Mini Normal 2108 : 1st game

[Robbnva]

its not based on a game we played but one I’ve read. We can discuss it another time. This isn’t the time or place.

[skitter30]

I mean wanting to vote me is wanting to lynch me de facto given deadline pressure

Well no, i want to vote to indicate that i dislike your posting but i dont necessarily want you lynched

[Menalque]

its not based on a game we played but one I’ve read. We can discuss it another time. This isn’t the time or place.

Sure

[skitter30]

I don’t see why it’s invalid to say “I know there can be only X scum in this game, so even if I’m not TRing someone I SR (or TR less) these other people so I’m defaulting them to town for now

Is this a method you've used to rank/sort people in other games?

[Robbnva]

The bottom line is I don’t scum read bob. I have 5 people who deserve lynching before bob. Run up 4 of the 5, I’m in. 5th is claiming vig so cant lynch him.

[Menalque]

I mean wanting to vote me is wanting to lynch me de facto given deadline pressure

Well no, i want to vote to indicate that i dislike your posting but i dont necessarily want you lynched

Well if I don’t get mislynched or vig’d then we can talk about what you dislike tomorrow bc I’m p sure that if you’re town as well we’ll be able to find each other with a decent chance to interact

[Menalque]

I don’t see why it’s invalid to say “I know there can be only X scum in this game, so even if I’m not TRing someone I SR (or TR less) these other people so I’m defaulting them to town for now

Is this a method you've used to rank/sort people in other games?

I think so yeah

I’m gonna have dinner in a sec but I can look for where after if you like?

[skitter30]

Yeah that's basically what i'm weighing, if i want the time/oppurtunity to do that tomorrow, assuming i'm still here, of course

I dont think i'll have time to do that before deadline really (in fact i'm not going to even be here at deadline, i'll be bouncing soonish)

[skitter30]

I don’t see why it’s invalid to say “I know there can be only X scum in this game, so even if I’m not TRing someone I SR (or TR less) these other people so I’m defaulting them to town for now

Is this a method you've used to rank/sort people in other games?

I think so yeah

I’m gonna have dinner in a sec but I can look for where after if you like?

Yes please, whe you have a chance, i'm not sure i've ever seen you do that before

And ideally i'd like people to claim before we lynch them

[bob3141]

VOTE: Menal

well since its between two choices. One which i know for sure is town and another that has reasonable chance of beign scum.

Garmr case on me is realy bad. He claims to know my meta yet is avoiding my second town game meta. Whiel this could be the fact he wasnt in that one. But with me completign only 3 town games i would have thought soem would check my other town games aswell.

[Garmr]

VOTE: Menal

well since its between two choices. One which i know for sure is town and another that has reasonable chance of beign scum.

Garmr case on me is realy bad.

He claims to know my meta yet is avoiding my second town game meta.

Whiel this could be the fact he wasnt in that one. But with me completign only 3 town games i would have thought soem would check my other town games aswell.

I'm going to be honest I used to think I was a expert in reading Bob but now not so much since his always exceeding my expectations. So I planned on leaving him till latter to sort.

Why are you lying?

[bob3141]

How is that lying. Your assuming i was even aware of that post, where you no longer believe you can read me as well. Garmr can you actualy set out the case against me and why those points lead to apparently in your opinion the conclusion must be that i am scum.

and my point stands if you look at day one in my second town game. Do you read any more reason to scum read me in that game at point if you were in it.

[Garmr]

How is that lying. Your assuming i was even aware of that post, where you no longer believe you can read me as well. Garmr can you actualy set out the case against me and why those points lead to apparently in your opinion the conclusion must be that i am scum.

and my point stands if you look at day one in my second town game. Do you read any more reason to scum read me in that game at point if you were in it.

He claims to know my meta yet is avoiding my second town game meta

Ok to prove your not lying show me where I said something that I know your meta this game.

Also your point doesn't stand as your entire point was reliant on me knowing all your games and meta even the ones I wasn't a part of.

[Garmr]

@Bob

TLDR

Your reasoning for initially voting me was bad (I didn't post walls and you misread something.) When I pointed out the bit you misread you tried to cling to it. You then misrepped me again saying I was using skitter to push tchill.(I wasn't.) You haven't actually hunted all day and sat behind me with a vote and threw shade at both skitter and menal. It's got plenty of scum motivation.

