Mini Normal 2102: Mafia à la Mode! (Game Complete)

[Amrun]

Please, everyone on the LUV wagon, present a case for why BEF was NKed by scum.

[RCEnigma]

We got 4 days I'm not hammering any time soon.

Bob walk me through roleblocking skellen if luv flips scum.

[Amrun]

We got 4 days I'm not hammering any time soon.

Bob walk me through roleblocking skellen if luv flips scum.

Who is the scum between skellen and LUV, in your opinion?

[Almost50]

As I said

ON DAY ONE

; one of Skellen/LUV + one of Mizzy/bob (I didn't say that exactly, but I theorized the vote distribution on wagons at some point and so far nothing has proven me wrong on principle).

VOTE: LUV

This is the correct move. I have no idea why anyone is accepting the Vigilante claim here. I believe the claim came to him when I said a Vig must've shot skitter at the start of D2. I also agree with bob that if LUV was a Vig there's no way he shoots BEF over me or Pret.

2 down, one to go.

[benhalkum]

As I said

ON DAY ONE

; one of Skellen/LUV + one of Mizzy/bob (I didn't say that exactly, but I theorized the vote distribution on wagons at some point and so far nothing has proven me wrong on principle).

VOTE: LUV

This is the correct move. I have no idea why anyone is accepting the Vigilante claim here. I believe the claim came to him when I said a Vig must've shot skitter at the start of D2. I also agree with bob that if LUV was a Vig there's no way he shoots BEF over me or Pret.

2 down, one to go.

Well that escalated quickly. Especially after RCE and Amrun asked for time.

[Plum]

Votecount 4.7

Skellen

- 2 (Lil Uzi Vert, Amrun)

Lil Uzi Vert

- 4 (Skellen, benhalkum, bob3141, Almost50)

Not Voting

- 1 (RCEnigma)

With 7 alive 4 votes achieves a lynch. Scene follows.

[Plum]

Day 4 Lynch

Lil Uzi Vert

,

Town Novice Vigilante

, was lynched Day 4!

Night 4 deadline: (expired on 2019-11-15 13:00:00)

[Plum]

Night 4 Resolution

No one

died Night 4!

With 6 alive it's 4 to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-11-25 15:00:00)

[bob3141]

i roleblocked a50.

[bob3141]

n1 skitter
n2 skellen
n3 rce
n4 a50

[RCEnigma]

Glad you didn't go with skellen like I thought you would.

Also VOTE: Skellen

[bob3141]

yep that was only if luv flipped scum. I said it to try and bluff the scum into think i would rb skellen if luv didnt flip scum.

VOTE: Skellen

[benhalkum]

That pretty much clears it up doesn't it?

Take Skellen out today, RB A50 again tonight and we win?

[benhalkum]

Assuming they figured Skellen would be RB'd and A50 would make the kill.

Awesome thinking Bob.

I know we've had our issues but THAT was a good play

[benhalkum]

I intend to vote Skellen as well, but want to give others a chance to chime in so we don't quick hammer without hearing other opinions.

[benhalkum]

Speaking of.. now that the thread's open...

Did not like the A50 hammer at all at the end of the last phase when we had people asking for time before hammering.

[RCEnigma]

It was to prevent partner skellen from becoming the lynch that day. Which I get.

[benhalkum]

I'd like to hear from Amrun, A50, and Skellen.

At this point I'm confident 2 of them are our remaining scum. All signs point to Skellen and A50, but not quite sold fully.


Thought Amrun's mentioning of why he's unsure the person he replaced had done or said the things they had was a bit odd. While it could be a townish lean of "Why would they look so scummy?" why do it publicly and not just pick up and move foreward?


But this also bothers me cause if Amrun IS scum, then we are wrong on either Skellen or A50 as I am confident RCE and Bob are town at this point.

[RCEnigma]

If amrun is scum it's with Bob so.

[RCEnigma]

Gambiting on no kill isn't outside of A50s wheelhouse but as he was the rb target it's a moot point anyway.

[Skellen]

Considering I think that RCE is town, it's gg. I think it was A50/bob and it's just waiting for the hammer at this point. Although I don't get why they no killed this night, just to push me/A50 team. It wouldn't have mattered if they would have killed Amrun or RCE.

I think they no killed at N2 too to "clear" Pret with a successful save to bring him into lylo. With the jk block and bob's roleblock they could have lined up the necessary two mislynches for the perfect win. My wild guess at it.

The way the last day's ending got rushed before either me or ben had the chance to unvote as Amrun/RCE requested was shady af, like the realized the opportunity they had with the me/LUV situation.

It doesn't matter anymore though.

[Skellen]

Me/A50 doesn't make much sense btw.

There is no reason for me to derail the ben wagon on D2 at L-1 with A50 being the counterwagon and not going anywhere after that for a while. There is no reason to unvote ben without forcing his claim out first (I mean he claimed anyway, but that was not to be expected), let alone to leave out the chance to lynch one of the death-tunnelers on Pret, making his lynch less likely. There is no merit in going for Saladman instead who was no threat at all to me or Pret.

Not to forget that I was even aware of the ties between me and A50 and pointed them out myself. I would distance the hell out of that as scum, especially as it was apparent that Pret might have gone down sooner or later anyway.

Instead look who tried to talk ben out of Pret to move him to Saladman who actually tied Saladman with A50. It were Pret and bob.

[Skellen]

People are way too easy on bob.

I just played a game recently where we had the situation that a Roleblocker got counterclaimed by a Jailkeeper claim and the major town consensus was instantly that these two roles never cooexist both as town PRs. Only one was pushing the narrative that both could be and that was scum. To be fair that was a 9p game, but bob was way too tame on Pret considering Roleblocker and Jailkeeper are way too similar, even in a 13p game with that many town PRs.

Many people seem to overlook that bob was townreading Pret at the end of D3 and went for LUV after Pret changed his claim. This is particularly remarkable because Pret claimed 1-shot Roleblocker in his JOAT claim, never ever a town Roleblocker townreads someone and tries out the "LUV guilty" who has literally the same ability as you would have.

bob doesn't look better at VCA either as he was on D1 on the counterwagon to Pret, on D2 both on the ben and Saladman wagons as Pret and on D3 pushing outside of Pret. And all that although they had supposedly the same roles.

[Skellen]

A50 is scum with his claim though. Never I buy the Visitor claim with a scum Jailkeeper, a Tracker Enabler and a Vig.

[Amrun]

I'd like to hear from Amrun, A50, and Skellen.

At this point I'm confident 2 of them are our remaining scum. All signs point to Skellen and A50, but not quite sold fully.


Thought Amrun's mentioning of why he's unsure the person he replaced had done or said the things they had was a bit odd. While it could be a townish lean of "Why would they look so scummy?" why do it publicly and not just pick up and move foreward?


But this also bothers me cause if Amrun IS scum, then we are wrong on either Skellen or A50 as I am confident RCE and Bob are town at this point.

I wasn’t calling my predecessor scummy. I was seriously fucking confused why they did not go after Pret more after a town doctor flipped, KNOWING they where bodyguard. And they scumread Pret!

I’m used to old site meta and haven’t played in like 6+ years, so perhaps it is the setup spec in me but the second he claimed JK I was like ok, he is fucking scum. And why they then claimed, for no reason, I just do not get.

But in general their scumreads were actually fine!


Not sure why we wouldn’t instalynch Skellen today.