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Post Post #1200 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:33 am

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In post 1197, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1195, GuiltyLion wrote:I still think my pre-Creature-returning-to-thread read of "nobody is bussing Creature if he's scum" is solid
Well man, if that's true, he should be probably town, right?

How often does an L-1 wagon rise that quickly with scum avoiding it?
nah not really? I gave a bunch of candidates for partners with Creature who aren't on this wagon. Menalque being the spicy one, DogWatch, Pretentious, texcat if the Creature townread winds up more WIFOM than TMI, etc.

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Post Post #1201 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:34 am

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In post 1195, GuiltyLion wrote:I still think my pre-Creature-returning-to-thread read of "nobody is bussing Creature if he's scum" is solid
That's wrong af

It's rule for scum to bus the fuck out of me if I ever fall off slightly
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Post Post #1202 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:35 am

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Datish
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Post Post #1203 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:38 am

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I don’t think a fast wagon at deadline is a tell at all.
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Post Post #1204 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:38 am

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In post 1202, Creature wrote:Datish
Amrun
DrDolittle
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Pick one to lynch
Datisi, the wagon that started it all, the wagon Menal wants, and the wagon Menal diverted the amrun wagon with.

Fucking hate all of this
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Post Post #1205 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:39 am

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In post 1191, DrDolittle wrote:Ok so creature1 you need to provide like 2 3 games where you perfectly read Aaron since we are in a verifiable he say she say situation
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Post Post #1206 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:40 am

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Cant. Hes currently in game #2 with aaron
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Post Post #1207 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:43 am

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and also to reiterate in case y'all missed it in game #1 there's little to no evidence that Creature thought AF was "obvious" town. "Town" sure, but in his last post sequence he went from saying one post was fake to another being "probably" genuine. I'd say Creature is worth lynching today for that alone, tbh, it doesn't feel genuine.
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Post Post #1208 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:34 am

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VoteCount 1.8


GuiltyLion [3] - texcat, Dogwatch, alimdia
DrDolittle [1] - Menalque
Creature [5] - Salamence20, GuiltyLion, Datisi, Amrun, AaronFrost
Datisi [1] - Pretentious
Salamence20 [1] - Iconeum
AaronFrost [3] - Creature, Something_Smart, DrDolittle

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Post Post #1209 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:03 pm

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I think I’d most like to lynch creature today.
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Post Post #1210 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:10 pm

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In post 1207, GuiltyLion wrote:and also to reiterate in case y'all missed it in game #1 there's little to no evidence that Creature thought AF was "obvious" town. "Town" sure, but in his last post sequence he went from saying one post was fake to another being "probably" genuine. I'd say Creature is worth lynching today for that alone, tbh, it doesn't feel genuine.
Where is that? I just ISOd him and saw no such thing.
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Post Post #1211 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:12 pm

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In post 1123, Creature wrote:He has been my pet scumread the entire game

I never actually townread him although he's quite obvious as town

Whenever I saw him posting it seemed to scream scum

Now his vote on me just seals it

He's just scum
In post 1124, Creature wrote:The tell is pretty obvious:

If it's a player I can immediately tell it's town and I can't tell it's town this game in any way, it means it's just scum
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In post 1166, GuiltyLion wrote: I also didn't find evidence that you especially obvtownread him in that game - you didn't push him or scumread him, but you did call one of his posts fake and the closest you gave to a townread was saying another post was "probably" genuine.
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Post Post #1212 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:20 pm

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Oh I’m sorry, you were referencing a whole other game, no wonder.
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Post Post #1213 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:46 pm

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Ive decided that I should out my hand since there is a possibility i could be N1.

With careful consideration, Ive decided to park on Creature. I will not move my vote even if it means going NL.

A creature scumflip means Im willing to give SS the benefit of the doubt because I dont think scumSS would be so obvious to switch off a bus. Id also townread GL and Amrun would be ok. Id take my looks at Icon/Datisi/Menal and Almidia/DW for creatures partners. DDL could be another busser but hes vigbait/not going to endgame anyways.

A creature townflip raises my eyebrows at SS, I would have to look more into the wagons but theres scum in GL/Amrun/AF, pretentious looks like he could be informed, and DW/Almidia would look good enough keep around for awhile.

Right now I think Menal is town, SS is my super serious partner in crime until further notice, GL looks towny, Pretentious/DDL/Icon/Tex die before endgame. DW is slimy, Almidia idk, Datisi is questionable.

I missed some but I dont care. Consider them whatever.

Also: Setup Spec needs to come into play tomorrow. Why does town have so many roses? Why should I believe aggressive players like Menal would not have a gun. Boon and Ico also would be people I expect to have a gun. Creature? I can only imagine like 4-5 players picking rose. Either town was fearful of not getting enough roses or scum is a bunch of meme players (icon/pret/DDL/texcat)
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Post Post #1214 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:24 pm

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roses remaining are town roses sally
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Post Post #1215 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:24 pm

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PS im very much planning to go to endgame tyvm
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Post Post #1216 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:28 pm

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In post 1213, Salamence20 wrote:Also: Setup Spec needs to come into play tomorrow. Why does town have so many roses?
I think even tomorrow's probably too early for that.

But eventually, sure.

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Post Post #1217 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:28 pm

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Oh great, we pretty much lost a vote
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Post Post #1218 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:28 pm

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Nolynch it is then
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Post Post #1219 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:30 pm

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Oh well, today is the perfect day to screw up as town anyway
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Post Post #1220 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:30 pm

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Wished I could have just randed scum at least once
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Post Post #1221 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:31 pm

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but fuck this anyway
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Post Post #1222 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:31 pm

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In post 1118, Creature wrote:Amrun
Salamence20

Dogwatch
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Iconeum

Menalque
Creature

DrDolittle
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Datisi
AaronFrost
Pretentious
My townreads are still this, but I'd add DrDolittle
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Post Post #1223 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:31 pm

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Amrun and AaronFrost haven't done shit for me to change my opinion on them
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Post Post #1224 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:32 pm

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GuiltyLion, what the fucking fuck?

Already told you it was a mistake and I'm not supposed to tell you anything else.
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