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Post Post #950 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:26 pm

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I have a pretty good track record with catching ScumTex, and I’m starting to lean scum there as well
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Post Post #951 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:27 pm

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Which coincides with my Sally town read and then bringing that up earlier, and nothing coming from it
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Post Post #952 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:31 pm

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i dont rly think creature is scum tbh
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Post Post #953 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:36 pm

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In post 952, DrDolittle wrote:i dont rly think creature is scum tbh
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Post Post #954 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:50 pm

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I mean I don't particularly think he is either but I think he's the best out of the current wagon options.
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Post Post #955 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:54 pm

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There’s always other options.
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Post Post #956 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:59 pm

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Wanna talk about ?

Why does scumconeum post that if Amrun is town?
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Post Post #957 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:07 pm

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In post 731, Iconeum wrote:And also, Amrun should always be the lynch today.

If we lynch anyone else, it won't even matter what they flip, Amrun is still gonna be hot tomorrow. Better off lynching today and working from there (with wagon information from today). I know a bunch of players who are gonna look pretty ropey if Amrun flips red.

It's just the best lynch.
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I know youre going to tell me its more about the other stuff he says but I don't see much of a difference between these two posts. Iconeum wants Amrun dead because hes scum apparently, and hasn't done anything since being asked by Menal to do so. Why is he doing it? Probably because he can get away with it in this game?
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Post Post #958 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:08 pm

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at the risk of sounding crazy I'm rereading and starting to have doubts about my alimdia scumread

I also think Sala keyed in on something insightful regarding a Creature wagon in that he's a good candidate to make people put their money where their mouth is in terms of reads on him - townie sounding opening but disappeared since, that's a tough slot to evaluate and I think forcing the issue on him in particular generates new & useful information.
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Post Post #959 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:09 pm

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I'm going back to reread some of these pages but let me just inform yall that:

We have about 7-8 pages just today after SS and I voted creature. Theres been some good discussion on whether or not to vote him, which is why I feel this was the right wagon to be on honestly.
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Post Post #960 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:41 pm

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I don't have an issue with Datisi or GL votes on creature if you ask me.
In post 799, DogWatch wrote:My problem right now is that my two top scum reads don't make much sense together. GL and Creature BOTH being scum seems really unlikely considering how fast they jumped the amrun wagon one after the other, and I know they're both better players than to do something that sloppy and obvious if the efforts were scum-coordinated.
SCUM with Creature. Maybe scum regardless.

I doubt you have little reason to not be voting creature right now since its the stronger read. And I doubt there has been anything that would make GL worse than creature.
In post 804, Menalque wrote:Creature is not the worst wagon but ddl is better
So I fought with Menal about this earlier but lets be real. Is DDL actually scum?

Can we look at his iso, which is full of active lurking and say with confidence that DDL being scum is more likely than Creature/DW/Pret/Tex?

DDL seems to be playing like he did in fortnite where he was town. It was barely a game but its something I can relate to. I'm just not interested in his lynch, and I'm not sure why Menal is so determined to get DDL unless Menal is scum with creature.
In post 845, GuiltyLion wrote:can I also be very likely town on a Creature scumflip?
Probably given that you are the "Counter-Wagon" I'd like your chances of you being town on creaturescum.
In post 849, Menalque wrote:I’ll get through and find what exactly the ddl lynch gives me once I’m pushing it harder

But basically it’s meeting a lot of resistance, IMO more than anyone so far and that gives me good vibes

Probably the vice versa of what you just said, ie +scum on you and SS

Plus it basically locktowns me
I don't know if its "resistance," I think its more that no one gives a fuck about a guy being a MEME.

I mean, if I said Texcat was scum and voted texcat, would people follow? Probably not.

I will give you credit that I'm shocked that no one joined you on DDL, but the amrun wagon got started by you ASKING ico and datisi to join on it. So I think its not as resistant as you think.
Amrun wrote:@all: Creature is posting elsewhere on site FWIW
Yeah I knew that, which makes this more fucking sus.
In post 856, DrDolittle wrote:people should go back onto amrun though

she's not playing town-amrun
Who the fuck is Amrun again and why is she scum? (THATS SARCASM SS DONT FUCKING START)
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In post 854, Amrun wrote:Creature is posting elsewhere on site FWIW
So am I
No one cares boon youre getting lynched before lylo.
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In post 874, Pretentious wrote:
In post 795, Datisi wrote:Is there really no other reasoning you've kept your vote on GL, @texcat? Nothing else from him you find AI one way or the other?

