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[Dolly Parton]

Because I feel like Norwegian's actually been trying to progress the game more than most - his poor progression invites pressure onto himself that he could have avoided. Does it automatically make him Town? No, but there are better candidates imo.

A50 has been lying low, playing it safe while not doing anything to solve the game or push his biggest SR. He's also using excuses for his lack of effort, which he did in the last game I played with him where he was scum. His FL 'spew' excuse was particularly bad.

I'll agree A50 is much quieter than usual. But iirc he had some IRL stuff going on.

[NorwegianboyEE]

In that order listed.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Dolly

[NorwegianboyEE]

just another irritating lurker keep walking.

[Dolly Parton]

Nor

You've been one of my top TRs all game. Watching you destroy that is heart breaking.

What is the count? Am I at the claim stage?

[Dolly Parton]

just another irritating lurker keep walking.

Are you calling me a lurker?

I've been active since I replaced in. I had a busy weekend and not so much time for mafia but calling me a lurker is just nonsense.

[Luca Blight]

Dolly, can you explain why my wagon dissolving makes me town cleared?

[Luca Blight]

I feel like there's been an unreasonable amount of resistance to the A50 wagon this game, considering how easily others have been run up to L-2.

[Dolly Parton]

Dolly, can you explain why my wagon dissolving makes me town cleared?

I'm a team player. I would have stayed on until your lynching had it not dissolved. I don't think a scum!luca wagon looses steam.

[Dolly Parton]

I feel like there's been an unreasonable amount of resistance to the A50 wagon this game, considering how easily others have been run up to L-2.

I'm not against it albeit a major part of me wanting to vote there is out of survival tbh. What is the count on A50 right now?

[Luca Blight]

A50 only has two votes, which is the most he’s had all game.

Why would a Scum!Luca wagon not lose steam?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I feel like there's been an unreasonable amount of resistance to the A50 wagon this game, considering how easily others have been run up to L-2.

I'm not against it albeit a major part of me wanting to vote there is out of survival tbh. What is the count on A50 right now?

Im voting you out of survival here. There is no visible interest in voting Mena right now.

[Luca Blight]

NorwegianboyEE, what do you think of Menalque’s case against you?

And what do you think about the subsequent votes on your wagon?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Are you calling me a lurker?

I've been active since I replaced in. I had a busy weekend and not so much time for mafia but calling me a lurker is just nonsense.

I wasn't referring to you.

[NorwegianboyEE]

NorwegianboyEE, what do you think of Menalque’s case against you?

And what do you think about the subsequent votes on your wagon?

Oh yeah, i just finished my exam so i have time to look through it now.
I was under the impression that everyone was voting me, but looking at it most people unvoted. I didn't have time to respond to anything prior to the exam so i took emergency precautions. Should be fine now though. At least until my next one comes up.
UNVOTE:

[NorwegianboyEE]

The scum!indicative thing here is later on. He says in #173 that "Layla is looking more town right now". There's plenty of action in the game between #173 and #601, but there's no explanation for why Layla went from looking more town to being scummy again. In his top 3 SRs after Tea, in fact.

Lol really? So because i said Layla is looking a bit more town, yet put her as a scumlean in my first hurried reads list that makes me scummy? Epic fail argument. -1 credibility points for Menalque.
I like to constantly describe my thoughts, if someone sounds scummy or town i will say it. Does that mean i will 100% townbin or scumbin anyone at a given time? No.
Also, do you really expect my reads to remain static in a 18 player game when i didn't even remember the names of half the playerlist when i made that first reads list?

Then, Layla reps out. Norway has some interaction with hectic, but very little. Hectic comes up 6 times if you ctrl+f his name in Norway's ISO, and one of those posts is #931 suggesting that hectic is very scummy.

But then by the time of his readslist in #1358 hectic is back to "no strong stance" rather than being in the scummy pool.

This entire progression doesn't make sense based on how much hectic posted in the interim (or Layla for that matter) and especially doesn't make sense given Norway's expressed opinions on them.

So you're referring to this post:

Hectic now has -15 points.

Which is an obvious joke post.
And then claiming i'm scummy for putting him as "null" read in 1358 when this has been pretty much my read the whole time?
-5 credibility points for Menalque.

