shos]

I'm actually about as unready as I have ever been
The only slot I feel actually

comfortable

lynching is Cyrus
I can lynch nom but I do have reservations
I will not Lynch Kelly, icon and vorkuta

I feel like I carry heavy responsibility if we mislynch :/
How long is until deadline?

[nomnomnom]

Ico I'm going to repeat this one last time: I'm not scum. My meta supports this and on top of that I just provided reads that you, yourself, said mirror your own. That's a good sign that you are with another townie.

I think this is where I want to lead a lynch, even though I know you aren't going to vote there most likely VOTE: Chickadee

[Iconeum]

1day 6 hours to deadline

[Iconeum]

The only slot I feel actually comfortable lynching is Cyrus

plz no

[Vorkuta]

I hate not being in lynchpools because my read quality suffers as a result.
There's also no one I'm comfortable sheeping.

[Vorkuta]

Uhhhh

Has anyone 180'd completely in terms of tone from D1?

[nomnomnom]

Vork what happened to your Chick scumread

[Vorkuta]

Disappeared after she townspewed with her 'rolled VT 18 times'
I'm too lazy to quote myself but I'll be butthurt if it's her scumplay.

[Vorkuta]

I'm not even sure it existed after D1 now that I think about it.
IIRC, I thought town!chickadee would be more.... helpful/solvey/active/controlling/hunting wtv, but now I feel like this is honest-demoralized-town chickadee

Plus it was probably slightly kneejerky as well

[shos]

Vork; you are, sadly for you, a mostly-global townread. It would REALLY help everyone if your input was a little bit deeper. Please take the time this evening and get some work done - we don't have much time

[cyrus62]

Spoiler:

I mean I'm pretty much excluding Vorkuta because of how he lead PM's lynch.

Upon further revision it's unlikely that you're scum too because of how you acted regarding PM, so you have some points there.

That leaves me with Cyrus, Kelly, Chick and shos. Kelly and Chick were not on PM's lynch and Cyrus has been acting weird all game although Cyrus is in general a really weird person so I'm unsure about him. Him acting weird is not alignment indicative I believe, so all the options are on the table. For a player like him I feel it's extremely town to have hammered PMysterious. I think I would not be so lenient with a move like this if it came from, say, Vorkuta for example, but here it's a player that plays relatively straightforward so I want to think Cyrus is town.

I think that how Shos is acting today is actually quite townie compared to previous days. I think that it would be really easy for scum him to continue to vote me considering that a lot of people think I can be scum, but he straight up unvoted me to discuss other lynch options so that's really townie. That's why I unvoted.

So that leaves me with Chick and Kelly. Chick is really detached from the game and Kelly is taking the easy path by voting me and recreating the 1v1 situation we had yesterday. I think that with this line of thinking, I kind of want to vote Kelly considering that in this gamestate I am the next mislynch on the horizon and that Kelly is taking the easy path. I know you think otherwise but considering that Gameplay's slot was shaky as hell the slot needed to town up regardless, don't you think?

That's my thoughts on the matter, feel free to comment on that.

you feel it too? thats cuse theres 3 of them try shoting for 2 insted of one.

[Chickadee]

Haven’t caught up. Just responding to this one thing real quick.

Ur talking about weeks ago, not now. also, it was extremely relevant to know wether or not Korina was a VT, AND not to mention I asked that particular question because Cyrus claimed that the information WAS available, but the 'mod removed it'.

As for your comment about being dead, no. Being modkilled =/= being dead.

I don't know why I haven't been having dreams. Have you considered the fact that MAYBE they don't know they can? Or MAYBE they know, but not who? I've fully claimed all I know, and I tried baiting the NK by leaving some in the open while actually being a useless role.

Do you honestly have doubts about my claim?

I also remember reading it and will also back up that the mod removed it.
But I don’t think we should base anything solid on it since it appears to be information we “don’t have.”

@shos you keep seeming to forget the part where I’m capitalizing MODKILLED to emphasize that line of questioning is pointless. It wasn’t a regular game death. If you really want to waste your time with it that’s fine but I would encourage anyone not to waste with you. I’m trying to get the group focused on things that matter and you’re taking that and spinning it to shade me.