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[Farkran]

As for Egix, i'm having a hard time believing he is scum due to how day 1 rolled out. He was the highest RVS wagon, then he was one of the main wagons before Garmr happened. We now believe SS is town, tchill and garmr flipped town, which means the wagon against SS was either full town (from my POV, but you believe what you believe) or 3 town + scum!sheeps.

This points to egix being town though?

I meant this points to egix being scum. Wagon deflected on to garmr from him because???

It's menalque and PP who deflected that wagon though (1199, 1098, 1141), and now they resumed it. I don't like going there before i get a flip on them.

It was an rvs wagon though so what's the deal here?

Egix had more than one wagon against him during d1. I was talking about non-RVS there.

[Farkran]

(i'm usually not into this but i claimed three consecutive pagetops)

[Flubbernugget]

As for Egix, i'm having a hard time believing he is scum due to how day 1 rolled out. He was the highest RVS wagon, then he was one of the main wagons before Garmr happened. We now believe SS is town, tchill and garmr flipped town, which means the wagon against SS was either full town (from my POV, but you believe what you believe) or 3 town + scum!sheeps.

This points to egix being town though?

I meant this points to egix being scum. Wagon deflected on to garmr from him because???

What makes you think that egix is scum and that the wagons that formed on him was deflected to garmr's mislynch. What in formation of garmr lynch makes you think this or do you simply scum read some of the players that moved from egix to garmr before his lynch.

If you think egix is scum what do you think of his earlier voter of which you were one ( as in ealier in day one)

I don't think much of anything from the egix rvs wagon because it was rvs. But if you're going to try and read something out of it you've got to stretch your logic to read egix as town from it

[Farkran]

VC 1.10

Egix96 (4):

Something Smart 566, PenguinPower 636, bob3141 641, benhalkum 750

Something_Smart (3):

sheepsaysmeep 423, Farkran 468, Garmr 544

Flubbernugget (2):

ofrhz 347, GeorgeBailey 486

Lil Uzi Vert (2):

Flubbernugget 471, Tchill13 666

GeorgeBailey (1):

Egix96 770

Not Voting:

Lil Uzi Vert 169

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-11-06 00:00:00)

PenguinPower replaces Detective Penguin by request.

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This wagon

[benhalkum]

Dodging a prod. Not going la/v as I’m checking in. Just unable to read through everything and reply atm.

[sheepsaysmeep]

What's the ellitell?

Being active in other games while not being active in this one

hi

dont do this

Do you mean don’t use the ellitell?

also dont use outside of game things in general

[Menalque]

What's the ellitell?

Being active in other games while not being active in this one

hi

dont do this

Do you mean don’t use the ellitell?

also dont use outside of game things in general

Why not? I’ve been successfully caught on the ellitell before

[Menalque]

I keep going back and forth on farkran tbh, but rn I think he’s more likely to be town with bad reads?

Could you explain which of my reads are bad, and why? Do not include yourself ofc, obviously you're reading yourself as town and it would be pointless to say i have bad reads based on my read of you specifically.

Yeah, this is actually a fair point, I think they may not be that bad outside of me

In other news I’m reconsidering my read on penguin

[benhalkum]

What's the ellitell?

Being active in other games while not being active in this one

hi

dont do this

Do you mean don’t use the ellitell?

also dont use outside of game things in general

Why not? I’ve been successfully caught on the ellitell before

Every game is different. Every level of participation is different due to how the games going. Same reason I don’t care for meta reading.

[bob3141]

So farkum are you saying that PP and sheep jumped onto garmr to prevent an alternative wago forming on menal in response to his push on garmr. As that would mean a menal , pp and sheep scum team. Not sure where the ben bit comes in

Only me, Egix and Garmr were considering a Menalque wagon around the end of d1, but we didn't coordinate the effort because Menalque filled the thread with spamposting. I was personally very mad at the time because of this.

My reasoning against Menalque is that he put too much immotivate effort to push the lynch against Garmr. While it is true that scum!menalque didn't NEED to start a new wagon, it is also true that no scum was achieving anything in d1. I don't believe the whole scumteam would be sleeping and accept a no-lynch, unless the scumbloc was entirely composed of lurkers (of which George Bailey was one of the main representatives).

If i am wrong on Menalque though, sheeps and PP joined the wagon for no reason too. And Ben quickhammered, but that looks more like antitown than scummy.

TL;DR i don't know the precise scumteam composition, but i'd say all of those 4 have great scum equity, much moreso than the people outside the wagon.

So why do you think if menal is scum that he woudl push a new wagon and not simply push a player that already had wagon on him?

[Farkran]

So why do you think if menal is scum that he woudl push a new wagon and not simply push a player that already had wagon on him?

This is the same counter-reasoning offered by Rabid, but my problem with it is that i don't know what scum was doing before menalque replaced in. Why the garmr wagon was a success whereas SS and Egix were not?

Assume town!SS and scum!Egix. Why didn't scum push SS stronger?

Assume town!SS and town!Egix. Why didn't scum push either of them? Or perhaps they failed because in this scenario they pushed both, then they regrouped against garmr? This would be plausible with a {sheeps, PP, Ben} gamesolve with Menalque being town who is only guilty of pushing a new wagon too strong (which is why i thought he was reaction-testing).

[tris]

Replacing Lil Uzi Vert.

[Farkran]

Ok so... we have one pending replacement (LUV), three players over their prod timer but active elsewhere (SS and Egix in other games, PP modding), one prodge (Ben).

What are we going to do? @SS you still confident flubber is scum? I'd rather do PP now.

[Something_Smart]

I've never been confident anyone was scum this game.

[Something_Smart]

Probably wouldn't be opposed to PP.

[Farkran]

VOTE: PP

[Egix96]

Ok so... we have one pending replacement (LUV), three players over their prod timer but active elsewhere (SS and Egix in other games, PP modding), one prodge (Ben).

What are we going to do? @SS you still confident flubber is scum? I'd rather do PP now.

Haven't really had anything to add lately

[bob3141]

Rabid if we do Ben today and he scumflips, will you sheep my read on egix?

At this point I wouldn't.

Why not?

Because I don't think egix is scum.

What has lead you to teh conclusion that egix is scum. Cant realy see much in your posts to base what you have made that read off. All i can see is general things like you read his ISO ect. But what in his ISO lead you to that belief

[PenguinPower]

PP also provided zero reasons to jump on the wagon other than it being "the top wagon at the time", going as far as denying vanity wagons on Menalque.

Correct. Because we were hours away from a no lynch and the alternative was S_S. Yes, I said vanity wagons were bad at that point (they were).

[Farkran]

PP also provided zero reasons to jump on the wagon other than it being "the top wagon at the time", going as far as denying vanity wagons on Menalque.

Correct. Because we were hours away from a no lynch and the alternative was S_S. Yes, I said vanity wagons were bad at that point (they were).

So is it safe to say you voted Garmr just because it was convenient, instead of scumreading him? What's your reasoning for following George/Menalque, who started a wagon 24h to deadline instead of pushing SS or Egix?

[PenguinPower]

I voted Garmr because it was the alternative to a no lynch. I was not scum reading his slot. I left Egix once Garmr became the better chance for a lynch. Why would I push S_S when I town read him?

[PenguinPower]

I feel I'm a record at this point and it's fairly obnoxious.

[Farkran]

I voted Garmr because it was the alternative to a no lynch. I was not scum reading his slot. I left Egix once Garmr became the better chance for a lynch. Why would I push S_S when I town read him?

Are you townreading menalque?

[PenguinPower]

I think he's more likely town than not at the moment.

[Farkran]

I think he's more likely town than not at the moment.

Why?