Masochist Mafia II [Game Over]

[Jingle]

Seriously, though, if nothing else you could have people vote on who you should desperado, picking an arbitrary time at which you will activate so that town has something to analyze regardless of the flip.

[Ramcius]

Well, voting results from what we had discussed are something like:

Jingle - 1
Nancy - 1
McMenno - 1

[Nancy Drew 39]

Well, voting results from what we had discussed are something like:

Jingle - 1
Nancy - 1
McMenno - 1

I’m not opposed to adding your name to that list.

[Ramcius]

Well, voting results from what we had discussed are something like:

Jingle - 1
Nancy - 1
McMenno - 1

I’m not opposed to adding your name to that list.

I prefer getting lynched at end of the day - I have like 4 votes on me already and me becoming IC changes nothing as people wouldn't lynch Jingle no matter how much I demand it. Updated list:

Jingle - 1
Nancy - 1
McMenno - 1
Ramcius - 1

[Nancy Drew 39]

Why are you so convinced Jingle is scum here?

[Ramcius]

Why are you so convinced Jingle is scum here?

I'm more surprised how you don't suspect him after he tried direct desperado on you - he excluded Irrel as an active and readable, but wanted to test you

[Nancy Drew 39]

i didn’t really see it as a “test” though. It was pretty clear he was tr me but you have a point that he’s that opposed to him being desperado’d but I dunno. He’s only been scum once in a game with me and he was seriously slimy in that.

Plus Gamma whom I tl is tling him.

I actually think it might be good for Korina to desperado Irrel. He did kind of make a bit of a federal case wrt to my entrance, so I don’t understand why Jingle thinks he’s so readable here?

Or Overkill or may be even Kokichi are difficult slots to parse?

That said, I’m not opposed to Korina desperadoing Jingle but I think desperadoing a hard to read slot, is probably the best use of that mechanic.

[Ramcius]

Well, he said you'd be best IC, desperado as a test is my interpretation of that role. How Jingle isn't slimy here? Saying everyone else would be bad desperado, cause it hurts their activity - what activity, when it's 3 of us + Gamma sometimes are actually active? Claimed he wanted to be lynched instead of desperado'ed just to change it later to that he'd never get lynched in this game. Wanted to be scum kill, yet don't want paint target on his back and become IC

You see, to me it looks like Jingle is trying distance/buss you, but you are afraid to do same to him, hence you both look like scumbuddies to me

[Nancy Drew 39]

Wow, seriously?

You think we’re buddies? He was clearly suspicious of me earlier in the game. I’m not afraid of him being desperado’d. I think it would be a waste to use on me but tbf, I recall posting that IC was my favourite role. The real problem is that Korina is in such a hurry to do it, he isn’t taking into account either the most optimal player to use it nor the most optimal time.

I <3 you Ram. Will a game ever exist where you will read me accurately - short of us hydraing - that is?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Well, he said you'd be best IC, desperado as a test is my interpretation of that role. How Jingle isn't slimy here? Saying everyone else would be bad desperado, cause it hurts their activity - what activity, when it's 3 of us + Gamma sometimes are actually active? Claimed he wanted to be lynched instead of desperado'ed just to change it later to that he'd never get lynched in this game. Wanted to be scum kill, yet don't want paint target on his back and become IC

You see, to me it looks like Jingle is trying distance/buss you, but you are afraid to do same to him, hence you both look like scumbuddies to me

Well, maybe you have a point because that really didn’t make a helluva lot of sense to me. Re: the whole activity thing.

[Ramcius]

Yes, I remember. I'm not saying you afraid of Jingle being desperado'ed, I'm saying you afraid to push him back for some reason and try to stay clear from taking strong stance on him. Like you say he's town, but you give no actual reason for that read of yours

It's not that I didn't TR you in LNT late D1 and D2, it was my hope that all 3 of you (TLK, Gamma and you) were scum, cause I was scared of idea having you 3 as my allies and therefore having no real idea who scum are

[Jingle]

It was pretty clear he was tr me

I do? News to me.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Yes, I remember. I'm not saying you afraid of Jingle being desperado'ed, I'm saying you afraid to push him back for some reason and try to stay clear from taking strong stance on him. Like you say he's town, but you give no actual reason for that read of yours

It's not that I didn't TR you in LNT late D1 and D2, it was my hope that all 3 of you (TLK, Gamma and you) were scum, cause I was scared of idea having you 3 as my allies and therefore having no real idea who scum are

Well we all know how that turned out.

