Mini Normal 2108 : 1st game

[skitter30]

Ok i gotta get to sleep so i'll answer more in depth tomorrow but tldr: no this whole sequence would be a really dumb way to play it

[Tchill13]

its literally preferance for me. (from my pov)

one scum is for sure in robb/BEF unless garmr is scum (he aint)

2 scum is for sure in robb/bef/skitter

only way scum win here is if the townie in robb/bef/skitter is nk/lynched with tchill/garmr

skitter began to give me a hard tr but then realized that means garmr would need to be in the pool.

creature nk makes more sense from bef/skitter than bef/robb given creatures robb tr. this plus skits hesitancy on garmr is enough to make me change my preferance of rob being in my nk/lynch proposal to skitter.

once again, its auto win from my pov either way if garmr is conftown.

[Tchill13]

bob3141 skitter30 Menalque Garmr creature Wake88
Tchill13:(0)
Garmr:(1) bob3141
Robbnva:(0)
Wake88:(0)
creature(1) Tchill13
skitter30:(0)
Menalque:(L2)BrightEyedFish Robbnva bob3141
BrightEyedFish:(0)

skitter being the scum on the wagon and BEF being off.

if robb/bef is the team then theyre voting together d1 on a 3p wagon.

this just lines up with my thought process.

[Robbnva]

I find it interesting Garmr is claiming macho when hectic in his post that got deleted said he should fake claim macho.

I still like skitter for scum. Garmr isn’t confirmed town. Nobody is really except wake which is rather unfortunate

I’m town but if y’all think Lynching me wins the game then go for it.

[Robbnva]

His replacement should

[Robbnva]

I’ll let y’all figure it out. You all think you’re so smart.

[Wake1]

So many pe edits. But yeah I think BEF is scum

I need actual reasons for lynching him.

[BrightEyedFish]

Hello back to the friendly neighbor! (don't want to out your name but I will confirm if you choose to claim)

[Wake1]

Hello back to the friendly neighbor! (don't want to out your name but I will confirm if you choose to claim)

Details, please.

[BrightEyedFish]

(don't want to out your name but I will confirm if you choose to claim

"don't want to out your name but I will confirm if you choose to claim"

I will only out before if the other person wants me to or is in danger of a lynch. Don't want to give scum any info on a conftown if not needed.

[Wake1]

(don't want to out your name but I will confirm if you choose to claim

"don't want to out your name but I will confirm if you choose to claim"

I will only out before if the other person wants me to or is in danger of a lynch. Don't want to give scum any info on a conftown if not needed.

If it's just a Neighbor/Neighborizer role without any useful results then I don't care about it. Any useful information, however, I do.

[cyrus62]

Official Vote Count 2.01

With 6 votes in play, it takes 4 to lynch.
Tchill13:(0)
Garmr:(0)
Robbnva:(0)
Wake88:(0)
skitter30:(1) Robbnva
BrightEyedFish:(0)

Not Voting (5)Tchill13 Garmr Wake88 skitter30 BrightEyedFish

Deadline (expired on 2019-12-08 21:06:00)

[Wake1]

I find it interesting Garmr is claiming macho when hectic in his post that got deleted said he should fake claim macho.

I still like skitter for scum. Garmr isn’t confirmed town. Nobody is really except wake which is rather unfortunate

I’m town but if y’all think Lynching me wins the game then go for it.

I remember this.

[Wake1]

I find it interesting Garmr is claiming macho when hectic in his post that got deleted said he should fake claim macho.

I still like skitter for scum. Garmr isn’t confirmed town. Nobody is really except wake which is rather unfortunate

I’m town but if y’all think Lynching me wins the game then go for it.

I'm not finding it in his ISO, but his comment was in a spoile

I remember this.

[Wake1]

God my phone sucks.

His comment was in a spoiler tag.

[cyrus62]

Hectic"]No idea, I'd have to reread everything to get substantial reads on them, and I really don't feel like doing that. If you want gutreads: Tchill's scum, Robb's town.

This game is feeling more like a chore than something enjoyable. Past me would've stayed in with low motivation and probably lurked, but it's a lot more sensible to just sub out. It's been great bantering with the likes of Rabid Schnauzer and that Bob guy, and I hope you all work something out and agree to no-lynch/no-kill to settle for a draw.

Section for briefing my replacement: (DO NOT READ THIS IF YOU ARE IN THE GAME)

Spoiler:

This slot is town. Pretty boring role as well unless you're some kind of sicko. I recommend fake claiming Macho Cop and trying to attract a nightkill onto yourself, but it's up to you.

