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I did not have a townread on gameplay, Kelly is towning up tho

Let's say town could be Ico/Cyrus/Vorkuta/Kelly (and in this order)

Based on this day Chick is looking a lot better

So yeah PoE also points to a lynch in nom/shos

Thoughts?

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The 4v3 takes into account 2 cult right now

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why is shos the lynch today from your pov, though?

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VOTE: nom

Actually this vote was so bad and he contradicts himself in his ISO about how to handle Drew so this needs to go. Either you're really bad as town or you're openwolfing.

VOTE: Shos

Oh just quit it with the massclaim bullshit guys
this game is a short deadline game and you're all wasting time on this crap. Setup spec will give you nothing, especially in a bastard game.

You're telling everyone not to waste time with this but you're wasting time by not popcorning it.

VOTE: shos
I've had enough of your idiocy.

A contradiction on a slot that was extremely difficult to sort based on the claimed wtf role, and stalling the massclaim. Anything else?

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we don't have confirmation on there actually being a cult. Let's focus on killing scum, and if the game doesn't end we go from there.

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From a balance perspective, starting the game with 10 town v 3 scum

Odds are you lynch town D1

N1 cult recruit + potential NK

brings town to 7v3v1 on D2

which means town is likely out of the game by D3 (and we are obviously still in this, so the 3 scum theory is probably wrong)

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so i say we at 4 / 2 / 1 so yes if we dont lynch right we lose

This is possible, yes.

Who are the 4 town according to you Cyrus?

If we can establish those, we have a good chance of winning.

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that's fair, so your 4 town are something like (Cyrus/Ico/Vorkuta/NomNom)?

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you should assume that IF there are cult, they are working together with town to eliminate scum. Thus, you can't really destinguish them from regular town yet. It's normal you don't have cult reads now, and that's also a concern i have with Shos.

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I still think shos is a good lynch here, assuming we have a mislynch available. It allows us to possibly make a mistake there and lynch into nomnom next day.

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nomnom didn't want the PM lynch tho, and is kinda sketchy on the shos read

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On the previous day I'd have auto-lynched shos after seeing PM flip, but shos has been towny in responding to me

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On the previous day I'd have auto-lynched shos after seeing PM flip, but shos has been towny in responding to me

lynching based only on wagon analysis is very newbie of you. Read the intent behind nom's PM vote

taking a single element from my thoughts process and saying i'm newb because i only focus on that is a serious misrep or equally newbie of you

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Auto-lynch based on the PM flip you said, so...

and again you take literally a single piece of everything i said so

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I've been trying to sort nommers and you, shos, as fairly as I can. I'm really unsure between the two of you, and I could/have made scumcases for the both of you.

Don't give me this crap that 'I want to auto lynch you' when I've just spent like 2-3 pages discussing why it could be nom over you. Also you disregarding content of all those posts in order to be able and call me a newbie because 'lulz you only look at wagon'

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I would've long voted you if nommers wasn't on my mind.

Really dislikes how nom hopped on PM, as you said, and also disliked how nom kept referring to my originial scumread in Chick when I started pushing PM.

Would really appreciate the feedback from other players wrt my nom/shos bracket because according to me i've caught PM partner in the 2 of you

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why do you want to lynch cyrus over shos?

Is this.... is this even a question?
How long are we going to give cyrus a free pass for EVERYTHING?

The mutual/consensus "he's our VI"
-doesn't cut it for me personally
-didnt apply to jigglypuff


Also nom vs shos was yesterday, and we postponed it today. Why not delay it until tomorrow?

No. We are lynching in Nom/shos today. Sliight preference for shos, but the difference is a lot smaller then I thought it would be.

*Sigh*
reading pages 46-47, I really don't care by now which one of nommers and cyrus we lynch.

@Icon: at post 1152 I analyzed the modkill and got to the conclusion that Korina had a PT with someone. Today, you came forward and said that dead players could talk to you.
Would you please elaborate on any discussions you have had with any dead player? Perhaps any info on how korina broke the rules, too?

First off, Korina isn't dead. Korina is MODKILLED. Stop talking about this. Second, if I had any relevant information I'd have claimed it already.

I am a Town Medium. During night, I can be visited by dead players. If they do, I will have dreams according to their choice if they decide to contact me. Nothing happened so far. At all.

