Mini Normal 2108 : 1st game

[Tchill13]

Rabid "gotta catch scum tchill early cus he gets better"

Garmr "aha I actually got you" after I vote him.

Tchill "well the odds state the individual im having a discussion with is mathematically probably town. I should approach the convo from this pov instead of (possible scum thats fooling me) or (I'm too good to be fooled by this guy he's totally scum)"

[Garmr]

Rabid "gotta catch scum tchill early cus he gets better"

Garmr "aha I actually got you" after I vote him.

Tchill "well the odds state the individual im having a discussion with is mathematically probably town. I should approach the convo from this pov instead of (possible scum thats fooling me) or (I'm too good to be fooled by this guy he's totally scum)"

Don't use your math mumbo jumbo on me witch I shall not be fooled.

[Garmr]

Your vote on wake was opportunistic and worthless. The only reason was to lynch a lurker.

Your vote on me was opportunistic

as well as it seems to be trying to appeal to bob and isn't deep. Thus your pandering to Bob means Bob is clear during your scum flip.

You say my reasoning was weak but

you can't debate them so you avoid actually bringing them up

. Because that would draw attention to you.

1) that wake vote never makes wake get lynched. ever. So saying im voting to lynch is outlandish.

2) just because you disagree with an action doesnt mean its oppurtunistic. Other than bob nobody hardly mentioned you. Bob hasnt exactly been a strong town voice.

3) I avoid bringing them up because I skimmed them and they seemed pointless but its important for me to actually try to understand your pov to work with you and give a reason as to why you're incorrectly seeing the things you're seeing. The miscommunication between garmr and tchill. So i went back and read.

1. I said the wake vote was opportunistic not it would get him lynched. Did you think my being the secound on the wagon would get you lynched.?

2. The same applies to you bud Just because I voted you and you don't like it doesn't mean it's opportunistic. You haven't described why or how so it seems like buzz words to me.

3.I disagree with them being pointless but I can understand you trying to see from my pov as I try that to do that to.

[BrightEyedFish]

There's been a stomach bug travelling around my house and hit me as well. But we're in the clear now. Catchup post(s) impending...

[BrightEyedFish]

Here are the most active players atm:

Robbnva
Tchill13

Rabid
Hectic
skitter

These groups are grouped by number of posts. Robb and tchill are way ahead of the other 3. With the rest of the players (including myself) are far behind in terms of shear quantity.
Alone these stats are nothing we can use to sort the players. However, scum has to been within these 5 players probably even multiple scums.

My wake vote started as a RVS and I just parked it there because I wasn't opposed, but wake is MIA now. If I wanted to vote a lurker I would think wake would be the closest to scum. But I'm more interested in the active posters now so:

UNVOTE:

but...

I do think at least one wake's scumbuddies would be picking up the slack in the active posters list.

Hectic's 344 feels an awful lot like coaching to me...

VOTE: Hectic

[BrightEyedFish]

im usually extremely inconsistent and if youve made statements similar but im completely igonring youre posts...

then im not seeing the statements. so i cant push you for those statements.

So you're just not reading my posts then?
(After the whole 'skitter is gud' thing?)

I've also given reads on bef and rabid on the previous page.
Hectic gut town, robb is scummy

Skitter is town.

[BrightEyedFish]

So you're just not reading my posts then?
(After the whole 'skitter is gud' thing?)

I've also given reads on bef and rabid on the previous page.
Hectic gut town, robb is scummy

im scum independent of robb though?

and i tend to ignore wall of china posts.

Posts like these make me want to SR tchill but I don't feel a case can be built right now. I just think all of tchill's posts have a inkling of scum in every post in every game.

[BrightEyedFish]

EBWOP

*can't be built

[BrightEyedFish]

Ok then

A) i strongly disagree that i'm manipulating what you're saying to make it look bad, i dont understand what you're saying and why you're making the pushes you are, you dont make sense and what you're pushing isnt consistent

B) you're scummy independant of robb, i'm not sure i agree with the assumption that scum!robb means you cant be scum, which is what your current argument is based on

C) i dont get why you arent pushing me for saying i want to sheep you on robb, you're basically ignoring that while pushing rabid for nearly the same thing

Do I have to choose between skitter and tchill now?

