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[Menalque]

What did you think was towny about past!me?

[Hectic]

Don't remember now. I checked through their ISO a few days ago, and think I agreed with most their opinions.

Care to explain 1948?

[davesaz]

My time is limited today

, need to drive ~4 hours round trip to get my daughter from the airport, and my son has a concert. It's been fairly crazy for a couple of weeks...
I may finally have a handle on reading A50, pretty happy about that.
To distinguish between vig and sk I'd need to do a closer review of things. Both are hunting mafia but from different angles.

Scummy post IMO because you come in and start talking about vig/sk but it doesn't matter - you should be looking for mafia today, and maybe explain why you hammered when you did

I should not be surprised that you ignore the first sentence which is the most important one.

I had exactly enough time to make a comment on some of the most recent discussion at that time. People were discussing sk vs. vig.

Claims something + self votes => scum ate trying to get out of lynch. Sometimes that equation is wrong, and it's a bummer when it is, but I thought it was the right move.

[davesaz]

Don't worry Luca, nobody thinks you're SK, an odd night SK would be a very cruel punishment indeed

The odd night part of the claim could be a ruse to explain the missing N2 kill.
In rebuttal to Luca's question about outing it being suicidal for a SK, if you compare that with getting lynched maybe not.
Despite that I think he's probably vig anyway, that being the hypothesis with the fewest holes.
I think I was TR him before but my brain is mush after being on the go darn near all day yesterday.

[davesaz]

Davesaz looks terribly scummy right now as well, though.

Here’s an idea, as I’m dying tonight anyway why not make the ‘scummy five’ all claim today?

Members of the scummy five being, Menalque, Wake, Dolly, Davesaz, Pisskop.

I think it may help scum more than town, but won't mind doing it if most of my TRs want it.

[davesaz]

The odd night part of the claim could be a ruse to explain the missing N2 kill.
In rebuttal to Luca's question about outing it being suicidal for a SK, if you compare that with getting lynched maybe not.Despite that I think he's probably vig anyway, that being the hypothesis with the fewest holes.
I think I was TR him before but my brain is mush after being on the go darn near all day yesterday.

I should probably anticipate a question about this, that being "if you think he's vig then why mention this?"

Because it's the right thing to do, that's why. Not to mention, it's what I do.

[davesaz]

Annoyingly enough, Mene's predecessor was towny

What dark place did you pull this out of? The opposite is true, split was hella scummy and Menalque is better.

[Hectic]

Annoyingly enough, Mene's predecessor was towny

What dark place did you pull this out of? The opposite is true, split was hella scummy and Menalque is better.

I just recall agreeing with everything he was saying early on. All of his early reads made sense to me. Maybe I'l reISO him at some point if you feel so strongly against it.

Also, too early to mass claim, Luca. I can heal you tonight so it just lets scum kill the second best target, or even potentially a higher priority target if any of your proposed 5 turn out to be investigatives for example.

[davesaz]

Absolutely null: Pmysterious12, Fish Monger, Billy Pilgrim, Dunnstral, Wake88, splitfarvle

Noting this for further analysis.

[Menalque]

okay so gamestate says Luca is probably scum

pk why do you TR norway?

I have another pet SR but we should lynch Luca today prob

What's the reason for this? What about the gamestate?

Don't know if you answered this.
What made you shift focus from Luca to Norwegian?

I had been reading Norwegian's fluidity as townish without paying much attention to the context. With the context it looks much worse.

Luca convinced me look again at the wagons today and the fact he was possibly a counterwagon to wake

I remembered being pinged somewhat when I was reading the game a few days ago by Norway so I decided to deepdive his ISO, which I did, and concluded that he’s scum

What?
You thought Luca was scum because he was a counterwagon to Wake?
Or you thought he's scum because he led you towards the Norwee!scum route?

First one

[Menalque]

Annoyingly enough, Mene's predecessor was towny

What dark place did you pull this out of? The opposite is true, split was hella scummy and Menalque is better.

I just recall agreeing with everything he was saying early on. All of his early reads made sense to me. Maybe I'l reISO him at some point if you feel so strongly against it.

Also, too early to mass claim, Luca.

I can heal you tonight

so it just lets scum kill the second best target, or even potentially a higher priority target if any of your proposed 5 turn out to be investigatives for example.

