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Post Post #150 (ISO) » Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:47 am

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WHAT THE FUCK DID YALL DO?

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Post Post #151 (ISO) » Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:49 am

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What a strange target.
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Post Post #152 (ISO) » Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:50 am

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are pops pp or chem incentivised to kill NUbers?
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Post Post #153 (ISO) » Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:50 am

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In post 151, PenguinPower wrote:What a strange target.
yeah this exactly
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Post Post #154 (ISO) » Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:50 am

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I know I said I am 90% sure that being able to change the list breaks the Monty Hall
But now I'm like 60% sure
like, does putting protect at L-1 and forcing scum to change the list create something that is equivalent to selecting a door? or does it create something equivalent to that door no longer being among the doors of interest and thereby becoming moot?

It's kind of important, if the monty hall effect isn't removed, the worst is less likely than normal to be scum now, if the monty hall effect is removed, there is only an infinitesimal extent to which he's different from rand, since Elsa, Bingle and conftown nuubers were the ones who were inactive so he's only less likely to be scum if it's exactly Elsa Bingle

Does the statement "less likely to be scum" even have meaning if it's contingent on naming an entire scumteam which sets everyone else to 0?

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however she has changed her avatar to Misdreavus
So I kind of feel like I have my win condition no matter what
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #155 (ISO) » Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:50 am

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Us getting poison makes me think PP is scum.

Picking us is meme-worthy. Wtf is Pops doing? Let me look at something.

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Post Post #156 (ISO) » Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:51 am

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In post 155, NU Ubers wrote:Us getting poison makes me think PP is scum.
? why...
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Post Post #157 (ISO) » Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:52 am

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What was the unstrange target for an NK in this list?
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #158 (ISO) » Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:52 am

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my vanity is flaring up so i'm just gonna get this off my chest

was i actually protected there?
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Post Post #159 (ISO) » Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:53 am

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In post 157, popsofctown wrote:What was the unstrange target for an NK in this list?
Pretty much anyone other than the hydra.
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Post Post #160 (ISO) » Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:53 am

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In post 158, the worst wrote:my vanity is flaring up so i'm just gonna get this off my chest

was i actually protected there?
Do you think Nu Ubers would have been anyone's first choice for a kill?
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Post Post #161 (ISO) » Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:54 am

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In post 157, popsofctown wrote:What was the unstrange target for an NK in this list?
Like anyone other than NUbers tbh
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Post Post #162 (ISO) » Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:55 am

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In post 156, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 155, NU Ubers wrote:Us getting poison makes me think PP is scum.
? why...
In post 160, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 158, the worst wrote:my vanity is flaring up so i'm just gonna get this off my chest

was i actually protected there?
Do you think Nu Ubers would have been anyone's first choice for a kill?
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Post Post #163 (ISO) » Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:55 am

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When Bingle gets here I want him to help me figure out whether tw actually has a murky sanity cop clear effect even if an active player was scum

I am confused enough to need help but not confused enough that scum!Bingle would feel safe giving me inadequate assistance, both Bingles have to crack it for me
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Post Post #164 (ISO) » Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:55 am

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In post 160, PenguinPower wrote:Do you think Nu Ubers would have been anyone's first choice for a kill?
that's kinda what i'm wondering

i'm interested to see why you're pinging NUbers - my mind went to pops for a second after her post about the sala/spamposting thing

don't really think that's very damning tho and she's also probably just town
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Post Post #165 (ISO) » Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:56 am

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That's not really an answer - and you definitely wouldn't have been my first choice.
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Post Post #166 (ISO) » Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:57 am

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Sala what's got you sussing PP?
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Post Post #167 (ISO) » Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:58 am

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I think your mileage may vary on whether Gamma can clear his own slot as town but I haven't been scared of him as a solver, no offense. But I know Salamence played lots and lots here, but it was while I was on hiatus. I assume he's good so it's at least as good as 2 gammas and a good shot?
Is there a standard accepted MD reasons shooting hydras is bad?
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Post Post #168 (ISO) » Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:58 am

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Idk feels like a grudge kill to me.

PP was here during hammer so he could have adjusted the list but then why us over pops/bingle?
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Post Post #169 (ISO) » Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:59 am

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Why do you think I have a grudge? I don't even know you.
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Post Post #170 (ISO) » Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:03 am

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My stance to any opinions on my guestimations on PP's characteristics is "stand corrected" btw. Mostly inferences about "average players" and how threadcheck frequency relates to post frequency.
Or worse underestimating his post frequency due to the length of his posts

Hopefully if I call PP "not a wallposter" that's not a mischaracterization
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Post Post #171 (ISO) » Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:04 am

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Gun to my head right now I think its Bingle/Chemist (TW was top, we were second)

I need to stop talking until I can reread and get with my other head.

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Post Post #172 (ISO) » Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:06 am

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yeah, i'm leaning into quieter slots as well

i'm kinda thinking after all the noise i made yday about being mislynchable and a bad n1 kill i might have swung over the nk through sheer wifom but picking NUbers in that vacuum doesn't feel like a conscious decision - it felt to me like a ?compromise? kill

basically i don't feel like the list was switched

nubers are obviously cleared; i also think pops and pp are more than likely town
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Post Post #173 (ISO) » Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:09 am

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In post 170, popsofctown wrote:My stance to any opinions on my guestimations on PP's characteristics is "stand corrected" btw. Mostly inferences about "average players" and how threadcheck frequency relates to post frequency.
Or worse underestimating his post frequency due to the length of his posts

Hopefully if I call PP "not a wallposter" that's not a mischaracterization
I'm going to start wallposting now.
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Post Post #174 (ISO) » Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:12 am

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