Mini Normal 2108 : 1st game

[Tchill13]

robb really had no reason to kill creature there.

[Wake1]

the creature iso makes me want to lean towards BEF scum.

the fact that wake is a vig in this game that is

UNGATED

make me believe he is scum.

if there are 2 scum wake is conf scum imo.

someone needs to talk me through how town could have an ungated vig in a 2 or 3 scum 9 player normal game.

There were two NKs, Tchill.

Multiball is not allowed in Mini Normals.

[Tchill13]

i understand both points.

how does town have an ungated vig in a 9 player game where 2 player scum teams are possible?

youre talking about the opportunity of ending the game in 1 day phase.

if a 3 man scum team is the case youre talking about giving town 2 day phases alone to catch scum.

[Wake1]

i understand both points.

how does town have an ungated vig in a 9 player game where 2 player scum teams are possible?

youre talking about the opportunity of ending the game in 1 day phase.

if a 3 man scum team is the case youre talking about giving town 2 day phases alone to catch scum.

Share with me in detail what you're thinking, Tchill.

[Tchill13]

multiball is multi factions correct? or is that when scum has the ability to make multiple kills in one night phase?

[Wake1]

Are you saying I'm Scum, or are you setting it up for a Vig counterclaim? Or do you simply doubt there being an ungated Vig?

[Wake1]

multiball is multi factions correct? or is that when scum has the ability to make multiple kills in one night phase?

Only one kill per faction can happen.

And because this game is not multiball there's only one Town and one Mafia faction.

[Tchill13]

given the fact that it is a 9 player game an ungated vig only can be justified in my eyes as a scum roll.

if scum have 2 players its balanced imo.

if scum have 3 players and town have 2 then youre talking about only 2 day phases to catch scum and its over.

if scum have 2 players and the vig is town then town could theoretically win the game in one day phase, which is unbalanced.

[Tchill13]

Only one kill per faction can happen.

if this is what multiball means then disregard my whole argument.

it just makes the nk weirder due to the fact you're a claimed legit threat to scum.

if you're ungated and indeed town then I have no idea how this setup was justified.

[Wake1]

given the fact that it is a 9 player game an ungated vig only can be justified in my eyes as a scum roll.

if scum have 2 players its balanced imo.

if scum have 3 players and town have 2 then youre talking about only 2 day phases to catch scum and its over.

if scum have 2 players and the vig is town then town could theoretically win the game in one day phase, which is unbalanced.

So your position is that I am Scum?

[skitter30]

it's probably massclaim today, i think, we're in mylo

is it even possible for town to lose a game in 2 day phases on site? is that setup allowed in a normal???

Yeah, i guess.
Full vig seems insane in a game this size but that's apparently what we're dealing with

[Tchill13]

if scum have the ability to have a vig then yes youre scum.

you defined multiball as one kill per faction.

if thats the case, then there must be 3 scum so town cant win in one day phase.

[Tchill13]

i fucking hate setup spec on this site the ppl that judge the balance seem so moronic.

[skitter30]

wake has to be conf town here. if he's scum then scum are way too OP given town could lose this game in just 2 day phases.

Scum vigs arent normal, he's conftown

[Tchill13]

what the actual fuck.

[skitter30]

if scum have the ability to have a vig then yes youre scum.

you defined multiball as one kill per faction.

if thats the case, then there must be 3 scum so town cant win in one day phase.

Multiball isnt allowed in mini normals
Pgos arent allowed either
Nor are scum vigs. He's just conftown

[skitter30]

what the actual fuck.

Yeah idk

[Tchill13]

as i said earlier, great nk wake (even though i like menal, Vote analysis helps). hopefully i was detailed enough in my thought process there.

sorry for the confusion.

[skitter30]

tchill/wake/robb/skitter/bef/garmr

if theres a vig in the game (town or scum) of a 9 player normal its almost a guarantee that only 2 scum are in the game.

if 3 scum is in this game this is a stupid setup. I'm against a mass claim.

If there's 3 scum on the same team than the game is already over

Like he has to be a vig and he's claiming ungated so yeah

It might just be something like
Bp scum
Scum


Vig
6 vts

Or something

That'a rhe only thing i have that makes sense

[Tchill13]

He's just conftown

so scum thought it was worth leaving him alive so he might kill a townie.

didnt wake ask for opinions on the nk?

[skitter30]

If there ARE any results from any Town PRs today...

...perhaps they should be shared. Any new information I can work with while I'm still alive would be extremely helpful.

Yes, if anyone has any info they should just claim it imo

[Tchill13]

If we were to lynch Bob, but he flips Town, I would have to kill someone between Menalque and Garmr.

well this is nice.

[Tchill13]

garmr conftown?

[skitter30]

He's just conftown

so scum thought it was worth leaving him alive so he might kill a townie.

didnt wake ask for opinions on the nk?

He said he was going to shoot in mena/garmr yesterday

If he dies the shot still goes thru, so it's more interesting to think that they want him alive *tonight* to shoot someone, i think

Pedit that

[skitter30]

Not conftown but he gets townpoints