This is the full extent of my role. I ca

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I can see why it's a big deal to some, because not full claiming now can lead to me 'being cult or scum and leaving room for a fake claim later'.

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@Vorkuta, we are not lynching Cyrus. He's 99.9% town here. He. Just. Is.

@Cyrus, please leave Vorkuta be for today. It's not because he expresses a scum or cultread in you, that he's bad. He is trying to sort the game and win, and he thinks you might be a bad dude because of how you play. Remember the other game, where I thought you were scum as well? I was just town who thought to have found one of the baddies.

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dont mindtrying to make sence of the game 3 days we lost town att the end of the day then we hit one scum . more town then scum due to draw dieing day 2 maybe

this is a wrong representation of the gamestate tho.

We were forced to live with a modkill on an unflipped player D1. On D2 we

deliberately

chose to lynch what we KNEW was town, just because of negative utility role.
On D3 we lynched scum. That's actually a pretty good town record given the circumstances.

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Icon, you asked my conclusions about the PM interactions. Probably that nom and Chickadee were most plausible as PM partner. (Shos gets a nod but I dunno, it seems wrong to me.) I haven't done a Cyrus-PM post yet. My heart's not really into finishing that though... I think it won't be too conclusive. In the time left I'll either finish it or reread about Drew arguments.

My intention is to vote Nom. I would have done this already except you still haven't finished claiming (name and any info).

The bastard thing doesn't matter so much. Could your role be in the game is one question. (Probably but from a balance perspective it doesn't seem to have much effect.) Aside from that, it's just would you really think that a dreamer role is a bastard role.

why are you so fixated on lynching what you think is cult, when there's yet NO actual evidence of said cult in game?

I think you could be cult though. Not sure how well your breadcrumbs work out for one thing.

Anyway why would there not be cult? There is more evidence for than against due to Drew's role. I can't believe Drew would have received a role that basically just has to get himself lynched and make everybody talk about cult for a day when actually it's not in the setup at all. It would be a bastard thing for a mod to do but it's also pretty stupid isn't it?

I don't think the reason to not hunt cult is that the cult might not even exist. I don't get that idea.

I think ur asking the right questions tho. Town cannot allow any kind of room for fake claims later on, so ur right to push me on that. The bastard question is kinda important because the mod said 50% is bastard role. Any role where dead players can still interact with the game is strictly bastard, so yeah.

Wrt to cult, one or two could be in this game sure. But other then a role that suggests cult, i've not seen actual evidence yet.

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VOTE: nomnom

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I suppose that's one way to look at it, the other being I was actually surprised someone was hinting towards my own role.

(I honestly doubt i'm capable of coming up with faking it like you are suggesting, but i'm flattered anyway )

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nom, I think ur scum with PM because how you handled your vote on him (trying to steer me back on Chick, working against the PM lynch until late and what I think is apathy for PM because he wasn't here). Your shos case is also nothing, and not reconsidered with PM flip.

Why am I wrong then?

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Also like, I could get that you were not into this game previous day and that it felt kinda dead, but town would definitely have renewed energy upon seeing a scum flip, no?

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nomnom, i don't think this is your towngame either?

am i wrong?

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but you can check

+1 can confirm, scum!nom would never lie down and do nothing esp. now

what would town!nom be doing right now?

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Idk, town!nom never made it this far in my games

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i just opened 2 random finished games with nom in it, both nom town PR, both killed N1

...

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@vorkuta, can you re-skim nomnom ISO and tell me you think that's town!nom who's trying to steer me away from PM lynch?

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Ur talking about weeks ago, not now. also, it was extremely relevant to know wether or not Korina was a VT, AND not to mention I asked that particular question because Cyrus claimed that the information WAS available, but the 'mod removed it'.

As for your comment about being dead, no. Being modkilled =/= being dead.

I don't know why I haven't been having dreams. Have you considered the fact that MAYBE they don't know they can? Or MAYBE they know, but not who? I've fully claimed all I know, and I tried baiting the NK by leaving some in the open while actually being a useless role.

Do you honestly have doubts about my claim?

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oh apparently you do

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Don't know what else to say wrt to my role tho. I've crumbed it from the beginning of the game, I've not withheld crucial information.

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shos you've been consistenly drawing alot of what i'm saying out of context here.... please stop

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Uhh you asking about korina is fine, but me isn't, right?

Post from weeks ago, completely game relevant. Unrelated to what's happening now.