[BrightEyedFish]

it's really annoying, and scummy when a player says players are scummy without explaining why even when asked. It is also annoying when a player doesn't explain why they are town reading people and when shown really damning evidence to counter the town read and is asked to comment on it, ignores it completlt.

I have revised my lynch list to rabid/skitter/hectic/wake in that order. I actually think skitter may move ahead at some point because I don't see myself agreeing with much of anything she has said this entire game and the fact that she blatantly ignores important questions and can't be bothered to actually explain why she has the reads she has, leans super scummy.

I'm starting to doubt my skitter TR. This feels right in a weird way. It's like I don't want to get caught up in conf bias by SRing but I never really thought about it could go the other way with TRing skitter.

[BrightEyedFish]

@Skitter

Care to give us a shotgun read on everyone?

[BrightEyedFish]

this is why players like wake win as scum so easily.

active players egos force them to find scum in other active players because the "win" of this game is finding scum. If you can not find scum you subconsciously think you are not good at the game. Ppls egos cant take that.

im not talking about robb specifically but the site as a whole.

BEF/Bob/Wake/gamr have provided little to nothing.

almost 50 percent of the game.

I can practically guarantee you on math alone that one scum is in there.

You took the exact opposite of my approach. Can we both be right?

[BrightEyedFish]

BEF town game:
viewtopic.php?f=53&t=79261

BEF scum game:
viewtopic.php?f=53&t=77859

My Wiki is up to date with more samples of both alignments.

[BrightEyedFish]

Ok. Caught up now. I find it hard to comment on alot of these 1v1s we have going on as I don't want to feel like I'm intruding, this goes for IRL stuff as well. I tend to let people work it out themselves and only jump in if I am asked or I find some grave injustice.

So, since this game got away from me and I haven't found any real footing I'll try to correct course. However, I feel like people are using my "lynchbaity" style like a pawn and not really letting me speak for myself. I enjoy being defended of course but I just don't want people to get my ideas (if I ever have anything good) twisted.

[BrightEyedFish]

@Hectic

Can you rank these players for me in order from scum to town?

Robbnva
Tchill13
Rabid
skitter

[Robbnva]

Guys. I read the spoiler. He said he’s mafia goon

[bob3141]

Looks to me like Hectic wants to be replaced by someone with a stomach bug

[BrightEyedFish]

Looks to me like Hectic wants to be replaced by someone with a stomach bug

Is this a reference to me?

[bob3141]

nope, reference to his spoiler

[Tchill13]

1. I said the wake vote was opportunistic not it would get him lynched. Did you think my being the secound on the wagon would get you lynched.?

2. The same applies to you bud Just because I voted you and you don't like it doesn't mean it's opportunistic. You haven't described why or how so it seems like buzz words to me.

just dont call every vote from someone you sr opportunistic. they werent. your vote on me wasnt. done deal.

[Tchill13]

I feel like people are using my "lynchbaity" style like a pawn and not really letting me speak for myself. I enjoy being defended of course but I just don't want people to get my ideas (if I ever have anything good) twisted.

thats on rabid

[Tchill13]

You took the exact opposite of my approach. Can we both be right?

2 plus 2 equals 4.

2 times 2 equals 4.

[Tchill13]

I just think all of tchill's posts have a inkling of scum in every post in every game.

you are correct.

[cyrus62]

Official Vote Count 1.04

With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

bob3141:(0)
Tchill13:(3) Rabid Schnauzer Hectic Garmr
Garmr:(1)Tchill13
Robbnva:(1) skitter30
Wake88:(0)
Hectic:(1)BrightEyedFish
skitter30:(1)Robbnva
Rabid Schnauzer:(0)
BrightEyedFish:(1) bob3141

Not Voting (9): Wake88

Deadline (expired on 2019-11-29 20:40:00)

[bob3141]

dont why but you feel off this game garmr, you push on tchill felt off. You made mistakes in regards to teh claimed vote timings. And not realy a case for why teh bef unvote actual made tchill scum.

Plus you usual do a few more walls

First time ive actual not town read you

VOTE: Garmr