Mini Normal 2108 : 1st game

[Menalque]

I believe he hasn’t site flaked but maybe thanksgiving stuff?

[Robbnva]

I wasn’t aware rabid’s posts got deleted. Hectic’s did.

[Wake1]

I guess I’ll stop trying also. Nobody else wants to. Just call me a lame duck or tree stump or whatever. If others don’t want to take the game seriously. Why should I.

For someone being in a game that requires working together to uproot the enemy you really need to get it together and start being a team player.

[Menalque]

Wake why did you claim vig?

[Robbnva]

I mean the bob wagon alone is gross. The 4 scummiest people in the game are on it. None of them have any reason to be voting bob. I really don’t understand what’s happening this game. It’s truly frustrating

[Wake1]

I wasn’t aware rabid’s posts got deleted. Hectic’s did.

I want to know which post you're referring to that has solidified your current vote.

[Wake1]

Wake why did you claim vig?

I already know I'm not ever going to be lynched in this game, so I'm going to break the ice because I want to involve all other members of Town. I'm hoping this is not an unwise play with my role, and am hoping there's a protective role out there.

I am a Town Vigilante. I can target anyone at night and kill them. I don't particularly trust my own judgement and aim because I am not as deep into this game as other players are. So I want to include everyone else in this decision, the decision on who we vote for me to kill each Night. I'm hoping this is the right move, and that someone in this game can and will protect me.

[Wake1]

And also because I get so worn out by peoples' bitching and paranoia.

[Menalque]

Are you gated?

[Menalque]

Okay also why do you not trust your own judgement?

[Robbnva]

I guess I’ll stop trying also. Nobody else wants to. Just call me a lame duck or tree stump or whatever. If others don’t want to take the game seriously. Why should I.

For someone being in a game that requires working together to uproot the enemy you really need to get it together and start being a team player.

That’s funny coming from you.

If somebody on the bob wagon can provide better reasons than I have provided. I’ll vote bob.

Nobody can. Nobody has good reasons.

Skitter did stuff that makes me not want to work with her.
Garmr has done stuff that makes me not want to work with her.
Creature’s predator has done stuff that makes me not want to work with them. Creature has done jack since replacing in.

I’m good working together with people but when people do things to purposely alienate me. I can’t work with them anymore. I legit scum read everyone on the bob wagon. They all have done stuff no townie should.

[Robbnva]

I wasn’t aware rabid’s posts got deleted. Hectic’s did.

I want to know which post you're referring to that has solidified your current vote.

I literally just explained what rabid did that makes them scum. There isn’t one post. It’s like his whole iso

[Wake1]

Are you gated?

What?

Okay also why do you not trust your own judgement?

Because I'm part of the uninformed majority and this is Mafia we're playing.

Point to me a cock-sure Townie and I'll point at that bullshitter too.

[cyrus62]

(expired on 2019-11-29 20:40:00)

[Menalque]

Are you unlimited in shots or do you only have a certain number?

And I’m asking because you seemed like very confident that I was scum after I posted my thoughts on the game and that seems odd from someone who’s apparently not that trusting in their own judgement?

[Menalque]

[snip]

Bob is also scummy imo. Feels like he’s chainsawing garmr for his read on tchill, while also claiming it’s a meta read. Like that’s conflicting to me, or at least it is in how he’s presenting both arguments in his ISO depending on when/who’s asking. Really don’t like 527 where he says his meta read on garmr as “his town games are more like just pulling on a thread rather doggedly irrelevant if he is right or wrong at that time” — which I think is what makes sense from garmr here given how he’s been pursuing tchill, regardless of whether you agree with him on tchill!scum or not. Plus the way he’s trying to shade skitt for not having read him correctly in the past. Idk the whole thing sits wrong, plus I’m willing to sheep garmr/skitt to a certain extent. Especially if skitt is more town than scum, which she is, then I trust her instincts

ng on a thread rather doggedly irrelevant

So you read on me is mostly dependant on tchill beign scum. So if tchill ever flipped town how woudl you read on me change. And what makes you so sure that even if tchill is scuma and garmr. That i must be scum chainsawing garmr rather than just a townie scum reading garmr due to feeling from his meta.