@mod:

Requesting replacement.

since people keep going on with this being removed i will re add it

[Robbnva]

poor cyrus. You are doing a great job considering how difficult we all have been.

[skitter30]

I mean i'd also have to have knowingly put myself in a position where the game was auto loss

only if garmr is conftown to everyone in the game.

which hes not, because youre debating it.

if garmr is bp you kill wake anyway to avoid the conftown unless you can for sure get a town kill there. thats the only reason you allow the risk of the conftown.

if garmr is bp and gets shot town probably allows wake to clear himself d2 since he claimed ungated to begin with.

think about it

if i were scum and i want to keep town!garmr in the lynch pool, the obvious move is to just ... nk the vig who would otherwise be conftown and not mislynchable, and then point out the next day that he was thinking of killing garmr, and that the vig died. look, now garmr is sketchy.
this is clean and simple ^

vs what you're proposing i'm doing:
keep the conftown vig alive, point out that this is town indicative for garmr, have multiple other people agree with me (you and the now conftown vig who isn't dead), and then decide that i dont' like how this makes garmr look and decide that i want to put him in the lynch pool anyways, which makes me look bad.
when i could have achieved the exact same result in an obvious and 'normal' course of action that nobody would have looked twice at

and instead of killing the vig and i choose kill creature of all people, who was imminently mislynchable

like which play makes more sense here; give me some credit

also garmr isn't conftown. the fact that the vig didn't die is in fact town-indicative for him, sure, since it means scum is probably ok with him dying.
but he isn't mechanically town, which is what conftown means. he isn't an ic. he hasn't been cop-cleared. he's just the center of a weird nk choice by scum, which could be explained in other ways (scum!him for whatever reason thought he was immune to being vigged, for whatever reason)

[skitter30]

So scum have a doctor maybe ...?

Why would scum have a doctor.

why is there a vig
why are you macho

idk

scum have to have something to counter the doc, and it isn't an rb
doctor could make sense, and if you're macho it would indicate there's a decent chance there's a doc in the game

[skitter30]

skitter began to give me a hard tr but then realized that means garmr would need to be in the pool.

creature nk makes more sense from bef/skitter than bef/robb given creatures robb tr. this plus skits hesitancy on garmr is enough to make me change my preferance of rob being in my nk/lynch proposal to skitter.

once again, its auto win from my pov either way if garmr is conftown.

a) i still think you're town but the things you're proposing are ridiculous and almost insulting
b) garmr isn't conftown
c) again if scum!me wanted to keep garmr in the pool this would be a dumb af way to go about it
d) creature was mislynchable and an objectively worse nk than the vig

[skitter30]

I find it interesting Garmr is claiming macho when hectic in his post that got deleted said he should fake claim macho.

I still like skitter for scum. Garmr isn’t confirmed town. Nobody is really except wake which is rather unfortunate

I’m town but if y’all think Lynching me wins the game then go for it.

hectic (creature) flipped town tho

[skitter30]

(don't want to out your name but I will confirm if you choose to claim

"don't want to out your name but I will confirm if you choose to claim"

I will only out before if the other person wants me to or is in danger of a lynch. Don't want to give scum any info on a conftown if not needed.

If it's just a Neighbor/Neighborizer role without any useful results then I don't care about it. Any useful information, however, I do.

sigh that's not what a friendly neighbor is either

if player A is friendly neighbor they target player B and the mod tells player B that player A is town

it's like a limited-use IC shot
BEF's saying he knows someone told him they're town last night

[Wake1]

If the Friendly Neighbor ability was used it needs to be confirmed NOW by both parties...

... please.

[Robbnva]

I find it interesting Garmr is claiming macho when hectic in his post that got deleted said he should fake claim macho.

I still like skitter for scum. Garmr isn’t confirmed town. Nobody is really except wake which is rather unfortunate

I’m town but if y’all think Lynching me wins the game then go for it.

hectic (creature) flipped town tho

right, but it would be kind of smart to actually fake claim that as scum.

[Wake1]

Guys, could you all please help me confirm if Garmr is Town?

I had said I'd shoot between Menalque and Garmr, and never said who (although Menalque was the counter-wagon and could be seen as the obvious target of the two). Either Scum already knew Garmr was Scum and figured I'd just shoot Garmr, or that Garmr is Town and they figured they'd let me shoot either of them.