In post 2447, bob3141 wrote:
You vote pret day one after the wagon has already dissipated. With no actual push on him.
Tris is at l-2. A wagon that does not have pret on it. The alternative lynch and the player activly pressuring skitter to vote tris.
If your vote was genuine there would of been an actual push on pret. And it woudl have been earlier. Instead you have your vote loitering on bef in that crucial time.
Sigh, we had this conversation 1-2 times already.
Just because there is another wagon without Pret on it (it was predictable he would have gone there to save his own skin anyway) doesn't mean I have to join that wagon. If I would have decided during my reread on tris otherwise, then maybe I could have, but not like that at that time. I had Pret in my D1 lynchpool and at the end of the day he was the lynch I would have preferred, so I voted him. Maybe I didn't pushed it strongly, but I dont know either what else I should have done besides parroting myself, I said my reasons for voting and was fine with leaving my vote on him.
I told you already why I didn't went there earlier. It's not my fault that Bef needed two days to respond to me and I dislike to let people off the hook just for disappearing without finding any good reason by myself.
In post 2447, bob3141 wrote:
Then you have your salad vote. You are on him when he is at 3 votes but you jump on ben as soon as he votes salad. Only then to jump back on him when salad gets to l-3. All the whiel you never actual try and question him. You just keep using it to talk about how he is scum with pret.
1574 You talk about how you are trying to probe pret. Yet you rejoing the salad wagon when you had the choice to have voted a50. Even though in post
1674 you say he is trying to avoid pret. In other words you are saying a50 and pret are partners. Yet you lynch the player you said you partly voted for to probe pret whom you think is partnered with A50. And you dont vote A50. You never voted for pret that day.
Ok, hold on.
First ben hadn't voted for Saladman yet at that point, so I don't know what you are talking about. And yeah, I went to ben when Saladman went there. As I said the Saladman wagon wasn't going anywhere and his ben vote surprised me a bit as I was expecting a suvivalistic vote on A50 as it looked he was gearing up to go there before, so that was a townie point for him that I gave him the benefit of doubt then and ben was also in my scumpool (#
1488).
When I left the ben wagon I wanted to wait to hear more from ben to see what he had to say about the most recent developments as I was suspecting him to be a PR. After that there were only Saladman and A50 as viable wagons left. And I said that I didn't felt any strong scum vibes from A50 besides some minor things. In fact if he would have been scum, then it was dependent on Pret being scum too and at that point of the game I wasn't convinced anymore about Pret being scum (again #
1488), more tending town at that point as a good part of my D2 was arguing with him. Pret/A50 avoiding each other was an observation in #
1764 that made me wary, but still I wasn't thinking of Pret as scum there nor was I scumreading A50 more than Saladman.
So obviously I go rather to the Salad wagon, there is no reason to pursue a wagon I am not convinced of.
Not trying to question Saladman and talking only how he is scum with Pret? Sure, if you leave any context out. I literally started questioning Saladman right out of the gate on D2 about his strange heel turn read on tris on D1, not only once (#
1059), not twice (#
1300), but thrice (#
1350) and he avoided me everytime. At one point the point is reached where I have enough of it and vote or leave my vote there, which I did once I was done arguing with Pret. Similarly with LUV on D4 pre-claim. Btw I only said it once that Saladman could be scum with Pret and that scenario was only one part of the reason why I voted him too, not even major, you are trying to make here more out of a rand remark than it was.
In post 2447, bob3141 wrote:
But you go from saying there partners to defending him in the same post. So we have you not once directly trying to interact with salad yet happy to rejoin it. While your are defending the player that is the alternative lynch.
You say you dont like those voting for salad yet you still vote for him.
And your response to mizzy questioning of you voting for ben. Is that salad wasnt going through so you voted ben. Other than giving the reason you originaly voted sald to prob vet, you only say salad lynch wasnt going anywhere. You then go on about a50 and pret.
Now you are just misrepping me here, or even blatantly lying. I never defended A50 on D2. I said three things about A50, once that I thought A50 was tied to Pret till that point (#
1488), but as I wasn't thinking of scum!Pret there, so I had to reevaluate as I had to with BEF. Second
1574 where I was saying what is scummy to me about A50 and why I thought ben was scummier to me. I didn't went on A50/Pret there, so I don't know what you mean. The only scenario where I could have seen Pret as scum was with Saladman/LUv at that point. And third #
1764 my observation about A50/Pret. And I just explained why I went for Saladman. None of these were defending A50 against anyone, having others as higher scumreads and voting elsewhere is no defending. That you are trying to paint this image of me here is pretty telling.
Having people on a wagon who I don't feel good about isn't a strong criterion to not vote there, otherwise I could probably never vote anyone. I said myself that I might overthink things with Pret and several people said about BEF that it is normal for him to appear that scummy. Also bussing is also a thing. The wagon composition doesn't changed the fact that I was scumreading Saladman stronger than A50.