No, i wouldn’t say it’s mostly dependant on that but you’d look a lot worse if tchill is scum

Like I said I also think your process is contradictory on garmr. The reasons you’ve given for meta SRing him don’t like up with how I think he’s playing this game

I also think you’re intentionally mischaracterising my argument, if maybe not exactly misrepping me — “what makes you so sure” I never said “oh man tchill is scum here like 80% of the time guys you’d better fucking sheep me on this” and my garmr TR is similarly mollified by my description

If ur town then sorry but I think these are both rly bad posts

I dont go for angles i go for questions shaped to try and get better under standing of your alignment. After you can tell someone's alignment best when they just been tripped and even if they have seen the wire and have carefully stepped over it.

Im not so sure on my meta read on garmr any more. I hope to get more into this game as ive had trouble getting into the swing of things.

Okay so I’ll hear you out on this but like it doesn’t feel like your read on garmr was a particularly considered read if you’re rethinking it based on me saying it doesn’t make sense and imo you’re trying to back off a fake read you can’t justify. This is doubly bad considering how much you’ve talked to and about garmr that this is what’s making you reconsider him

Why exactly are you reconsidering garmr meta read?

mm im finding it very suspect that teh lead wagon was umvoted by skitter. And skitter and that slot have both ended up on me. Looks to me like I am acting as the couter wagon to rapid nom menal slot. Is menal scum with scum trying to form a counter wagon. or town not liking the menal wagon and trying to form a counter wagon but unfortunately just picking another townie.

Will have to look at skitters reasons for no long voting menals slot tommorrow

So we’re potentially both scum trying to start a wagon on you or we’re both town trying to start a counter wagon to town!me

This just doesn’t feel like real analysis to me

Why can’t I be scum acting in self preservation? Why is it likely that in a scenario of (skitt, me) as the team we both jump on you this transparently and immediately? Why can’t skitt be scum who’s making a bad push on you intentionally that town!me has fallen for?

If any of these were particularly less likely than the two theories you’d laid out, I’d get dismissing them. But I think you just picked two arbitrary possibilities which fypov aren’t any more likely than the others to look like you’re scum hunting and doing analysis

Why are these bad reasons to SR bob @robb

[cyrus62]

@rob the only post i removed from rab was a post where he attacked me went off on me and insulted me it was a personal attack and i did not want to read it every day since i said dont do that , and i did yes remove hetics post that were posted after he asked to replace out since your not allowed to post after requesting a replacement

[Wake1]

Are you unlimited in shots or do you only have a certain number?

And I’m asking because you seemed like very confident that I was scum after I posted my thoughts on the game and that seems odd from someone who’s apparently not that trusting in their own judgement?

Unlimited.

I don't think you're familiar with my playstyle. It's part of how I Scumhunt.

Being very trusting of one's own judgement is the Achille's heel of many a Town player.

[Garmr]

I mean the bob wagon alone is gross. The 4 scummiest people in the game are on it. None of them have any reason to be voting bob. I really don’t understand what’s happening this game. It’s truly frustrating

Complains about me not reading his posts doesn't read mine.

[cyrus62]

Official Vote Count 1.17

With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

bob3141:(

(L1)

skitter30 Menalque Garmr creature
Tchill13:(0)
Garmr:(1) bob3141
Robbnva:(0)
Wake88:(0)
creature(1) Tchill13
skitter30:(0)
Menalque:(L2)BrightEyedFish Wake88: Robbnva
BrightEyedFish:(0)

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Deadline (expired on 2019-11-29 20:40:00)

[Wake1]

Can we @ Bob from here like we can on FB?

[Wake1]

*Calling Bob we need you in the break room to talk or you're gonna die. Over and out.*

[Wake1]

Well, I'm not getting blamed for this one if he's hammered and flips Town.

I'm going to bed.

Y'all have a little over 8 hours to figure it out.

[Robbnva]

I mean the bob wagon alone is gross. The 4 scummiest people in the game are on it. None of them have any reason to be voting bob. I really don’t understand what’s happening this game. It’s truly frustrating

Complains about me not reading his posts doesn't read mine.

No I’ve read them. I stand behind what I said. Nobody has a GOOD reason for voting bob. Not a single one is better than what rabid has done.

Like if bob goes, I’m stuck in a game with people who have intentionally alienated me. So excuse me if I’m not excited about what’s going on here.

[Menalque]

I mean I think I’m doing the opposite of alienating you

Why are my reasons for a bob lynch uncompelling?