Mini 607 - Cop Central [GAME OVER!]

[TDC]

Why is that? You are implying Korlash is confirmed town, have I missed something?

Because RR was town…

So was Aimless and unless you know something about Korlash I don't he might be town as well.

[Alabaska J]

Why is that? You are implying Korlash is confirmed town, have I missed something?

Because RR was town…

So was Aimless and unless you know something about Korlash I don't he might be town as well.

See bottom of last page for answer.

[TDC]

Yay, simulposts.

Anyway, Tekk's next.

[charter]

Yeah, I was thinking of posting that I was paranoid, but I could be insane if Korlash is town, but figured others would figure it out haha.

[Farkshinsoup]

Let's wait until everyone reports before we start trying to draw any conclusions. Also, Tekk, would you mind, when you post, quoting the 2 charts from TDC and updating the results to reflect Zeek and charter's results as well as your own? Also, we should all be checking these charts to make sure they remain accurate as they are quoting and requoting.

[Korlash]

;_; all these if I'm town things make me sad... I thought we were friends... /cry...

[Tekkactus]

Innocent on RR.

Tekk -> Fark | Innocent; Aimless | Innocent; RR | Innocent

Skruffs -> Aimless | Guilty

Aimless -> clammy | Guilty

Alabaska J -> Skruffs | Innocent; Korlash | Innocent
Korlash -> Tekk | Innocent; Aimless | Innocent
TDC -> Zeek | Innocent; Aimless | Guilty; charter | Guilty

Raging Rabbit -> Fark | Innocent; Aimless | Innocent

ZeekLTK -> TDC | Innocent; Aimless | Guilty; Fark | Guilty
Farkshinsoup -> Jenter | Guilty; Raging Rabbit | Guilty
charter -> Aimless | Guilty; Korlash | Guilty; RR | Guilty

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Tekkactus: Sane, Naive, Scum

Skruffs: Insane, Paranoid
Aimless: Sane, Paranoid

Alabaska J: Sane, Naive, Scum

Clammy: Scum

Korlash: Sane, Naive, Scum
TDC: Insane, Scum

Raging Rabbit: Sane, Naive

ZeekLTK: Insane, Scum
Fark: Insane, Paranoid, Scum
Charter: Insane, Paranoid, Scum

That should be up to date.

[Korlash]

Innocent on TCD.

Tekk -> Fark | Innocent; Aimless | Innocent; RR | Innocent
Skruffs -> Aimless | Guilty
Aimless -> clammy | Guilty
Alabaska J -> Skruffs | Innocent; Korlash | Innocent
Korlash -> Tekk | Innocent; Aimless | Innocent; TCD | Innocent
TDC -> Zeek | Innocent; Aimless | Guilty; charter | Guilty
Raging Rabbit -> Fark | Innocent; Aimless | Innocent
ZeekLTK -> TDC | Innocent; Aimless | Guilty; Fark | Guilty
Farkshinsoup -> Jenter | Guilty; Raging Rabbit | Guilty
charter -> Aimless | Guilty; Korlash | Guilty; RR | Guilty

Tekkactus: Sane, Naive, Scum

Skruffs: Insane, Paranoid
Aimless: Sane, Paranoid

Alabaska J: Sane, Naive, Scum

Clammy: Scum

Korlash: Sane, Naive, Scum
TDC: Insane, Scum

Raging Rabbit: Sane, Naive

ZeekLTK: Insane, Scum
Fark: Insane, Paranoid, Scum
Charter: Insane, Paranoid, Scum

[Farkshinsoup]

I investigated TDC - I got a guilty.

Tekk -> Fark | Innocent; Aimless | Innocent; RR | Innocent
Skruffs -> Aimless | Guilty
Aimless -> clammy | Guilty
Alabaska J -> Skruffs | Innocent; Korlash | Innocent
Korlash -> Tekk | Innocent; Aimless | Innocent; TCD | Innocent
TDC -> Zeek | Innocent; Aimless | Guilty; charter | Guilty
Raging Rabbit -> Fark | Innocent; Aimless | Innocent
ZeekLTK -> TDC | Innocent; Aimless | Guilty; Fark | Guilty
Farkshinsoup -> Jenter | Guilty; Raging Rabbit | Guilty; TDC | Guilty
charter -> Aimless | Guilty; Korlash | Guilty; RR | Guilty

