Open 769: Venrob's PYP X/Y (Town Wins)

[skitter30]

Like convincing people means nothing bc it was a 1 hose race until skit reignited billy. I guess she maybe tells Suji to jump on for vaca wifom idk.

no, if i'm scum with billy and suji and the plan is bus billy i tell suji to get on really early instead of doing a half-assed hammer that wouldnt' have given him town cred

[skitter30]

The point is we agree skit is very very like as close as possible to lock level likely scum here. This wagon mechanics debate has no bearing on gamestate at all.

explain how i'm 'very very like as close as possible to lock level likely scum', ty

[skitter30]

Regarding the above, I haven’t checked for associatives yet but I have a feeling about Skitter/Suji, and they claimed the same brackets.

... and i tell my partner to claim the same brackets as me because

[skitter30]

I would rather VOTE: skitter. The evidence is stronger here. Anyway no Aaron on flubs next night.

do tell

[skitter30]

If Flubs is telling the truth then the most likely scenario i can see is someone attempting to NK SS, and Skitter is already claiming a night action on SS...

so scum!me thinks this is a good idea to claim because ...
the things you're suggesting i'm doing are kinda ridiculous

[Sirfetchd]

Your claim is BS and you know it.

This game is going to feel like pulling teeth if we twiddle thumbs on flub and skit and let them both get soap boxes.

[skitter30]

Actually I have another theory. It is not the best one but raises the chance of innocent flub.
In the truth wooper is vengeful not vigi. Scumteam killed xaya to clear his role and wooper is the one who performed fractional kill on n2. Skitter was the one who made n1 kill. Skitter was unlikely to be tracked but on n2 it was better for wooper to be tracked.

In any case Aaron looks to be inno. Sorry man I was wrong.

um no

i don't entirely understand why you're making up tinfoil hat theories to try to explain what happened to the nk and trying to look for reasons that could make flub look good when the simplest explanation for what happened to the nk is that he got rb'd

[skitter30]

Your claim is BS and you know it.

This game is going to feel like pulling teeth if we twiddle thumbs on flub and skit and let them both get soap boxes.

no, it isn't, ty

[skitter30]

why exactly do you think i'm mechanically scum here ... ?

[skitter30]

I'm leaning more on the associates being Flub/Skitter. Flub tried to perform the kill and failed because he got jailed. Only way I could think of Skitter performing the night kill is if she tried to kill SS and if she did tried to kill SS, then she would have invested someone else.

can you explain this again please?

[skitter30]

Actually it's not even policy. He's been playing like a scum pgo and he claimed pgo.

p much

[skitter30]

skitter I can see doing this as either alignment tbqh. I had a reasonably strong reason for thinking she was town yday but I kinda forgot it. I might need to reread some. Regardless the most concerning thing I *think* is how difficult her n1 result crumb is to follow

since apparently no one got it i'll have to be more explicit next time

[skitter30]

There's also a "scum no-killed" option somewhere in there, either for shits and giggles or out of complete apathy.

i mean ... i don't think this is particularly likely

[skitter30]

gunsmith innos in this game aren't really hard innos; at that point i was still kinda scum-reading him on play but wasn't particularly interested in pushing him given the result, so he ended up ~nullscum

given the cop claim he's p much clear now tho

This actually makes sense if skitt thought there was a chance of me being a scum doc.

What was with the 'Aaron might be a N2 vig' then?

you were softing that day2 and didn't really see a reason not to let you do your thing since we were probably massclaiming today anyways

[Sirfetchd]

Bc your results do not match your play.

You fucked up, that's fine, it happens. But this trying to pull wool over our eyes doesn't work if you have no wool. There is no chance I am believing you gunsmithed Aaron night 1 then spent actual time calling him null-scum while he was one of the top wagons.

[skitter30]

Didn't skitter win as scum by clearing a townie recently?

yep, i'm p proud of how that game turned out
mini normal 2101 i think; it was skygazer's game and i was scum with robb and it was great

[skitter30]

Bc your results do not match your play.

You fucked up, that's fine, it happens. But this trying to pull wool over our eyes doesn't work if you have no wool. There is no chance I am believing you gunsmithed Aaron night 1 then spent actual time calling him null-scum while he was one of the top wagons.

i was v strongly against the wagon and i wouldn't have let it gone through if it had the potential to acutally, like, lynch him

[Sirfetchd]

I don't need to engage you tbh, you're dying anyway.

Pedit: Sure Jan

[skitter30]

Don't clear skitter mechanically unless she's cop inno'd friends /o/
she's the deepwolf and she knows it!

indeed

[Luca Blight]

Yes, Skitter in that game got lucky and literally guessed I was VT after fake-claiming role-cop, and that’s another reason I think she could have attempted to NK SS and claim an unsuccessful result instead.

Will catch up on the other posts in a bit.

[skitter30]

I don't need to engage you tbh, you're dying anyway.

Pedit: Sure Jan

no, i think you're see that other people are scumreading me and taking the oppurtunity to shade me to see if you can set me up as a mislynch; you're trying to sell the notion that i'm mechanically lockscum when i most definitively am not

[skitter30]

Duck, skit and flub are like both super scum. We do one today and the other tomorrow. I don't think it makes a difference who which is why I didn't move agree skits claim. Both are like 99.99999999999 percent scum bc afaik skit doesn't suffer amnesia episodes and flub was the only blocked person on a kill less night.

oh here you're doing it again, you're calling me as scummy as the guy you have a jk-guilty on

[skitter30]

Whatever was wrong with her claim, her activity nosedived after being called out and it's not a weekend

no, i've had a very busy week irl this week, ty; my activity has been down across the board

[skitter30]

Yes, Skitter in that game got lucky and literally guessed I was VT after fake-claiming role-cop, and that’s another reason I think she could have attempted to NK SS and claim an unsuccessful result instead.

Will catch up on the other posts in a bit.

i mean i'd never claim unsuccssful result on a night that a nk is very obviously missing, but ok

[Luca Blight]

In the other game you literally guessed I was VT, and if you were wrong it would have confirmed you as scum.

That is riskier than claiming no result on SS.