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Your claim is extremely underwhelming, considering that korina was dead long before she was modkilled. You don't suppose a player might actually want to talk to someone when they're playing mafia right?

what part from 'i can be visited AT NIGHT' didn't you get?
When was Korina modkilled? DAY 1? Oh right, she Korina had NO WAY to visit me.

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Honestly this claim made me extremely doubtful about my townread on icon

why did you have a townread on me in the first place?

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wait what would you call my role if not a PR? I'm definitely not a VT... I never gave any indication that I'm actually usefull/powerfull or anything like that. I've literally stated multiple times that if I had something usefull to say wrt to my claim, I'd have done so.

I was literally trying to bait the NK towards me.

And last but not least, YOU WILL NOT GIVE ME CRAP ABOUT THE WHOLE MASSCLAIM FIASCO. YOU ARE GODDAMN RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FUCKING TERRIBLE WAY THAT WENT DOWN

/rant

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2. You say that nobody contacted you - not even RC.2.a. if they didn't know they can - then this role is completely nullified

why would i even lie about this?

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like, what's even your problem with my claim?

that i've not fully claimed yet, or that it's just completely fake?

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I've started hinting towards my role from the beginning of the game. Once I saw someone mention dreams I jumped right ontop of that. I've crumbed towards it multiple times ever since.

I don't know how this is designed, but i've been completely honest about everything here.

ffs shos, ur even trying to discredit me for 'claiming pr' when 'i'm not a pr' WHILE I CLEARLY AM

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I'm going to lol at you for calling me responsible for that
I was against massclaim. And I claimed. If anyone wanted the claiming process to proceed they could claim.

This last argument about drawing the NK is a bit fishy too, if I may add, since everyone claimed VT.

You completely fucked up the gamestate with how you went about the massclaim. It's. A. Fact.

But fine. If you wanna believe i'm being theatrical and faked my trying to sort in nom and you, that's just fine. Draw your conclusion.

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Regardless I'm scum. I just can't be assed lol

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Calm your tits bro
I can literally feel your emotions. Try to stay composed

Something rubs me off badly. That's all I'm saying. You've answered some of my questions but mostly they aren't satisfying me.

On the flip side though, it would be very very stupid of scum to fakeclaim like that when everyone claimed VT. It makes you center of attention and scum never want this.

I'm trying to keep calm It's one of my working points. Thanks for reminding me tho, that never hurts.

It actually fits in what i've seen from you today, actual effort in sorting. Trust me, I've been wondering all game long why I haven't seen my actual role in action yet.

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LolI am enjoying this gameYou can consider me back on mafiascum guys

Don't worry I just got carried away a little bit. Paranoia and all

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Icon, do me a favor and help me out in putting this aside hopefully. Could you point me to as many posts as you can where you crumbed the whole dream shit?

361 i was hinting towards drew wrt 'still having influence over the game'.

711 should speak for itself

823 was my PR claim

1056 i referrence it again (at this point it was aimed a lot more towards the dead players who i was hoping would catch on)

1175 i'm not even trying to hide it at this point

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also 112, but Kelly already mentioned this one

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nom's apathy isn't helping me townread there

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nom, has your shos read changed at all this dayphase?

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nice reads

how are you relating me to PM exactly? was it my vivid scumread on him from back in D1, thru D2, until I finally got him lynched D3?

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In 308 I started pushing PM with a scumread. That's early D1.
310
366
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396
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460
463
928
1083
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1161
1162
1186
1189

How are you even considering I'm the buddy?

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I have some doubts on your claim and stuff.

What is there to doubt? What is stuff?

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I feel like maybe a scum is in you/chick

well you do. You almost literally say I could be the buddy here.

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Upon rereading my own ISO, shos looks a lot better then nom, even tho both have a sketchy relation to the PM lynch.

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Fair. But I've been super wrapped up in the exhausting job of preschool teacher, and this game hasn't been a priority.

It can also be said if you that I'm an easy push. Please tell me the scum motivation in any of my actions.

Chick is a bit similar to nom, actually. A little detached from the game, but I think nom has more presence with less content. Chick has a LOT more elaborate reads that are evolving, and nomnom is just sticking to a scumread from D1 I think?

Ok, caught up.

You guys have me for about an hour before I have to go to a doctor appointment (side story, the lady not he phone this morning asked why I was coming in and got very concerned and said "Oh dear" when I told her I'd been sick for a week and a half. It was adorable.)

