Mini 2106 - Magia Record Fate Weave Semi-U-Pick (OVER!)

[popsofctown]

When it comes to the actual hammer I'm treating everything that's not seafood as unlynchable.

[Gamma Emerald]

"Lol I'm scum but that's not why?"
Severa has already gone into how Suji's slot is being mistreated.
Farkran read I agree with to some extent.
I don't know what else you've posted about.
I'm not required to do an audit on your iso to raise a concern about something that happened.

You don’t need to audit my ISO but the fact that seems like the only thing of mine you saw fit to talk about has me worried you’re avoid probably evaluating my play

[Gamma Emerald]

I assume seafood = Tempura, anything else?

[Gamma Emerald]

Ehh, everyone thinks my reads are crap so idk how I can townside...

D1 is hell, just end it

Wait is this a 3p soft

[popsofctown]

"Lol I'm scum but that's not why?"
Severa has already gone into how Suji's slot is being mistreated.
Farkran read I agree with to some extent.
I don't know what else you've posted about.
I'm not required to do an audit on your iso to raise a concern about something that happened.

You don’t need to audit my ISO but the fact that seems like the only thing of mine you saw fit to talk about has me worried you’re avoid probably evaluating my play

I think I try to read your posts as quickly as possible because that avatar is always to the left of them.
I am very much team bring-back-Rayquaza

[Bitmap]

Hmmmm.

TOWN

Kerset
Farkran
Salamence
Gamma
Alchemist
Chemist
- DEAD NULL -
Severa
Venus & Mars
Pops
Sujimichi
Bitmap
TL

SCUM

p. meh readslist but w/e it's d1

Why is Severa in the null pile when you had her as a scum read?

[Gamma Emerald]

Spoiler: lol

[Gamma Emerald]

"Lol I'm scum but that's not why?"
Severa has already gone into how Suji's slot is being mistreated.
Farkran read I agree with to some extent.
I don't know what else you've posted about.
I'm not required to do an audit on your iso to raise a concern about something that happened.

You don’t need to audit my ISO but the fact that seems like the only thing of mine you saw fit to talk about has me worried you’re avoid probably evaluating my play

I think I try to read your posts as quickly as possible because that avatar is always to the left of them.
I am very much team bring-back-Rayquaza

What’s wrong with Ciera Easton

[TemporalLich]

I don't really know if I need a lead rist considering my reads are worthless so a lead rist provides negative insight

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't really know if I need a lead rist considering my reads are worthless so a lead rist provides negative insight

Meh try anyway

[TemporalLich]

I don't really know if I need a lead rist considering my reads are worthless so a lead rist provides negative insight

Meh try anyway

isn't it anti-town to intentionally detract from town's insight though?!

[Bitmap]

If you claim investigation role then people won't lynch you.

I think that could be his motive. If we have to choose between lynching mediocre role and role cop, we will never choose role cop bc we want to see information that he provides.

He claimed rolecop, a role very common for scum. What are you talking about?

If Nancy doesn't start playing soon I'm going to rip her fucking head off with my bare hands.

Yes, very inclined to push the ND and Shiro hydra up as lynch candidate.

[Bitmap]

Kind of town reading Gamma and Alchemist from the wall post battle which aka y'all need to stop wall posting.

[Bitmap]

@pops: I town read Severa because he's following his town meta and his postings in our hood (me, TL, Severa).

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't really know if I need a lead rist considering my reads are worthless so a lead rist provides negative insight

Meh try anyway

isn't it anti-town to intentionally detract from town's insight though?!