Okay, now let's look at Norways interactions around the FL slot. So we get the sudden FL vote, which is explained as coming from rereading the game in #175. We then have a number of posts on problems with FL and why his posting is scummy. NB: before this, Norway was voting for tea.

But then he COMPLETELY REVERSES HIS OPINION in #315 despite FL having NO INTERACTION with him in-between his initial FL vote and revoting tea with saying that "FL can be town for now". Like, he doesn't explain why his reasons for SRing FL became less valid, and also FL *unvotes his top scumspect immediately after Norway revotes tea*.

Yeah, i unvoted because nobody really cared to join my vote. And my scumcase wasn't that strong. Therefore i unvoted for the sake of joining an actual wagon.
Another twisting of events to suit your scum!me narrative.
-3 credibility points for Menalque.

Firstly, the fact that norway feels the need to provide an explanation specifically and uniquely for FL in his #601 readslist. And secondly his just strange behaviour around FL after the chemist guilty, where goes from asking for more discussion to aggressively insisting the lynch happen as fast as possible. It's an odd tonal shift.

Yeah, because we went from "Chemist might have an guilty" to: "Chemist totally exposed FL as obvious mafia" so therefore there was no need for anymore discussion in my opinion. Maybe you're different. But i don't really care much for keeping exposed mafia alive any more than necessary. Especially when he kept spouting bullshit and distracting everyone.
Why is this scum indicative again?
-1 credibility points for Menalque.
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The things you're writing about the tea wagon doesn't need any response, you're just wrong. I am proud of my handling of that slot, and i don't see how it makes me scum. No matter how much caps lock you use it isn't going to prove it otherwise.
-20 credibility points for Menalque.

When you add that to him being happy to vote both wake, dolly, and me coming into today, he's way too vote happy.

Unless you've got specific proof that i'm distracting from a wagon on one of my scum partners (in which case, you need to name who) this isn't scum indicative. Stop pretending it is.

And this pk shading based on him lynching wrong in a past game followed by a vote for him shortly after is also terrible, esp the "I'd sooner trust FL's words in his villainous breakdown rant than your reads" which is so hyperbolic and unnecessary:

Dude, my literal persona is hyperbolic and unnecessary. Town or scum. Don't believe me? Read page 29 of my towngame here: viewtopic.php?f=83&t=81377&start=700

I think all of the most damning evidence for norway!scum is listed above in the post.

NB: Also, wanted to mention: if norway flips red I think that Dunn is lock!scum p much. I haven't like deeply investigated this, but the impression I get from their interactions is horrible. Decided to mention now bc if we lynch norway, which we should, I almost certainly die tonight.

There is no damning evidence. Where? You got a guilty or something? Why are you unable to view my position from a town perspective?
I don't see why you connect me with Dunn, but if you've got anything specific examples you want to talk about go ahead.
And the reason i pointed out your last paragraph yesterday is because if you're town, i thought it would be really funny for you to have such a hubris that you actually believe "scum is going to nightkill me tommorow because of this!" when in reality i'd flip town and the mafia would keep you alive because you'd look scummy as fuck rallying the lynch against a town slot.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Pisskop is just a meme.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think faking hubris is the #1 thing he does as scum

You've only seen my scumgame once. Why do you act like you've got me all figured out? Especially that meta post earlier. It's a bit tryhardy.

[Luca Blight]

That’s a pretty good defence. I think NorwegianboyEE is Town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Post 1446 is pretty good and reinforces my townread of Tea.

[NorwegianboyEE]

when you reveal who you are

he magically forgets all of those and his previous SR

Yes because my whole reason for scumreading him was because i thought he was you. A person who'se scum and townplay i'm a bit more familiar with. But Chennisden is an entirely different person with entirely different tells.

[NorwegianboyEE]

before I just didn't really think about dolly because I was scumhunting elsewhere

Why oh why is Menalque ignoring the Dolly wagon so hard?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Menu's case on Norwee is actually pretty convincing.

VOTE: Norwee

I don't have a protect.

Hectic's random wagon join here is kinda awful.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Gonna need a vote count before i place a vote again. Need a refresher.

[Menalque]

That’s a pretty good defence. I think NorwegianboyEE is Town.

lol what, no it isn’t, it’s fucking atrocious