The Sixth Fortnight (Game Over)

[Vecna]

lets just hang him and win the game in like 22 minutes

[Untrod Tripod]

I dunno man what if he claims town

[Vecna]

I demand everyone to come in here and proclaim a solid townread on me.

if not, mockery will followoeowowow

wow

[Vecna]

after this, till be impossible to scumread me and not loose face.

im a force of nature. Ill landslide all over your silly village

##recognize

[Vecna]

such confidence. better believe. yeyeyeye-yes

[Espeonage]

This has been a weak derail.

I kinda want another anteater game.

[Vecna]

I got some ants for you.

Ill trade em for a townread and a solemn vow you wont release the townread for the rest of the game...

SO WHATS UP EH. YOU REALLY WAN T SOME ANTS?sssssssssssssssssssss

[Espeonage]

Sure,

but know I have a history of voting town reads in lylo. So I'm probs doing similar here if it comes to it.

[Ramcius]

Well then, I'll explain rules for new people:

1. Don't get lynched. You die - you lose
2. Pray that your scumread won't run away, so giving away your scumread isn't best idea

Ofc, you're thinking that our goal is to lynch scum and all that, but think realistically - how likely is to hit scum in 15v2 setup, where everyone play for survival instead of trying lynch their scumread?

[Salamence20]

lets just hang him and win the game in like 22 minutes

Stuff like this ends up being more correct than not in hindsight.

@Ramicus: Given what you said in 58, does DDL’s 35 look good to you?

[Ramcius]

lets just hang him and win the game in like 22 minutes

Stuff like this ends up being more correct than not in hindsight.

@Ramicus: Given what you said in 58, does DDL’s 35 look good to you?

I don't see anything wrong with it - it's not unusual to keep your reads for post lynch in this game

[Klick]

Well then, I'll explain rules for new people:

1. Don't get lynched. You die - you lose
2. Pray that your scumread won't run away, so giving away your scumread isn't best idea

Ofc, you're thinking that our goal is to lynch scum and all that, but think realistically - how likely is to hit scum in 15v2 setup, where everyone play for survival instead of trying lynch their scumread?

Still more likely than 13v1 where those conditions are the same. Town is much more likely to win by lynching scum D1 in this setup. If we let someone powerlynch their scumread then we're all better off for it, no?

[Klick]

VOTE: PenguinPower

[Salamence20]

anyhow i said it because i want to warn everyone that ill be doing little to nothing this game due to my winning strat. I might share it with you guys by day end if you are nice.

I dont read this as “im not sharing my reads,” Ramicus.

[Ramcius]

Well then, I'll explain rules for new people:

1. Don't get lynched. You die - you lose
2. Pray that your scumread won't run away, so giving away your scumread isn't best idea

Ofc, you're thinking that our goal is to lynch scum and all that, but think realistically - how likely is to hit scum in 15v2 setup, where everyone play for survival instead of trying lynch their scumread?

Still more likely than 13v1 where those conditions are the same. Town is much more likely to win by lynching scum D1 in this setup. If we let someone powerlynch their scumread then we're all better off for it, no?

It happened once in 5 games, so 20% town winrate on D1.

We will lynch someone, don't you worry about that, thing is that chances for our lynch to flip red is slim. Also, you have to consider how likely it is for 8 other people to agree with your scumread? Not likely, therefore you can just wait for post lynch and submit your scumread without care about other people - you don't need majority, you don't need consensus, only to guess scum correctly and you have scum flip to go on

[Ramcius]

anyhow i said it because i want to warn everyone that ill be doing little to nothing this game due to my winning strat. I might share it with you guys by day end if you are nice.

I dont read this as “im not sharing my reads,” Ramicus.

He literally said he'll do little to nothing, to me it looks like he isn't sharing his reads

[Salamence20]

It looks to me like he doesnt intend on being an active participant.

[Ramcius]

It looks to me like he doesnt intend on being an active participant.

I will try a bit different way to explain you - people don't really care for who gets lynched as long as they aren't the lynch. Logic behind this is simple - why do I have try to convince 8 people that I'm right, when I can just submit name after lynch happens and I have more info and being active will attract attention, which might lead to your lynch - being lynched is game over, cause you can't submit name afterwards. That said most people will do nothing and only post lynch we will get some quality discussion

[Klick]

It happened once in 5 games, so 20% town winrate on D1.

I haven't done the math, but I'm pretty sure the Private Investigator winrate is much lower than 20%.

Town's odds of winning this are admittedly low, but are much higher if they genuinely try their hardest to get scum lynched D1.

Getting reads out there also gives valuable information based on the flip if we get it wrong.

[Salamence20]

Imma just repeat what Klick just said above.

We should be playing this game like a normal game until the first lynch.

Hiding/withholding info at this time seems somewhat detrimental. Id rather win this game as a team before becoming a FFA.

Id rather have most of the cards on the table before we lynch. I know why some people will disagree with me (because of the flee/bribe mechanics), but given the playerlist town’s odds are probably higher than what you and DDL think.

[Espeonage]

It happened once in 5 games, so 20% town winrate on D1.

I haven't done the math, but I'm pretty sure the Private Investigator winrate is much lower than 20%.

Town's odds of winning this are admittedly low, but are much higher if they genuinely try their hardest to get scum lynched D1.

Getting reads out there also gives valuable information based on the flip if we get it wrong.

Yeah but Klick.

If YOU are the GOLDEN CHILD with PERFECT READS, you win by lynching and then correctly

guessing

knowing the FUCKING NERD SCUM and WINNING for GLORY.

You wouldn't understand bc you are not an INTELLECTUAL. I only play FortSHITE (hahahahahahahaha) ironically.

[Ramcius]

I'm not stopping you from trying to powerlynch your scumread or anything, you can do all you like, I'm just giving you idea how this thing works, cause it's 3rd time I do this

Getting scumreads out before lynch doesn't give any advantages, we'll have 48 hours after flip and flee for a discussion, so alerting scum about your suspicion before they flee isn't best idea, if they aren't getting lynched. Getting out your townreads is different matter and you should do that, if your strong townread is getting wagoned

[Klick]

Oh shit yeah I forgot, it's way cooler to make a galaxy brain guess and win on your own.

Hmm.

PEdit: except it definitely does give an advantage to talk about your scumreads before you try to lynch scum

[Ramcius]

I'll, clarify - people will discuss scumreads, don't you worry about that. But those not going to be their top scumreads, there is no real benefit winning as a team and convincing people to agree with you is hard

[Salamence20]

I'll, clarify - people will discuss scumreads, don't you worry about that. But those not going to be their top scumreads, there is no real benefit winning as a team and convincing people to agree with you is hard

Then why play mafia in general.

Getting people to lynch your scumreads is the objective of the game?