Open 769: Venrob's PYP X/Y (Town Wins)


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Post Post #1875 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:56 pm

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i'm going creaturestyle rapidfire POE rather than a tiered readlist because i'm feeling special today
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Post Post #1876 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:57 pm

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In post 1874, Luca Blight wrote:I'm talking about Frost saying 'lynch Nom as she's less likely to be a PR', when on D1 his opinion was 'lynch Xayah over Billy, it doesn't matter who is more likely a PR'.
the goalposts have shifted
it went from {xayah, billy} to {nom, self}

sorry - i thought this was apparent when i suggested aaron is crumbing something
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Post Post #1877 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:57 pm

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In post 1873, Wooper wrote:where are you at?
is this at me?

i feel like if nom is a scum venge there's a decent chance i get venged here tho
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Post Post #1878 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:58 pm

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In post 1871, skitter30 wrote:idk i'm not vibing town!suji that strongly rn
What are your concerns with me as this seems to be a consistent view?
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Post Post #1879 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:59 pm

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i don't know

you don't feel ~scummy~ per se but:

- i still don't like your pop-in at eod 1 and how you hammered there (i know we talked about it but i still feel that way)
- there were a few townie posts that i kinda liked

but holistically i just don't feel comfortable townbinning you rn

idk how to explain that better
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Post Post #1880 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:00 pm

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In post 1877, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1873, Wooper wrote:where are you at?
is this at me?

i feel like if nom is a scum venge there's a decent chance i get venged here tho
yeah, at you. i know i got a readlist off you like yesterday just wondering how you're feeling at a "hey these are my strong townreads" level

agree your nk equity is high but it stays high regardless - with one scum alive tpr balance shifts trastically upwards so they actually need to shoot for TPRs. unfortunately it's a good trade-off.
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Post Post #1881 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:00 pm

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In post 1876, Wooper wrote:
In post 1874, Luca Blight wrote:I'm talking about Frost saying 'lynch Nom as she's less likely to be a PR', when on D1 his opinion was 'lynch Xayah over Billy, it doesn't matter who is more likely a PR'.
the goalposts have shifted
it went from {xayah, billy} to {nom, self}

sorry - i thought this was apparent when i suggested aaron is crumbing something
When Frost made the comments D1 he was the main wagon at the time.
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Post Post #1882 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:01 pm

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Btw I wasn't responding to you woth 1874, Wooper, I was continuing from my previous post.
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Post Post #1883 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:02 pm

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Night 2 Vigilante OR Vengeful - becomes a sudden death (assuming i'm wrong abt noms)
Perfectionist Vigilante OR 1-shot PGO (active) - pgo is sudden death; vig is w/e
Sane Cop OR 2-shot Redirector (already dead)
Conditional-Commuter OR 1-shot Watcher - watcher sudden death
Doctor OR Roleblocker - rb is an alignment cop; doc strong lategame
Universal Backup w/ 1-shot override OR Role Cop - nabd
Neighborizer OR Gunsmith - gunsmith results ++value
Jailkeeper OR Tracker - jk sudden death, tracker sudden death
1-shot Governor OR 5-ability JOAT - some joat powers are probably sudden death, don't remember
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Post Post #1884 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:02 pm

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In post 1879, skitter30 wrote:i don't know

you don't feel ~scummy~ per se but:

- i still don't like your pop-in at eod 1 and how you hammered there (i know we talked about it but i still feel that way)
- there were a few townie posts that i kinda liked

but holistically i just don't feel comfortable townbinning you rn

idk how to explain that better
  1. I can't control how my real life affects when and how I am here to play, so there is nothing I can do to alleviate this.
Ok, so you don't feel comfortable placing me as town in your list. You are actively challenging others, however, so I thought there was more concern on your part.
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Post Post #1885 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:03 pm

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Post Post #1886 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:03 pm

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@Luca fair point, I'd missed that he was the major wagon at the time.
still not sure it's all that inconsistent/scummy in practice - aaron defs wants noms dead so there's probably an element of agenda there regardless of alignment

"town agenda" checks out when you're so dead set on a read you need it dead with fire
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Post Post #1887 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:04 pm

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i kinda forgot to make my mechanical point here:

the value of reducing the game to one scum on d2 in this rendition outweighs the risk of hitting a scum venge imo
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Post Post #1888 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:05 pm

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In post 1880, Wooper wrote:yeah, at you. i know i got a readlist off you like yesterday just wondering how you're feeling at a "hey these are my strong townreads" level
luca's my strongest townread rn

other townreads, but like on a lower tier but def not interested in lynching today: you and kerset. i guess probably ss too but i'm not tr'ing him as strongly anymore

so less than i'd like; i have a whole lot of people in the null/nullscum range
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Post Post #1889 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:05 pm

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I thought Xayah was being replaced, but I've just noticed she's on V/LA.

If Nom flips green then I'm gonna feel pretty bad about that slot.
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Post Post #1890 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:06 pm

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In post 1884, Sujimichi wrote:Ok, so you don't feel comfortable placing me as town in your list. You are actively challenging others, however, so I thought there was more concern on your part.
well more like if he was seeing something i wasn't that should be making me townbin since i don't see it rn
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Post Post #1891 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:07 pm

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* me townbin you
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Post Post #1892 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:08 pm

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i kinda crossed ss out then uncrossed him then felt guilty about it
he's the kind of person in this game i'd rather operate under the assumption is town until it breaks :{

pedit: if i have some time i'll iso suji and try to spit out something comprehensible
this is like, a 20% chance thing
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Post Post #1893 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:08 pm

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In post 1890, skitter30 wrote:should be making me townbin
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Post Post #1894 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:09 pm

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Post Post #1895 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:10 pm

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Anyone know how many votes Nom has atm?
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Post Post #1896 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:10 pm

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gottem

i think she's l-1
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Post Post #1897 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:11 pm

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either 5 or 6, i'm not sure
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Post Post #1898 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:11 pm

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In post 1890, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1884, Sujimichi wrote:Ok, so you don't feel comfortable placing me as town in your list. You are actively challenging others, however, so I thought there was more concern on your part.
well more like if he was seeing something i wasn't that should be making me townbin since i don't see it rn
Ok. I get the feeling you want to scumread me, and I don't think you can't fault me for thinking otherwise given you attempt to interact with me but when I answer you don't respond in any way and you challenge people when they town read me. That doesn't feel like honestly sorting me.

That is my feeling. I can't attribute a positive alignment rationale to it, so I'm not sure why you want to do that.
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Post Post #1899 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:11 pm

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In post 1743, TheWizard wrote:
nomnomnom (6):
AaronFrost, skitter30, Wooper, Flubbernugget, Luca Blight, Kerset
AaronFrost (4):
Something_Smart, Sujimichi, nomnomnom, Xayah
Flubbernugget (1):
Sirfetchd

Not Voting (1):
PMysterious

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.


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(expired on 2019-11-16 06:43:00)
In post 1770, Luca Blight wrote:Thank God.

UNVOTE:

Welcome to the game, I'll give you time to catch-up.
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