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Post Post #600 (ISO) » Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:28 pm

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In post 560, Looker wrote:
In post 514, Elbirn wrote:Looker, despite your uhh standoffish nature I can read between the lines and see where your head is at. That being said I don't agree with sitting on our hands for days at a time while you wait, for the second time this phase, for someone to come back from VLA before you play. California is on fire. Like, all of it. All the time. Saladman isn't coming back any time soon.

Why do you pick Plank over Saladman in this scenario? From where I'm sitting it seems odd that you're so confident in your plank read, and your stated reasoning is that he...sheeps wagons.
  • I didn't think I was standoffish. Standoffish would be lurking and going V/LA.
  • If you don't like absent players, consult the Mod; that's not my fault
  • Salad's not in California; he's in Australia
  • As opposed to being confident in alimdia's "Looker doesn't sheep wagons"?
1. You have a way of deflecting or approaching conversation in a way that seems disingenuous. I will also insist for the second time that you respect that other players go on VLA for personal reasons.

2. I'm not the one here who has a problem with people going VLA. My point here that you should have grasped is that you don't get to use other peoples absences as an excuse for not playing the game.

3. You know something you're right, I saw him mention wildfires and just assumed he was from Cali. Its immaterial to the game but yeah.

4. Your "whataboutism" doesn't appeal to me bud. I want you to talk about your scumreads, not deflect. Play the game instead of stonewalling, it makes you difficult to read and if you're town you should want my support on your preferred lynches and I've been really transparent about wanting to work WITH you. If you show me you have a thought process re: plank/salad then I can come around to a townread on you and possibly support for a lynch on one of those two.
In post 560, Looker wrote:
In post 538, Elbirn wrote:
In post 536, UltimatePlank wrote: obviously if someone pushes a wagon hard and that wagon turns green, you look at that person? you don't immediately consider they're scum, but you look at that possibility for sure

but he questions why we would do that, saying, "obviously alimdia is just cock sure"

like, what?
You will find that being wrong is not a scumtell.
I don't like that lack of accountability. What's the difference between being "wrong" and intentionally lynching town?
Thought experiment: presume you are town. There are probably 2 scum in a setup this size. 4 people are voting for you. 4 is larger than 2. Even if all scum are voting you, there are several people who are town who are simply *wrong* in thinking you're scum.

The difference between being wrong-town and scum pushing a mislynch is motivation. Read between the lines and try to deduce who has the motivation of uncovering scum and who's trying to mislynch town. That's the whole game.
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Post Post #601 (ISO) » Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:31 pm

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In post 584, Saudade wrote:This looker wagon is made out of players mostly having a hard time getting into the game who were awfully silent in the first 10 pages, odds are its a bad lynch and my wagon on wake is far better
Can you come up with a better wagon than wake? This game state sucks but I'm not lynching someone because "man play game bad, bad game play man badman"

What are your scumreads aside from Wake?
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Post Post #602 (ISO) » Thu Nov 14, 2019 2:36 pm

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In post 599, profii wrote:I said I think almidia is town because he is driving the looker wagon from scratch but at what point should I consider that he could be using it to not really get involved in all the other slots in the game whilst still appearing active and participating
I mean you can make the same argument for Saudaude?
At this point I just really need a flip so I can look at connections because theres quite a few inactive people.

And its counterproductive for me to call out people that join my wagon when I think Looker is scum
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Post Post #603 (ISO) » Thu Nov 14, 2019 2:38 pm

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He is at L2 at the moment.

If plank swaps back and Elbirn states intent to hammer, we'll have something.
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Post Post #604 (ISO) » Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:49 pm

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In post 591, Saudade wrote:
In post 589, UltimatePlank wrote:
In post 586, Saudade wrote:I also happen to be the best player in the table so sheep me
So good that you can barely get a wagon on the player you want.

Intent to hammer Looker.
if you hammer Looker now you're going to eat rope tomorrow
VOTE: Looker
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Post Post #605 (ISO) » Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:50 pm

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In post 601, Elbirn wrote: This game state sucks but I'm not lynching someone because "man play game bad, bad game play man badman"
"this is also my opinion thanks for having it" - psyche
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Post Post #606 (ISO) » Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:50 pm

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oh wait that's not hammer?