?

???

[davesaz]

A50's null list updated for flips and replacements. Kinda expecting 1 scum in this.

Pmysterious

, pisskop,

Billy Pilgrim

, Dunnstral, Wake88, Menalque

[davesaz]

Re: 1960 that isn't the first time Hectic mentioned healing someone.
I think his previous promised heal died anyway but I'd need to search to know for sure.
Don't remember if Gamma posted any RB targets.

[Luca Blight]

I agree that there was nothing townie about Menalque’s predecessor.

[Dunnstral]

So The Final Scum:

Dave and Pisskop.

***Maybe Wake/Hectic.
****Prolly not Hectic
*****Wake maybe.

What’s your read on Menalque?

What’s your read on Menalque?

Spamming scum comes to mind tbh after a quick ISO skim.

I thought you scumread me?

[Menalque]

VOTE: Menalque

I think I prefer this over a Dolly lynch right now.

I don’t like how he’s zoned in on certain slots and basically ignored others. I don’t like his tunneling of Norwegian. I don’t like how he enters the day excusing his play from Yesterday before just sheeping me - he lacks curiosity in this game and hasn’t done much to sort anyone.

I don’t like how he tried to set me up upon entering the thread based purely on how he interpreted the wagons.

He also seems to be missing things as though he’s skimming and not reading properly

.

Oh yeah, also

Who do you think is more likely to be poorly informed on the game

Scum!me who repped in and had a pt to ask whatever I needed to know

Or town!me who repped in with about 2 days to deadline (3?) and had to try and process as much as possible in that time

Still haven’t completely a linear readthrough, I’ve been working more on ISOs when possible

[Menalque]

I also think it’s mental not to TR me for yesterday but *shrug*

[Luca Blight]

I was TR’ing you Yesterday, and I wish Norwegian played his hand better as it would have been interesting to see how you reacted. As it were, I think you should have taken a step back to consider after the claim, but I can’t entirely blame you for how it went down.

I’m more SR’ing you for your general play. It feels weird how you came in, tried to target me based only on the wagons and then went full pelt at Norwegian without taking any time to sort anyone else. I tried to engage you on A50 but you brushed it away. I don’t like how you’ve started D4 - you’re not doing anything to solve the game right now.

[Luca Blight]

Don't worry Luca, nobody thinks you're SK, an odd night SK would be a very cruel punishment indeed

The odd night part of the claim could be a ruse to explain the missing N2 kill.
In rebuttal to Luca's question about outing it being suicidal for a SK, if you compare that with getting lynched maybe not.
Despite that I think he's probably vig anyway, that being the hypothesis with the fewest holes.
I think I was TR him before but my brain is mush after being on the go darn near all day yesterday.

The last bit seems weird - you said I was obvious Town when I was wagoned D3, but now you can barely remember TR’ing me? I should be more obviously town than ever after that claim.

[Tea]

Im feeling weirdly lukewarm on a dolly lynch and weirdly recipient to a dave lynch.

[Tea]

Dolly's slot is tearjerkingly bad but Dave's is sort of "play it safe" bad

[Luca Blight]

What about the other three - Menalque, Wake and Pisskop?

[Dunnstral]

I haven't heard a reason to lynch Pisskop yet

[davesaz]

Don't worry Luca, nobody thinks you're SK, an odd night SK would be a very cruel punishment indeed

The odd night part of the claim could be a ruse to explain the missing N2 kill.
In rebuttal to Luca's question about outing it being suicidal for a SK, if you compare that with getting lynched maybe not.
Despite that I think he's probably vig anyway, that being the hypothesis with the fewest holes.
I think I was TR him before but my brain is mush after being on the go darn near all day yesterday.

The last bit seems weird - you said I was obvious Town when I was wagoned D3, but now you can barely remember TR’ing me? I should be more obviously town than ever after that claim.

When I say it's mush, it's mush. I'm 58. I read my own iso to be sure of things. Kindly don't question that.

[davesaz]

Dolly's slot is tearjerkingly bad but Dave's is sort of "play it safe" bad

If you're questioning my comments about rl you're lucky I'm on the phone rn and don't want to fuck with trying to format this comment properly. Never ever question what i say about rl distractions.