Mini Normal 2108 : 1st game

Robbnva · Post Post #1575 (ISO) » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:28 pm

Tchill play today doesn’t look town. Clearing garmr implies scum together imo. I’ll go with that and if I’m long at least blame me for that.

Tchill13 · Post Post #1576 (ISO) » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:29 pm

In post 1574, skitter30 wrote:i don't tr garmr tho

ok. lets have a discussion. i belive you think the scum team is bef/garmr because garmr is the only player capable of being ok with the nk. is that correct?

skitter30 · Post Post #1577 (ISO) » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:31 pm

no ?

i don't really have anyone who's ok with that nk besides bef so if i'm ignoring a traitor universe than i'm just ignoring this thought process because it doesn't apply to all of you equally

skitter30 · Post Post #1578 (ISO) » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:32 pm

* i.e. all of you are equally unlikely to make that nk imo

Tchill13 · Post Post #1579 (ISO) » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:33 pm

so garmr is scum based on play? what in particular sticks out to you? lack of involvement?

skitter30 · Post Post #1580 (ISO) » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:34 pm

In post 1575, Robbnva wrote:Tchill play today doesn’t look town. Clearing garmr implies scum together imo. I’ll go with that and if I’m long at least blame me for that.

mindmelded with him a few different times
feel like he's solving the game (i.e. and not just trying to push a mislynch)
i feel like i'm witnessing his thought process in real time, it makes me think it's real

skitter30 · Post Post #1581 (ISO) » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:34 pm

well it's more that i tr robb and you and odn't tr him

the lack of involvement isn't helping

like i point to things for each of you that look townie today
i can't for him

Tchill13 · Post Post #1582 (ISO) » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:37 pm

In post 1581, skitter30 wrote:well it's more that i tr robb and you and odn't tr him

ok this is good and understandable.

do you understand that robb has implied he's the neighborizer? "you know what i am". thats enough for me.

do you believe town has an ungated vig and a friendly neighborizer?

not only a role that could win the game in one day phase but also a role that could have 2 conf townies in day 2.

does that sound realistic against a 2 man scum team?

or does the setup of an ungated vig and a modifier that implies a doc while there is none seem more realistic in terms of balance?

Tchill13 · Post Post #1583 (ISO) » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:39 pm

In post 1556, Robbnva wrote:You demanded the mass claim and
everyone has claimed but me and bef so you know what my role is
and you’re still pushing the agenda that i’m scum?

Robbnva · Post Post #1584 (ISO) » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:39 pm

Wake is not ungated.

Jfc

Tchill13 · Post Post #1585 (ISO) » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:39 pm

if you're of the mind bef is scum then youre of the mind robb is scum.

skitter30 · Post Post #1586 (ISO) » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:40 pm

i have no idea what's going on with the balance of this game; i can't really make a good estimate without knowing what some scum are so idk

like the game is too small and varying power levels are so different with different combinations of the proposed/claimed roles that like ... they could theoretically all form balanced setups but scum power would differ greatly in each theoretical setup and i have no cornerstone to base this analysis off of because idk what scum have and all i know is that we have an ungated vig

(and maybe a macho townie and maybe a fn)

my best guess is scum have a rolestopper but honestly no idea

Robbnva · Post Post #1587 (ISO) » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:41 pm

In post 1585, Tchill13 wrote:if you're of the mind bef is scum then youre of the mind robb is scum.

This is more scum thinking. Bef can be scum and I can be town.

Tchill13 · Post Post #1588 (ISO) » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:41 pm

there is no world where you believe BEF is lying about the night action but you also believe that robb is being truthful in his acknowledgement of what his role is.

skitter30 · Post Post #1589 (ISO) » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:42 pm

like i don't know enough of the setup to feel confident basing analysis off of it rn

of course massclaim would help but you know

pedit well if he's fn he isn't loyal so there's that, i guess

skitter30 · Post Post #1590 (ISO) » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:42 pm

?

we could have an fn but i have no idea what scum would need to make it balanced, that's what i'm trying ot say

Robbnva · Post Post #1591 (ISO) » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:43 pm

In post 1589, skitter30 wrote:like i don't know enough of the setup to feel confident basing analysis off of it rn

of course massclaim would help but you know

pedit well if he's fn he isn't loyal so there's that, i guess

Oh Jeeez. I’m sorry. Now you have to scum hunt. Boo hoo

Tchill13 · Post Post #1592 (ISO) » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:43 pm

In post 1589, skitter30 wrote:fn he isn't loyal so there's that, i guess

well... i was under the impression this was the case. i thought this was what was claimed. damn it.

skitter30 · Post Post #1593 (ISO) » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:43 pm

the fact that literally neither side of the fn transaction will confirm that it actually happened makes me doubt that it's real tho on some level

skitter30 · Post Post #1594 (ISO) » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:43 pm

In post 1591, Robbnva wrote:
In post 1589, skitter30 wrote:like i don't know enough of the setup to feel confident basing analysis off of it rn

of course massclaim would help but you know

pedit well if he's fn he isn't loyal so there's that, i guess
Oh Jeeez. I’m sorry. Now you have to scum hunt. Boo hoo

... that's what i've been saying

Tchill13 · Post Post #1595 (ISO) » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:44 pm

In post 1591, Robbnva wrote:
In post 1589, skitter30 wrote:like i don't know enough of the setup to feel confident basing analysis off of it rn

of course massclaim would help but you know

pedit well if he's fn he isn't loyal so there's that, i guess
Oh Jeeez. I’m sorry. Now you have to scum hunt. Boo hoo

I am really trying to change my play. I don't want to be site banned or blacklisted anymore. I ask you please give me another chance. if I have insulted you in the past, I am so sorry and I just hope you give me a chance. If not though I completely understand. Also cursing at players in a game is now being enforced more heavily than in the past. Please choose your words wisely.

such poor etiquette for someone who demands that of others. an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

skitter30 · Post Post #1596 (ISO) » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:45 pm

In post 1592, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 1589, skitter30 wrote:fn he isn't loyal so there's that, i guess
well... i was under the impression this was the case. i thought this was what was claimed. damn it.

fn doesn't inherently have a loyal modifier attached to it, if that's what you're thinking

rob just said something along the lines of 'i can be scum and bef can be town' which rules out the possibility of a loyal modifier

Robbnva · Post Post #1597 (ISO) » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:46 pm

Sorry Tchill. I never want to associate with you ever again as either alignment accusing me of game throwing was not acceptable

Robbnva · Post Post #1598 (ISO) » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:48 pm

This game has sucked the fun and life out of me.

Tchill13 · Post Post #1599 (ISO) » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:49 pm

In post 1596, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1592, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 1589, skitter30 wrote:fn he isn't loyal so there's that, i guess
well... i was under the impression this was the case. i thought this was what was claimed. damn it.
fn doesn't inherently have a loyal modifier attached to it, if that's what you're thinking

rob just said something along the lines of 'i can be scum and bef can be town' which rules out the possibility of a loyal modifier

so BEF should tell wake who targeted him.

we then lynch bef, if he flips town wake has a 1 in 3 shot in shooting scum (he's gonna say robb was it so itd be me/skit/garmr)

thats not good enough odds for my liking.