Tekkactus: Sane, Naive, Scum

Skruffs: Insane, Paranoid
Aimless: Sane, Paranoid

Alabaska J: Sane, Naive, Scum

Clammy: Scum

Korlash: Sane, Naive, Scum
TDC: Insane, Scum

Raging Rabbit: Sane, Naive

ZeekLTK: Insane, Scum
Fark: Insane, Paranoid, Scum
Charter: Insane, Paranoid, Scum

[charter]

So does this mean that Zeek/TDC is scum and Korlash/Tekk/Alabaska is scum? This is just from looking at the potential sanities in Fark's post, and it's late here so my logic might be amiss. I know that definately one of zeek/TDC is scum, but are me and Fark in the clear? Or is everyone still possible scum?

[Korlash]

hmmm... what if both aimless and skruffs were paranoid, that makes one of TDC/zeek insane, and one of you two insane. Then we are left with one more. So i think it might still be possible one of you are scum. I don't think both of you can be though.

Then again I could be wrong... I'm not known for my logical deductions...

[Alabaska J]

I investigated TDC - I got an innocent.

Tekk -> Fark | Innocent; Aimless | Innocent; RR | Innocent
Skruffs -> Aimless | Guilty
Aimless -> clammy | Guilty
Alabaska J -> Skruffs | Innocent; Korlash | Innocent; TDC | Innocent
Korlash -> Tekk | Innocent; Aimless | Innocent; TCD | Innocent
TDC -> Zeek | Innocent; Aimless | Guilty; charter | Guilty
Raging Rabbit -> Fark | Innocent; Aimless | Innocent
ZeekLTK -> TDC | Innocent; Aimless | Guilty; Fark | Guilty
Farkshinsoup -> Jenter | Guilty; Raging Rabbit | Guilty; TDC | Guilty
charter -> Aimless | Guilty; Korlash | Guilty; RR | Guilty

Tekkactus: Sane, Naive, Scum

Skruffs: Insane, Paranoid
Aimless: Sane, Paranoid

Alabaska J: Sane, Naive, Scum

Clammy: Scum

Korlash: Sane, Naive, Scum
TDC: Insane, Scum

Raging Rabbit: Sane, Naive

ZeekLTK: Insane, Scum
Fark: Insane, Paranoid, Scum
Charter: Insane, Paranoid, Scum

[ZeekLTK]

Well I think it's fairly obvious why they killed RR, he was the most likely to vote WITH me (against TDC).

Let's lynch this scum already...

[Alabaska J]

Well I think it's fairly obvious why they killed RR, he was the most likely to vote WITH me (against TDC).

Let's lynch this scum already...

This is WIFOM, as you could have killed him to frame TDC. I think this is more likely, actually.

[Korlash]

This is WIFOM, as you could have killed him to frame TDC. I think this is more likely, actually.

Sorry, why is this more likely? You have inside knowledge of the scum's plans?

[TDC]

Zeek, please explain why you ended the day early. We were not done discussing investigations or claim order.

I see no possible town rationale for that.

[TDC]

Also, charter and Fark are not cleared, the combinations Zeek+Fark and TDC+charter are possible.

[Farkshinsoup]

Before we go any further, could both TDC and zeek do up a reveal order for tomorrow? I know you guys did one yesterday, but you may want to revise it. Unless someone sees something that I don't, I think we have to lynch one of these guys today.

Well I think it's fairly obvious why they killed RR, he was the most likely to vote WITH me (against TDC).

Agree with Alabaska, that's WIFOM. Other reasons why they would have wanted RR dead: He figured out clammy was scum, had a good understanding of the game mechanics, and killing him resolved relatively few sanities, as up until last night, I was the only one who had investigated him.

So, correct me if I'm wrong, but a lot of things hinge on Aimless's sanity.

We know Skruffs was insane or paranoid. We know that one of TDC or Zeek are insane.

If Aimless was paranoid, then that means that there would be one more paranoid and one more insane. Once you add Skruffs into that, it means that either Charter or I are scum. But this is only if Aimless was paranoid.