Just because I suspect you doesn’t make your reads worthless

plus I don’t wanna allow anti spew strats to pass undetected

[TemporalLich]

alright, I'm gonna antispew then

[Gamma Emerald]

lesign

[Bitmap]

idk why Evenstar has me as a scum read but they aren't really the pinnacle of towniness either so whatevs

[TemporalLich]

idk why Evenstar has me as a scum read but they aren't really the pinnacle of towniness either so whatevs

I wouldn't worry about it too much, Evenstar is likely!scum

[Tatsuya Kaname]

MITAMA'S SPECIAL TRAINING

VOTECOUNT 1.3

Venus and Mars

(3P, 8V): Farkran(3), Severa(3), Bitmap(2)

TemporalLich

(2P, 6V): Salamence20(4), Evenstar(2)

Farkran

(1P, 4V): Gamma Emerald(4)

Gamma Emerald

(1P, 3V): popsofctown(3)

Evenstar

(1P, 3V): TemporalLich(3)

Severa

(1P, 3V): Kerset(3)

Not Voting (4P, 10V)

: Sujimichi(3), Alchemist21(3), Chemist1422(2), Venus and Mars(2)

With a total of 37 votes, it's 19 to lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2019-12-07 23:00:00)

[Farkran]

Catching up, will be doing multipost replies as i read stuff

[Farkran]

I think only the magia part of salamence claim is bs

The rest is true

Why would I lie about 1 part

Tbh this question is fair, also this the second time Farkran has had a response like this to a claim
Like it feels like Farkran is posting scum PT thoughts in the main thread by trying to rate the claims’ legitamacy

Ok - i tried to drop the issue, but this seems to be surfacing every time and i think it's not town-motivated here.

Please explain to me the scum intent in trying to DOUBT a rolecop fullclaim from salamence

in a game where i literally saw people taking bs at face value and believing it

. I can only see two possibilities:

1) Salamence is dumb and actually claimed his role -> he's getting nked and me adding wifom is going to help against that
2) Salamence is smart, has a very shitty ability and tries to attract nk -> scum!me would shut the hell up and kill elsewhere because i can control the nk and i don't care about his bs

Depending on what scum thinks they could choose either way, but i see no scum motivation in me trying to doubt that fullclaim. As i said, it's not like he would answer me, given that i didn't even TRY to pressure him about the claim.

VOTE: gamma emerald

It seems you're trying to justify a push on me with excuses.

[Farkran]

Gamma's list and reasoning make sense, but i do have a question

Why would i try to appraise you and salamence in the day thread? It's not like you're going to answer that. Also, if anything, i have been consistent in 1. (slightly) townlean blast disc pickers; 2. declaring what i believed and what i didn't believe from all slots making a claim.

I can see your point about me and suji distancing, that may validate your vote on me. Could you expand on TL though? You mentioned weird interactions between me and him. Do you see that as distancing too, or is there anything else?

My best guess to why you’d appraise us here (versus the scum PT, which I assume you are implying) is you just threw those up in instant reaction to the posts. If you would like to point out your other reactions to claims that would be nice, that way I could see if the pattern continues

As for TL interactions, yeah those kinda look like distancing too but my thinking about the connection between you and TL is “they may or may not be scum together, I see nothing in favor of either possibility”. While with Suji there’s the stuff I mentioned.

I think i have already reacted to every claim so far, stating whether i believe/don't believe them and how i read them in terms of alignment. Feel free to ask me if i missed any.

So, i get that you are scumreading both me and TL, but you are only scumreading TL based on your assumption that i am scum, correct?

[Farkran]

I'll start with a first step to break the ice: i'm a magical girl and i have powers. I used a charge disc so i have 3 votes. Going to use them only when i feel it's appropriate.

Farkran refused to claim mason at L-1 + intent in his first game because he believed it's optimal play to vehemently protect town's information, so freely sharing this information is concerning. Farkran did you think it's impossible this information wasn't already public, or did you just not give a care? The predecessor to this game included a player with an extra vote, and later this thread we discover you can't figure out what disc it is someone used just by seeing their votes: salamence charged but has a Blast disc number of votes.

I did also say in that game that refusing to claim was very specific of the circumstances. It was also a game where i openly speculated about PRs for the same reason = the mason team already had all the information they needed and no one else should have shared it until it was appropriate, i.e. to counterclaim epiccreeper and lynch scum. This game is vastly different (no open setup, no normal roles, etc), and by reading ahead you will notice that a lot of people included at least some amount of bs in their claims. Magical girl setup allows this, and i support the use of bs or non-bs claims to advance the gamestate.

