Dance of the Title Thread: Resurgence in wild?

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Post Post #1475 (ISO) » Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:15 pm

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nom
Norwegian for
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Post Post #1476 (ISO) » Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:16 pm

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wtf

that's a creature meme

what does it have to do with norway
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Post Post #1477 (ISO) » Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:24 pm

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In post 1476, RadiantCowbells wrote:wtf

that's a creature meme

what does it have to do with norway
actually it was for funsies and I didn't know it was a creature meme tbf, I remembered mena opening with that in caps on nomination mafia and I wanted to shitpost

it's not a serious nom...
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Post Post #1478 (ISO) » Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:28 pm

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RC, did you ever post an argument for PP for nsg or address my concerns?

I feel like you strongly want that title and I don't get why.
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Post Post #1479 (ISO) » Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:39 pm

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I've made a case. I'm less attached to that title and more opposed to Sorting Hat. I don't think NSG should have a title primarily based off of her giving out hats with sorting as kind of an afterthought.

I feel like she deserves something that does her justice.
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Post Post #1480 (ISO) » Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:44 pm

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I think the hat part should get some sort of mention at least
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Post Post #1481 (ISO) » Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:46 pm

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I don't because I consider it a very trivial aspect of NSG but I guess that my opinion might not be universal.
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Post Post #1482 (ISO) » Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:06 pm

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Making good titles is hard.
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Post Post #1483 (ISO) » Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:08 pm

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sorting isn't an afterthought in sorting hat
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Post Post #1484 (ISO) » Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:14 pm

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In post 1476, RadiantCowbells wrote:wtf

that's a creature meme

what does it have to do with norway
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Post Post #1485 (ISO) » Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:21 pm

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i think sorting hat sounds most concerned with, well, sorting. the hat thing is a fun extra, if anything.

i also disagree with Jingle's reasons for disliking Princess Paragon, however, since there's an argument to be made for a princess that's won her own title.
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Post Post #1486 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:26 am

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We switched to talking about NSG title for a bit but what do people think about
Schrodinger Deepwolf
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I think it's a very very good title.
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Post Post #1487 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:55 am

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uh what if it's just Schrodinger's Wolf? I feel like the "Schrodinger" already conveys the ambiguity about dann's scumplay that "deep" is doing. So "deep" might be redundant and obscuring ok wordplay.

(And is dann a physics guy or is that just what came to mind?)
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Post Post #1488 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:19 am

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dannflor ->
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Post Post #1489 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:36 am

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In post 1487, Psyche wrote:uh what if it's just Schrodinger's Wolf? I feel like the "Schrodinger" already conveys the ambiguity about dann's scumplay that "deep" is doing. So "deep" might be redundant and obscuring ok wordplay.

(And is dann a physics guy or is that just what came to mind?)
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Post Post #1490 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:57 am

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I think "Schrodinger Deepwolf" might still be more relatable about the whole references than "Schrodinger Wolf" even if objectively speaking the later is semantically nicer.

Schrodinger Deepwolf is longer and rolls a bit less smoothly off the tongue, but I think the "Deepwolf" part is important to make the thing more relatable to the motivations for the nom.

I could go for removing the "Deep" part but I think it's a vital part of the title even if a bit redundant.
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Post Post #1491 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:59 am

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In post 1487, Psyche wrote:uh what if it's just Schrodinger's Wolf? I feel like the "Schrodinger" already conveys the ambiguity about dann's scumplay that "deep" is doing. So "deep" might be redundant and obscuring ok wordplay.

(And is dann a physics guy or is that just what came to mind?)
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Post Post #1492 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:04 pm

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"Schrodinger Wolf" can kind of give the impression more of "You never know if Dann is scum or not until you see the flip" that although similar isn't exactly what we might be gunning for here in my opinion.

The point we're looking for in my opinion is that Dann can be town read but there is that "I town read Dann but he might be a deepwolf".

"Schrodinger Wolf" directly more references someone you aren't sure about the alignment until the flip, that although like I said it's a similar concept, I don't think it's exactly what we were going for.

I think rather than "You never know Dann alignment" as "Schrodinger Wolf" might indicate, the pun is "Dann is probably town but you never know, he might be a deepwolf". Therefore you never know for certain if he's the "deepwolf" or not until he's flipped, rather than not having a solid read on him (since I think most of the time he's just town).
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Post Post #1493 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:05 pm

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I like the five syllables of Schrodinger Deepwolf better. Could be the start of a Haiku
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Post Post #1494 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:05 pm

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Actually the more I think about it the more I disagree about only "Schrodinger Wolf".

It gives the impression that Dann is someone you can't get a firm read on and I don't think that's true.

The title gimmick should probably be "you can't be confident that dann isn't the super secret deepwolf!" rather than "you can't be confident about Dann alignment"
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Post Post #1495 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:28 pm

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Schrodinger's deepwolf is indeed redundant but I think it's ok for the title to be redundant just to fit a site meme/tradition/inside joke in.
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Post Post #1496 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:31 pm

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In post 1492, Volpe14 wrote:"Schrodinger Wolf" can kind of give the impression more of "You never know if Dann is scum or not until you see the flip" that although similar isn't exactly what we might be gunning for here in my opinion.

The point we're looking for in my opinion is that Dann can be town read but there is that "I town read Dann but he might be a deepwolf".

"Schrodinger Wolf" directly more references someone you aren't sure about the alignment until the flip, that although like I said it's a similar concept, I don't think it's exactly what we were going for.

I think rather than "You never know Dann alignment" as "Schrodinger Wolf" might indicate, the pun is "Dann is probably town but you never know, he might be a deepwolf". Therefore you never know for certain if he's the "deepwolf" or not until he's flipped, rather than not having a solid read on him (since I think most of the time he's just town).
Agreed. I'm not opposed to Schrodinger's Wolf, but I don't feel it has the whole of the meaning.
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Post Post #1497 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:31 pm

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mastina anything you’d like to respond would be good, I think we’ve got something here
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Post Post #1498 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 8:01 pm

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In post 1497, Gamma Emerald wrote:mastina anything you’d like to respond would be good, I think we’ve got something here
Planning on writing a larger post on the subject tomorrow. (Have been a bit V/LA this weekend.)

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Post Post #1499 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 9:47 pm

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In post 1494, Volpe14 wrote:Actually the more I think about it the more I disagree about only "Schrodinger Wolf".

It gives the impression that Dann is someone you can't get a firm read on and I don't think that's true.

The title gimmick should probably be "you can't be confident that dann isn't the super secret deepwolf!" rather than "you can't be confident about Dann alignment"
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