Still unsure about Vork, but it's not happening so I won't be pushing there.
Nom can be town
Icon can be town
Spicey, but I even think Shos can be town

This was an interesting post, and it doesn't come from scum according to me. I really liked this.

Anyone that isn't me, or isn't on that list.

My preference would be PM

Cyrus feels too easy

Gameplay is null because they seemed to site flake. Would prefer to wait for a replacement before doing anything with that slot.

Chick is not on my shortlist of potential partners with PM. That pretty much sums up my read there.

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maybe the answer is that none of us are partnered with PM? Maybe?

Maybe chick is scum here.

multiball scum with just a single NK each night

i suppose it's

possible

they each have an odd/even NK to go between them.

But I'm going with the easiest answer here, 1 scumteam and possibly 1 cult faction without a NK.

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There's also Kelly in the playerlist, what's your read on them? I personally have yet to have a read on that slot, gameplay was very detached and got replaced out as well.

yeah see I think ur beginning to catch onto my PoE.

gameplay was meh, Kelly has towned it up.

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Honestly think about it, PM was very detached from this game and so is Chick, maybe they saw a bunch of us screaming at each other and what the fuck to do with Drew on the first 2 days so they took the backseat and watched us burn. That makes sense to me.

Shos was much more involved but arguably that was because of me fosing him, so there's room for doubt.

i think you are more detached from this game then Chick, so you must be scum according to this logic?

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it's the only defence you have rn tho...

meta

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nomnom

make a PoE please

why is chick scum? or gameplay/kelly?

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Up until the last paragraph (Chick and Kelly) those are mirror reads to my own. I have a much stronger townread on Cyrus, but you come to the same basic conclusion.

If you flip town, I'd revisit both Kelly and Chick over shos at this time.

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Yeah well. Not exactly mindmelting. If you would have come up with those reads on your own, and actually tried to solve, sure.
This feels very much like a copy pasta of my reads, only conveniently the last ones leave open a different lynch.

I've reread what I needed to. You just come out a lot worse then any other slot wrt PM/gamesolving.

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i'm about ready to end this day

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1day 6 hours to deadline

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The only slot I feel actually comfortable lynching is Cyrus

plz no

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see my thoghts what if its pm/nom/shos or chick/shos/pm or shos/vork/pm or cyrus/kelly/pm or cyrus/shos/pm or kelly/pm/shos but this are diffent scum teams i have invited in my head with a short dead line pick who you vote

Why are you putting yourself in a possible scum b racket

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Ico- so help me god, but he's scumclaiming.

Also I'm going to have to disagree with you. I don't care how much you vouch for ico, I don't know either of you two well enough to agree.
If we're going to lose because of this, I'd rather go on my own terms and feel bad about it later.
VOTE: Cyrus

Rip game

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Town Icon has always been believable though.

wait do i know you?

sorry if i forgot

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agreed. Also the only defence is non-game related even tho there's probably a better word for that

'my meta'

'haven't been mislynched yet'

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I feel bad with literally every single post by him

it is the way of the Cyrus

you can blame me if he's anything other then town this game

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i'm like, less sure about this lynch then i was about PM

but still

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my townread on Cyrus is partly meta

but i can actually see him trying to solve this game

he has reads that he is working with since early on

I don't see *why* you scumread him exactly.

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ok so if his intention is to take credit for everything, where is he doing this? I don't even see him taking credit for PM lynch for example?

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he isn't the most easily readible (literally) person on site, but what are his intentions? I don't see him trying to take credit for anything.

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i dare say that I even liked his case on you, shos

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rereading nom, i'm having so much doubts it's painfull

nom's early game is actually a lot better then I thought

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but *someone* has to be scum here wtf

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nah nommers is a good lynch

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I think ur kinda right and I might be going on 2 standards here... It's mainly a meta townread on Cyrus, but it's solid. Cyrus spewing his thoughts out like this, he literally hasn't been able to fake that, yet.

But he isn't using that as a means to town himself up.

Nommers is *solely* using *self-meta* as a ways of avoiding the lynch.

I think that's a big difference

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VOTE: Cyrus

If we're going to have a dodgy lynch I'd rather have Cyrus go

that's a dirty vote

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VOTE: Cyrus

If we're going to have a dodgy lynch I'd rather have Cyrus go

If you were town you could at least have brought up the fact that your lynch is wrong no matter what, and that Cyrus is a better lynch because of this. But not… this.