If Aimless was sane, then the 1 remaining scum is in the Tekk/Alabaska/Korlash group.

Futhermore, because of their investigations, either charter or myself could be cleared. If zeek is town and TDC is scum, then zeeks investigation clears me. If TDC is town, and Zeek is scum, then TDC's investigation clears charter.

Alabaska, Korlash, and I will all have our sanities narrowed down to one after tonight, because we 've investigated TDC. I recommend that Tekk and Charter investigate the survivor of the TDC/Zeek battle, as that will confirm your sanities. We should wake up tomorrow knowing who is sane, paranoid, insane, naive. We might have another investigation that has found scum, and we might have another 1 to 1 battle.

In the meantime I'm going to do a reread. I want to see if I can connect clammy to either of these guys, or see anything else in Day 1 or 2 that might give some indication as to which of them is scum.

[TDC]

Before we go any further, could both TDC and zeek do up a reveal order for tomorrow?

Sure, here goes:
Fark
Tekk
Alabaska
Korlash
charter

Also, reading back a bit I wonder why Zeek included me in his claim list. If he was town then I would be confirmed scum after his death and a claim would be unnecessary. Slip?

[charter]

Gah, reread clammy's posts. Unfortunately the only interaction he's had with either of TDC or Zeek is for voting Zeek yesterday. I'm willing to believe he would vote for a townie over his scumbuddy, so

vote TDC

[TDC]

I'm investigating Zeek tonight. I'll know what my sanity is once clammy is dead, regardless.

I just noticed this from yesterday's twilight.
1. Obviously clammy's alignment did not tell you your sanity.. why did you think it would?
2. Why did you investigate RR instead of Zeek?

Two other things I noticed:
1. If Fark is scum, then RR was naive. WIFOM or not, but scum knowingly killing a useless seems to be stupid.

2. I thought about why Zeek claimed Insane yesterday, here's how the claim sheet looked before he claimed:

Tekk -> Fark | Innocent; Aimless | Innocent
Skruffs -> Aimless | Guilty
Aimless -> clammy | Guilty
Alabaska J -> Skruffs | Innocent; Korlash | Innocent
clammy -> Tekk | Guilty; Aimless | Guilty
Korlash -> Tekk | Innocent; Aimless | Innocent
TDC -> Zeek | Innocent
Raging Rabbit -> Fark | Innocent; Aimless | Innocent
ZeekLTK -> TDC | Innocent
Farkshinsoup -> Jenter | Guilty; Raging Rabbit | Guilty
charter -> Aimless | Guilty; Korlash | Guilty

With the knowledge that clammy was scum and my knowledge that charter is town, this meant (from Zeek's point of view):
Skruffs Insane/Paranoid
Aimless Sane/Paranoid
TDC Insane/Paranoid
Fark Insane/Paranoid if Fark is town
charter Insane/Paranoid if Korlash is town, Paranoid if Korlash is scum.

This means that if either Fark or Korlash are scum, only three people could've been Insane, so the chances of me being Insane were 2/3. If neither of them is scum, then the chances were 1/2.

That's far away from proving anything, but enough for me to revise my claim order:
Korlash
Tekk
Fark
Alabaska
charter

[TDC]

Gah, reread clammy's posts. Unfortunately the only interaction he's had with either of TDC or Zeek is for voting Zeek yesterday. I'm willing to believe he would vote for a townie over his scumbuddy, so

vote TDC

It's called bussing.

Also I'd like to refer you to the question about Zeek's quick hammer - do you think that was a pro-town thing to do?

[Farkshinsoup]

Still re-reading. Let's be careful with our votes, it's 4 to lynch, and there's another scum out there, so let's not put anyone at L-1 to quickly. We have two weeks to sort this out, no reason to rush.

Gah, reread clammy's posts. Unfortunately the only interaction he's had with either of TDC or Zeek is for voting Zeek yesterday. I'm willing to believe he would vote for a townie over his scumbuddy, so

vote TDC

So you no longer suspect Zeek? All of the arguments you made against him are out the window because you think that clammy wasn't bussing?

[charter]

Answer me this real fast and I'll explain completely why I voted you. Before last night did you think I was scum?

[charter]

Fark, there are other reasons, I can explain after TDC tells me if he thought I was scum before last night.