VOTE: Creature

I don't wanna flip GL. I'm still okay going back to Amrun if possible, but I'm definitely not impressed by Creature so far either.
This is scum
Go on
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Post Post #961 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:48 pm

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In post 960, Salamence20 wrote:(THATS SARCASM SS DONT FUCKING START)
Lmao
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Post Post #962 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:53 pm

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Damn I forgot that Dogwatch comment about Creature meta earlier in the game, good recall. That does make her hesitance to vote him look a lot worse
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Post Post #963 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2019 3:55 pm

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amrun town is very town and I don't see that this game

the fact that she has been sus'd by other players this game also show that her-not-so-town presence is not just a one-of me feeling, nor that it is entirely scum driven.
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Post Post #964 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2019 4:01 pm

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VoteCount 1.6


amrun [3] - Iconeum, Creature, DrDolittle
GuiltyLion [4] - texcat, AaronFrost, Dogwatch, alimdia
DrDolittle [2] - Menalque, Amrun
Creature [4] - Salamence20, Something_Smart, GuiltyLion, Datisi
Datisi [1] - Pretentious

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Post Post #965 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2019 4:28 pm

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In post 963, DrDolittle wrote:amrun town is very town and I don't see that this game

the fact that she has been sus'd by other players this game also show that her-not-so-town presence is not just a one-of me feeling, nor that it is entirely scum driven.

What is this even based off? It’s not true.

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Post Post #966 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2019 4:42 pm

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based on trollie's macbeth game, jason's bang mafia, and the most recent mini
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Post Post #967 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2019 4:44 pm

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Apologies in advance if I'm not super active this week. College finals are a bitch.

I only really skimmed the last few pages but damn that Creature wagon kind of came out of nowhere. I think I'd still prefer a GL lynch today but I'd be willing to go Creature as well.

Don't really like SS's adamant defense of GL.
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Post Post #968 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2019 4:48 pm

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In post 900, Pretentious wrote:Frosty the Zote man, what do you think about the Datisi slot?
Last time I played with her she was scum who deepwolfed and got me mislynched in lylo so I'll never trust her again.

But in all seriousness, this game I'm not getting the same try-hard to look town vibes from her. She feels a lot more laid back here so I'd put her at a nullish-townlean.
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Post Post #969 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2019 4:49 pm

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In post 962, GuiltyLion wrote:Damn I forgot that Dogwatch comment about Creature meta earlier in the game, good recall. That does make her hesitance to vote him look a lot worse
My hesitancy to vote him centers partly on questioning whether or not that meta is old/outdated, as I alluded to at some point earlier, and partly due to lack of reactions from him to anything that’s recently happened. You even said yourself that his inactivity is difficult to evaluate so I’m not following why you’d expect me to switch votes when there’s so much ambiguity at play anyway.
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Post Post #970 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2019 4:51 pm

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In post 967, AaronFrost wrote:Don't really like SS's adamant defense of GL.
Why not?
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Post Post #971 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2019 4:54 pm

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In post 966, DrDolittle wrote:based on trollie's macbeth game, jason's bang mafia, and the most recent mini
I don’t remember the other games specifically, but in the mini I mishammered in LyLo and I was literally lynched day 1 In the game I won my scummy for.-.-

I am either mislynched early or NK early, back in the day. It depended on the player list back then. And in the mini I replaced in day 4 so it’s not the same. My early game play is frequently perceived as scummy.
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Post Post #972 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2019 5:11 pm

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In post 954, Something_Smart wrote:I mean I don't particularly think he is either but I think he's the best out of the current wagon options.
Talk to me about this please.
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Post Post #973 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2019 5:31 pm

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maybe you rub people off the wrong way d1 and get mislynched idk, but i recall that you are scary accurate/incisive (even in that day 4 game you replaced in), and this game, you feel just soft
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Post Post #974 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2019 5:33 pm

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like where are you catching the bad guys? i just don't see it.
and i could understand you're wrong, but there's just nothing in the iso to see that is particularly amrun-town-y

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