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We've had 1 vote count for the entire dayphase...

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Cyrus has been acting weird all game although Cyrus is in general a really weird person so I'm unsure about him. Him acting weird is not alignment indicative I believe, so all the options are on the table. For a player like him I feel it's extremely town to have hammered PMysterious. I think I would not be so lenient with a move like this if it came from, say, Vorkuta for example, but here it's a player that plays relatively straightforward

so I want to think Cyrus is town

.

what happened, nom?

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I'll attempt to lay out cyrus' effort in casing shos (which I think strongly points towards a town!cyrus sorting effort)

384 attempt at sorting shos
907 calling shos scum 'for stalling tactics then complaining about not having enough time'. I think that was a very good take
1049
11476 makes a shortlist that contains scum according to him
1210 were my thoughts at the time, too
1280 if you try, you can actually see this is a logical town!thought process. Calling out shos for shading, stalling, trying to block the PM lynch. Is this the best player on site? No. But I think his intentions are in the right place.

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VOTE: Cyrus

If we're going to have a dodgy lynch I'd rather have Cyrus go

Shit, I'm being tempted

ur tempted to join nomnom who is now voting his townread?

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shos was already voting nom

so i read that as tempted to vote Cyrus because of what nom said?

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and you have no quarrel with the fact nom just switches to his TOWNREAD

at all?

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why are you ignoring the towncase i'm making wrt Cyrus?

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This gamestate is forcing me to make this vote.

that was literally the only excuse you could have that would have made sense to me. But you didn't. You only used this when I called you out for it and 'reminded' you about it.

It's freakin' scary that others wanna follow you there

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my opinion: i have a lot more faith taking Cyrus to lylo then nomnom because I have a townread in him and a scumread on nom

that's what everyone should be thinking about

if you have doubts on both slots, then I think Cyrus has produced (spewed) a lot less filtery then nommers.

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50/50 means mod randomizes the lynch

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yeah mod randoms the lynch when multiple players are tied

i don't want that

let's at least make sure we can get a read tomorrow off of the lynch

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Vote Count 4.1

shos (2)cyrus62;nomnomnom;

Chickadee (0)

nomnomnom (1)shos;

Iconeum (0)

cyrus62(0)

Vorkuta (0)

Kelly Chen

gameplay506

(0)

Not Voting (4)Kelly Chen;Chickadee;Vorkuta;Iconeum;

It's 4 for a majority lynch.

Day 4 will end in (expired on 2019-11-07 15:40:00) or when a majority lynch has been achieved.

nom unvote
Ico votes nom
nom votes chick
vork votes Cyrus
vork unvote
shos votes nom
kelly votes nom
Cyrus votes nom
nom votes Cyrus

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GUYS I THINK NOM WAS ALREADY LYNCHED BY HAVING 4 VOTES THERE

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Cyrus hammered

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or not lol

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but seriously, i think we reached majority with 4 votes by Cyrus 'L-1'

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nomnom, doesn't matter anymore. You are already lynched

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it's literally been twilight since cyrus' hammer

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Ico you forced me to go through this vote when you made it very clear that there was no way I wasn't going to be today's lynch. I have literally no choice but to vote Cyrus considering you will not consider Chick or Kelly which are my two dodgier slots. You're part of why I need to do this.

Now don't be stupid and vote cyrus, you really don't want to bank your game on a dice roll.

I know why you must vote Cyrus. I brought it up myself. The interesting part was that you took on a whole other reason for voting there in the first place.

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I think i'm gonna have a hard time stopping a Cyrus lynch tomorrow if nommers is actually scum

Hell, if nommers flips scum I'll probably have a hard time stopping Cyrus from being lynched if the game isn't over (which it shouldn't be)

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If I'm wrong about Cyrus I will admit as much. Until I'm proven wrong, I am sticking to my townread there. You are ofcourse free to disagree.

But guys seriously, next time OUT YOUR READS EARLIER THEN A COUPLE HOURS BEFORE DEADLINE

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Ugh we've already hammered?
Can anyone confirm plz

i've layed it out, I think

i'm like 90% sure Cyrus hammered

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nom i've checked you are lynched

PM partner, right?