[Nancy Drew 39]

It was pretty clear he was tr me

I do? News to me.

So Ram was right then? That whole activity thing really was bs. I kind of thought it was because it sounded like a pretty dumb reason to want someone desperado’d.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Hmmmm . . . RC has pulled this kind of schtick on me before. Jingle obviously knew I would react badly if he advocated me being desperado’d because he was sr me, so he comes up with this bizarro activity thing instead.

Well, at least I know now it was a trick - one I will not fall for going forward.

[Ramcius]

Yes, I remember. I'm not saying you afraid of Jingle being desperado'ed, I'm saying you afraid to push him back for some reason and try to stay clear from taking strong stance on him. Like you say he's town, but you give no actual reason for that read of yours

It's not that I didn't TR you in LNT late D1 and D2, it was my hope that all 3 of you (TLK, Gamma and you) were scum, cause I was scared of idea having you 3 as my allies and therefore having no real idea who scum are

Well we all know how that turned out.

Indeed, not listening what I say is bad, so you should trust me always from now

[Jingle]

I mean... I wouldn’t advocate a desperado shot on a townread, regardless of how I thought it would impact the slots performance. If I was confident you were town I’d rather Kori holster than shoot you.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Yes, I remember. I'm not saying you afraid of Jingle being desperado'ed, I'm saying you afraid to push him back for some reason and try to stay clear from taking strong stance on him. Like you say he's town, but you give no actual reason for that read of yours

It's not that I didn't TR you in LNT late D1 and D2, it was my hope that all 3 of you (TLK, Gamma and you) were scum, cause I was scared of idea having you 3 as my allies and therefore having no real idea who scum are

Well we all know how that turned out.

Indeed, not listening what I say is bad, so you should trust me always from now

What if you roll scum in a game?

[Nancy Drew 39]

I mean... I wouldn’t advocate a desperado shot on a townread, regardless of how I thought it would impact the slots performance. If I was confident you were town I’d rather Kori holster than shoot you.

Confession time: I was extremely tilted about being mislynched in Timeshift by idiot WOATs and decided to deliberately play super scummy to see what would happen. I’m over it now. Make of that what you will.

I also expected Jingle to somehow see though it. I guess I was way too convincing. But yeah, I was needling you, hoping you’d get a clue but like I said, I still would prefer to be desperado’d only in late game and only if absolutely necessary.

I think you’re being silly to want to waste it on me when we have hard to read slots like Kokichi and Overkill in this game.

Anyone who has experience playing with either, should logically concur with this.

[Gamma Emerald]

Shouldn’t Vedith be replaced
I see him on the player list and he hasn’t posted in way too long

[Not_Mafia]

Shouldn’t your mum be replaced
I see him on the player list and he hasn’t posted in way too long

[Nancy Drew 39]

Shouldn’t your mum be replaced
I see him on the player list and

he

hasn’t posted in way too long

“He”?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Shouldn’t Vedith be replaced
I see him on the player list and he hasn’t posted in way too long

@Fire, please prod Vedith

, kthanx.

[Ramcius]

What if you roll scum in a game?

Are you telling you're not scum in here?

[Ramcius]

I mean... I wouldn’t advocate a desperado shot on a townread, regardless of how I thought it would impact the slots performance. If I was confident you were town I’d rather Kori holster than shoot you.

Confession time: I was extremely tilted about being mislynched in Timeshift by idiot WOATs and decided to deliberately play super scummy to see what would happen. I’m over it now. Make of that what you will.

I also expected Jingle to somehow see though it. I guess I was way too convincing. But yeah, I was needling you, hoping you’d get a clue but like I said, I still would prefer to be desperado’d only in late game and only if absolutely necessary.

I think you’re being silly to want to waste it on me when we have hard to read slots like Kokichi and Overkill in this game.

Anyone who has experience playing with either, should logically concur with this.

I don't think I ever played with over, but he was ok I think, from what I've seen couple years ago, Kokichi was pretty scummy as a town and not too much involved in couple games I played with him, so him lurking like that doesn't look out of ordinary.

Are you know enough about rest of the playerlist to exclude those 2?

Also, Vedith isn't only person up for a prod