[bob3141]

So at what point did I ever connect you to my comment about skitter and menal. Were you mentioned at all at any point in that post?

And you say shade when I infact say it could simply be that skitter doesnt like the menal wagon and ended up forming a new wagon with him. With skitter pick simply being a player that is ultimately town. Oh and at any point did i say i was scum reading skitter over it?

You talk about shade but your outright misreping that post.

[Menalque]

I don’t see why it’s invalid to say “I know there can be only X scum in this game, so even if I’m not TRing someone I SR (or TR less) these other people so I’m defaulting them to town for now

Is this a method you've used to rank/sort people in other games?

I think so yeah

I’m gonna have dinner in a sec but I can look for where after if you like?

Yes please, whe you have a chance, i'm not sure i've ever seen you do that before

And ideally i'd like people to claim before we lynch them

here we go, including one case of me doing it in a game you modded, plus a couple of me doing it in a game we played together

I'll say this: I haven't made it explicit as often as I thought I had while looking through my games, but it's often been a thought process of mine when I've been struggling to sort people but had stronger SRs

Spoiler:

Subject: Newbie 1949 - Game Over!

PoE basically

You’re playing like town

Creature is playing consistent with his towngame (i.e. he’s not really here right now) and his PoE makes sense from his point of view

Roster is null because he hasn’t done anything

Spark is null because he hasn’t posted

Korina is scummy for the bad push and misreps

Billy is kinda scummy for the vote and cause I trust creature’s reads enough to think he’s better than randodds

Grimm is either awful town or just scum

If scum is in my 3 scum reads, claim is town

unless we think there are 4 scum in this set up, which honestly seems like too much, then I think jjh/chem/mast all likely town

then I have a TR on eth0s

elbirn I liked end of D2 but a lot less today

adorable is quite empty but I like more today

so there's probably the 2 scum in (TL, suji, elbirn, adorbs) and that's the order I wanna lynch in for now

Subject: Newbie 1951 (Day 4)

Unless I come round to emps v fark as TvT in which case selynee would go into my scumpool

Subject: Newbie 1951 (Day 4)

I am okay with lynching in (fark, creeper) for today

strongly prefer creeper

readslist

selynee -- the fakehammer was towny, lack of content but there is clear attempt to scum hunt there even if it's not great, has got to more or less the same place that I have re:reads
teacher (conditional on fark!scum)
NMSA -- actually townier than I realised, bc I don't think the creeper read is distancing based on the way he's actually been pushing it, I think it's genuine
sushi -- more or less but I've never seen sushi!scum, although she's claimed she's bad at scum when she was town

skitt -- absolutely hasn't done anything that I think is truly AI. absolutely not lynching her today
emps -- just feel like there's something wrong here and I doubt I got both scum on D1 and he feels worse after the others? I wouldn't wanna lynch him unless I could figure out a reason for why his posts have been making me feel iffy about him tho

fark -- playing bad, I feel like everyone else is townier, I'm not gonna not lynch here just bc they might be mislynch bait

creeper -- trash ISO. not lurking or anything, he's in the game but contributing absolutely nothing. when he's been questioned about that he's been evasive, but he hasn't come across in the way I would expect nervous town to (see: sushi in 1938)

[Menalque]

probably would have been more accurate to say that people were null rather than actually town but that wasn't exactly a readslist so eh

[BrightEyedFish]

So we have 2 people at L-1 right now and neither t has claimed?

[BrightEyedFish]

I'm about to hammer Bob just because I hate NLs.

[Robbnva]

Sadly menal isn’t at l-1

[BrightEyedFish]

Sadly menal isn’t at l-1

Bob moved his vote there. That should be 4 if the latest VC is correct.

[Robbnva]

Oh that’s right

[Robbnva]

Wait to hammer. The menal wagon looks better. There isn’t a single townie player on the bob wagon.

[Robbnva]

And it’s essentially a counter wagon.

[BrightEyedFish]

Wait to hammer. The menal wagon looks better. There isn’t a single townie player on the bob wagon.

I agree. But I don't want a NL.