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Post Post #607 (ISO) » Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:52 pm

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In post 596, Zote the Mighty wrote:
In post 575, Wake1 wrote:Thoughts on Saudade being Scum?

Either he's really dumb or dishonest Town, or he's not-so-subtle Scum.
I still think Saudade is town at this point. I don't like his playstyle, but his intentions come from the right place I think.
hot take: looker is scum with saudade and wake is town

if looker flips scum i'm just gonna say elements is lazy as fuck town
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Post Post #608 (ISO) » Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:52 pm

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someone hammer let's go
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Post Post #609 (ISO) » Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:52 pm

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H A M M E R
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Post Post #610 (ISO) » Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:55 pm

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i wanna 1v1 saudade tomorrow
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Post Post #611 (ISO) » Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:23 pm

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VOTE: Looker
"It's wise to be... cautious... with Wake."
— House*
"What Wake lacks in charisma, he makes up for it in pure analytic power."
— Nosferatu*
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Post Post #612 (ISO) » Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:28 pm

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In post 611, Wake1 wrote:VOTE: Looker
FOOL!

I guess I should not be surprised given your opening statement. But if this flips town, I will slay you!
Know this cur! I am Zote the Mighty, a knight of great renown! Cross me, and you will find out why they call my weapon Life Ender!
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Post Post #613 (ISO) » Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:33 pm

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:lol:
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Post Post #614 (ISO) » Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:34 pm

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That's not a hammer.. Looker was already on there.

We need Elbirn (cos saudade clearly isnt) to states intent to hammer and Looker to claim already
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Post Post #615 (ISO) » Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:41 pm

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Sorry fam I don't have the murderboner that you all do

Also yall are way too eager for claims, maybe that's just how the mini normal queue do but it's bad gameplay
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Post Post #616 (ISO) » Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:46 pm

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I mean gotta claim before hammer, I wouldn't say thats way too eager?

Also deadline in like 3 days, we won't learn shit without a flip.
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Post Post #617 (ISO) » Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:53 pm

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In post 616, alimdia wrote:I mean gotta claim before hammer, I wouldn't say thats way too eager?

Also deadline in like 3 days, we won't learn shit without a flip.
But people have been insisting on a claim for *days*, even at L-2 and no intent. Playing like that is just going to out power roles and I'm not used to people being like that. In other games people would be shitting down each others throats for that.

I'll hammer over a deadline of course and Looker knows he has to claim at this point, but I have some misgivings.
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Post Post #618 (ISO) » Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:54 pm

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Lol.
"It's wise to be... cautious... with Wake."
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"What Wake lacks in charisma, he makes up for it in pure analytic power."
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Post Post #619 (ISO) » Thu Nov 14, 2019 5:01 pm

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In post 605, UltimatePlank wrote:
In post 601, Elbirn wrote: This game state sucks but I'm not lynching someone because "man play game bad, bad game play man badman"
"this is also my opinion thanks for having it" - psyche
Plank are you Psyche, that would be rly fun
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Post Post #620 (ISO) » Thu Nov 14, 2019 5:57 pm

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In post 587, Zote the Mighty wrote:Sorry I've been gone a while. I found a great beast in the depths of Hallownest and slayed it with my weapon, 'Life Ender!' I will catch up soon.
thoughts on wagons?
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Post Post #621 (ISO) » Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:34 pm

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In post 619, Elbirn wrote:
In post 605, UltimatePlank wrote:
In post 601, Elbirn wrote: This game state sucks but I'm not lynching someone because "man play game bad, bad game play man badman"
"this is also my opinion thanks for having it" - psyche
Plank are you Psyche, that would be rly fun
i'm just quoting him

i ain't claimin' no makin' money from these quotin'
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Post Post #622 (ISO) » Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:34 pm

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don't report me for copyright infringement :'(
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Post Post #623 (ISO) » Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:12 pm

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So it’s friday and there have been at least 2 double votes

This basically tells us looker should claim I think
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Post Post #624 (ISO) » Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:14 pm

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In post 623, profii wrote:So it’s friday and there have been at least 2 double votes

This basically tells us looker should claim I think
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