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[PenguinPower]

Votecount 1.14

Wake88

(5): Dunnstral, davesaz, Zote the Mighty, PMysterious, Reundo

Vorkuta

(3): Layla, Wake88, Fish Monger

NorwegianboyEE

(3): Billy Pilgrim, Tea, Luca Blight

Luca Blight

(2): Chemist1422, NorwegianboyEE

Tea

(2): Gamma Emerald, Almost50

Dunnstral

(1): Vorkuta

davesaz

(1): splitfarvle

Not Voting

(1): Flavor Leaf

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch.

Deadline

: Frozen at 3 days pending replacement.

[Dunnstral]

Most people alive right now are town, I don't think that means anything

[Luca Blight]

I'd prefer to lynch Wake or Vork

Idk about Vork but between Wake and Tea I definitely prefer lynching Tea. It looked like his wagon has been deflating while others have gained traction.

That’s because he’s been looking more Townie.

[Chemist1422]

Most people alive right now are town, I don't think that means anything

Sorry but what the heck does this post even mean

[Dunnstral]

Most people alive right now are town, I don't think that means anything

Sorry but what the heck does this post even mean

That looking at "wagon resistance" at a scale of 1-2 votes being moved when there are 18 players alive is very misguided, at worst

To be clearer, saying that Tea's wagon has been "deflating" isn't a reason to think that tea is scum

[Dunnstral]

And even if it was, one of those votes that moved off was Vorkuta anyway.

[Luca Blight]

town
{Chemist Billy}
{Layla GE}
---
{Luca Reundo}
{Vork Norwegian}
scum

there's a pretty big difference between the tiers separated by the line btw.

It's funny, at the time of this post I could hardly have disagreed more with these reads.

I'm still wondering why Chemist is a strong TR, though.

[Luca Blight]

VOTE: reundo

Also curious about this vote.

[Luca Blight]

Nevermind I see these points were answered later on.

[Luca Blight]

I basically disagree with everything Tea said in the first half of his ISO and agree with everything he's said in the second half.

I feel like he's putting effort into actually sorting people and his reads aren't always convenient, so I feel pretty good about this slot atm.

[davesaz]

Saw a request for town reads -- here you go, no particular order for strength other than knowing my alignment .
davesaz
Luca Blight
Almost50
Gamma Emerald
Zote the Mighty

Norwegian might be town. I didn't like the early reluctance to vote, when at that time a vote meant very little. Later posting is good but I tend to have reservations about the possibility that it's a recovery tactic.

Talk about Zote and maybe Luca.

For Zote, 364 thru 369 looked town motivated to me.
Luca has had lots of sorty behavior, do you really need it to be pointed out? I have noticed the comments about him changing reads -- I'd town read that more than someone who doesn't re-evaluate according to changing circumstances.

Norwegian has continued to look better. I think I'm ready to just call that town.

[Tea]

I no longer feel strongly about my Chemist town read, mostly because his impression on me has gone from town to... nonexistent

[Flavor Leaf]

Y’all crazy why wake da lead wagon

[Gamma Emerald]

I'd prefer to lynch Wake or Vork

Idk about Vork but between Wake and Tea I definitely prefer lynching Tea. It looked like his wagon has been deflating while others have gained traction.

That’s because he’s been looking more Townie.

I actually think there is a very solid point against Tea when it comes to how Tea is using meta on Nor. Honestly you need to expand on this because I feel like Tea has looked more scummy.

Most people alive right now are town, I don't think that means anything

Sorry but what the heck does this post even mean

That looking at "wagon resistance" at a scale of 1-2 votes being moved when there are 18 players alive is very misguided, at worst

To be clearer, saying that Tea's wagon has been "deflating" isn't a reason to think that tea is scum

I guess with the last VC my concerns there are a little dulled because I felt like Wake specifically got rather popular but I seem to have been wrong there

I no longer feel strongly about my Chemist town read, mostly because his impression on me has gone from town to... nonexistent

And this is a BS read
Tea, you wanna explain why you are reading people like this? At the very least this is a bad way to play the game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: tea
I’ll expand more on why Tea is scum later. Just want to get my vote out.

[NorwegianboyEE]

The benefits of voting you outweigh the harms

In particular you seem not to be playing in good faith... so there's really no point not voting you.

Also, voting you is more likely to make that change than not voting you, and you're also really likely to be scum. So

This is just absolute bullshit and i don't think you even believe what you're saying right now. Obviously you have to stand by what you said as scum, but truth is your case is awful and just an excuse to vote me. I don't believe any of it was made in good faith whatsoever.

[NorwegianboyEE]

"Like I know this seems based off of meta but the takeaway is that he's trying to artificially establish a presence in a scum-motivated way without really getting called out/noticed for it"

Like wtf does this even mean? What about my play is scum-motivated? You seem to be avoiding saying anything of substance and just repeating "oh his play is scum-motivated". Well you actually have to explain WHY my play is scum-motivated.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ok, the content is better, but I still don't like the way you're saying it

It feels... off

You really don't have anything better to say do you? Apparently all you can muster is that something is "off".
What exactly is "off"?

[NorwegianboyEE]

"Like I know this seems based off of meta but the takeaway is that he's trying to artificially establish a presence in a scum-motivated way without really getting called out/noticed for it"

And what's the deal with the quotation marks? Did you copy this from the scum pt or something?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Never mind it was from your case post lel.

[Luca Blight]

NorwegianboyEE, it feels like you’re just attacking whoever attacks you. You vote Tea after he suspects you. You then vote me after I vote you. Tea then expands on his suspicion of you and you’re back on him again. It’s all very reactive.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm primarily attacking Tea right now because his vote feels the most dishonest.

[Luca Blight]

Why is it more dishonest than mine?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Because of his case and the posts he made afterwards. His argumentation isn't genuine. I could still see you as possibly town Luca Blight, even though i have my suspicions. But Tea feels like he's been doing nothing but scumpost since i had my spout with you.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Tea then expands on his suspicion of you and you’re back on him again. It’s all very reactive.

Is it though? I held back on Tea while he had the most votes and now i'm back on him again when he's gotten less votes because i'm very suspicious of his content. If i really was reactive i would be pushing for why Wake is scum. If you knew he wasn't my scum partner (which he isn't) then this makes a whole lot of sense.