I don't understand how it's pro-town to pick Blast Disc on Day 1. Either you two didn't read or you're throwing.

Or you're scum.

I read these as though they were all in one post on the first read through, but this looks like it's possibly an actual "the edit function is disabled" scumslip. Why did no one comment on this or care? "Because he quickly corrected himself" is not a great reason. RC quickly corrected himself when he mentioned reading the scum PT in Any Non Dead Player.

Even in a less "gotcha" sense the thought process here doesn't seem townie. Why does he care more about whether Gamma and Salamence are throwing and blameworthy than if they're scum? I have a bad habit of trashing other players instead of sorting players when I don't have sorting to think about as scum.

...this might be an actual scumslip.

If your abilities are mediocre, why not use a blast disc? I don't get it.

If you have a 900 MP ability that says "visit a player and become a miller for the rest of the game", you probably still want to take Charge or Accel to avoid an implicit VT claim that improves the quality of the factional nightkill. The extra vote is useless, it's more important to convince players than to have the power to force lynches through mechanically.

I have to disagree with this though. I think your reasoning is flawed/incomplete: you're admitting that picking a Blast disc equals a VT claim (= extra vote is useless), but if you see no reason for scum to pick blasts, it actually helps town narrowing the lynchpool, which i think is more beneficial than the side effects. To expand on this: i do not have experience with the previous iterations of magical girl mafia, but i would think scum abilities are useful and therefore they would like to abuse them over attempting a very weak VT claim.

VOTE: sujimichi

Fossing me on my lamistiness has been proven to be scum indicative.

How heavy of a meta-reliant player are you?

This seems a bit substandard from Farkran. He's seen both townies and mafia push him for lamisty posting. Sujimichi's posting was pretty reasonable about his thought process. I think it's scum indicative to treat a weak scumtell like a stopping point because you've "done your job" when you can keep interacting to find where you are within that space, if that make sense.

Funny how i can get both a burden of proficency from people who played/spectated with me, and a newbie shield from people who didn't, in the same game. By the way, if want to skip rvs, i need to push weak reads first, and i feel that voting a player is also a valid motive for interacting + i asked a question in the same post. Also i kept analyzing suji up to 157 which is where he crossed the null line and entered the towny side of my reads. This soft-shading line seems weird coming from you pops, need to check if you're committed to it.
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The rest of the post i mostly agree with.

[Farkran]

You seem to have my actions rather straight but how do you get that I was stealing town leadership from that? I wasn’t trying to put myself in Severa’s spot at all. Plus I don’t think the idea of being town leader ever explicitly came up, that’s you idea.

Almost done with the lead rist btw

The thought just felt natural when i noticed your postcount skyrocket today, after making a minor prodge yesterday. It looked like you were specifically pinged by Severa's presence and didn't want him to lead the town.

Then you say you also managed to produce strong scumreads (which i don't really agree with), and i found that weird.

I don't know if this is standard for you, so i asked for meta.

This can be postponed to after you post the readlist though

I kinda don’t get what’s odd about producing strong scumreads being paired with making a strong effort to catch up. I think those make sense as a pair, since when you are efforting like that you’re likely to form some strong reads.

Also, to try and cut down on space taken up, I find it interesting that the reads I don’t exactly agree with in Severa’s town list, Alch and Suji, both appeared suspect to me for things involving agreeing with people. Possibly means Severa has a point with how my interactions with Alch have been turning my thoughts on him around a little, but Suji is suspect for other things. I’ll state I probably won’t be inclined to vote Suji today because if that though.

Honestly I haven’t felt this content with my bearings on a game in a long time. I think I might be finding my groove here.

Was referring to dichotomy of

putting effort in the catchup + forming strong scumreads VS trying to catchup while arguing with severa

, not just the first pair. I'd think you would be focused on one or the other and, in the second case, presumably revolve your reads around the interactions with severa - which should not be defined as "strong". Speaking of which, i don't think any of your reads have "strong" reasoning backups.