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i don't mind having Cyrus in lylo don't worry

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to be honest, tomorrow will be spicey no matter the lynch today

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Spoiler:

apologies for the slow start from me. I've been adjusting to a new job i started last week, and a whole new schedule. I'll be able to sit down and look at this better tomorrow night.

I don't think mechanically there's a different vote from me though.

But I'll be able to give some reads.

Ok guys. I lied. I did not expect to come back to 5 pages, so I will not be able to go into depth tonight. But I'll try to at least catch up.
So far, not interested in this Ico-Cyrus debacle. Seems TvT

Lol.

I recruit into cult, I should be lynched.

Sounds a bit like you aren't sure about lynching me.

Hmm?

I really love the pace of this game, however will remain behind. Work is kicking my butt and on top of that I feel like I might be getting sick. Yay childcare.

I'll post when I can. Super sorry.

I'm sick (again) and this game is low priority for me if people continue playing the way they have.

I tried D1 to do the sensible thing as town and no one listened. Drew lived, and now people are trying figure out ratios because omg cult, when we could have nipped that in the bud before it started. And everyone is wasting time about this whole mass claim business. It should have been a simple come-in-claim-get-on-with-it kind of deal.

So why should I care if the rest of town doesn't doesn't care about playing the game? That was an incredibly cheap shot to take at me nom. I was just trying to vent a frustration at the game state.

Lots to look at. Will get to this on lunch break, or after work.

Haven’t caught up. Just responding to this one thing real quick.

Ur talking about weeks ago, not now. also, it was extremely relevant to know wether or not Korina was a VT, AND not to mention I asked that particular question because Cyrus claimed that the information WAS available, but the 'mod removed it'.

As for your comment about being dead, no. Being modkilled =/= being dead.

I don't know why I haven't been having dreams. Have you considered the fact that MAYBE they don't know they can? Or MAYBE they know, but not who? I've fully claimed all I know, and I tried baiting the NK by leaving some in the open while actually being a useless role.

Do you honestly have doubts about my claim?

I also remember reading it and will also back up that the mod removed it.
But I don’t think we should base anything solid on it since it appears to be information we “don’t have.”

@shos you keep seeming to forget the part where I’m capitalizing MODKILLED to emphasize that line of questioning is pointless. It wasn’t a regular game death. If you really want to waste your time with it that’s fine but I would encourage anyone not to waste with you. I’m trying to get the group focused on things that matter and you’re taking that and spinning it to shade me.

I need a vote count. I'm out of touch and should be packing. Eeep

@scum, plz NK

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I can link a game where town cyris literally accidently hammered

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With a hilarious explanation post just like here

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town had exactly 0.00 chance to win because of flips

also i'm sad that i didn't have a single dream

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"You had a pleasant dream about nomnomnom"

Interesting to speculate if the latter would have influenced Icon.

i was entirely expecting crumbed information but it's hard to tell what i'd make of it during the game

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haven't read here yet over the weekend

was there a particular reason i didn't get dreams?

why was korina modkilled? what was this power?

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But we could never tell the town anything like that. And I think town could never speculate about it because it would leave no means to try to hunt scum.

i made a list pre-game to determine for myself what to possibly expect, and opposite flips were on that. and during the game i completely forgot i made that list :s

with all vt's flipping scum this game is nigh impossible for town to win under current circumstances, but i wonder if the modkilled PR could have changed that?

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So what was the point of the dead Mason PT?

korina.
You were confirmed to korina as town. You were able to assist the Delegate of the Dead(here:korina) as confirmed town. The Delegate of the Dead who was supposed to have one vote from the grave, one time per day, until the end of the game.
.... MODKILL....

but that didn't happen.



You were a Death Mason because, of course, you had to lynch yourself at some point(and the pt had knowledge about you being bad for town), so as compensation, you were supposed to be able to influence the dead vote of the delegate greatly

....MODKILL....
but that didn't happen.

death mason combined with an anti-town role that 'requires' you to get lynched but that grants you a death mason topic with another PR...
damn that's actually good i like it

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what if I told y'all that I had a dream that Drew flipped jester

would that make you unvote him

that makes this infinitely funnier in hindsight then

i REALLY thought you had a similar role, can't make that shit up

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ahhh

so we had a townie that could become conftown with a vote that scum can't do jack shit about?

yeah that probably could've helped out lol

i think if i got a couple dreams of that caliber (nightmare vorkuta, pleasant nomnom) that we could have figured this out