Codenames (Game 65 in progress)

[OkaPoka]

:0

[StrangerCoug]

At this point I feel like I have poorly handled the situation about Pine's clue, and I'm not sure what solution would be satisfactory to both teams other than start over with a new grid. If a majority on both teams agree, I'll make a new grid with the teams remaining as they are (down to keeping their spymasters); if enough objections happen to prevent that, the game will continue in its current state. Votes must be public.

[Menalque]

My proposition is as follows:

We play out this round. If we successfully guess all 4 words, and the other team objects to this being counter as a win due to the clue situation, we call it a draw and proceed to play again with teams as they are and a new grid.

However, if we fail to correctly identify all 4 words, I think the game should continue because the other team would very likely win with Haschel’s next clue and it seems unfair to deprive them of a win for something that happened on our turn.

[Formerfish]

exceptional circumstance

I didn't realize drunk posting was exceptional circumstances.

[Formerfish]

I'm sorry. I don't mean to bitch about this. It's a game and I like all of you playing, so I'm not looking to stick it to anyone, I just feel weird about the whole thing.

I like Menas idea.

[StrangerCoug]

I will allow voting on Menalque's proposal as an alternative to mine.

[Datisi]

If the opponent team agrees to it (because I might still have not read their discussion and so have no idea on the actual gamestate), I am fine with Mena's idea as well.

[OkaPoka]

I am ok w mena

[xofelf]

I accept Mena's proposition.

[Formerfish]

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[KittyMo]

I can finish this out with my team but I don't think I'm interested in playing a second round, redo or not. Sorry!

[Chemist1422]

/in for next

hi it’s been a while

[Pine]

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Both are blue.

[Menalque]

So do we go belt, beach?

[OkaPoka]

i support that

[Datisi]

I'm down

[OkaPoka]

belt

[Pine]

blue

[OkaPoka]

beach

[StrangerCoug]

BRUSH	LASER	RACKET	DRAGON	DIAMOND
THUMB	LIGHT	BELT	ROULETTE	PUPIL
LINK	REVOLUTION	BAR	CYCLE	ROW
CLUB	DEGREE	SATELLITE	POLE	SHADOW
BEACH	ROOT	ROME	SPIDER	GLOVE

Team	Spymaster	Field operatives
Red team	Haschel Cedricson	KittyMo, Formerfish, xofelf
Blue team	Pine	Menalque, Datisi, OkaPoka

[OkaPoka]

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Both are blue.

[StrangerCoug]

BRUSH	LASER	RACKET	DRAGON	DIAMOND
THUMB	LIGHT	BELT	ROULETTE	PUPIL
LINK	REVOLUTION	BAR	CYCLE	ROW
CLUB	DEGREE	SATELLITE	POLE	SHADOW
BEACH	ROOT	ROME	SPIDER	GLOVE

Team	Spymaster	Field operatives
Red team	Haschel Cedricson	KittyMo, Formerfish, xofelf
Blue team	Pine	Menalque, Datisi, OkaPoka

And at this point we're basically waiting on red to see if you've won fair and square now

[Pine]

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They got these too, that's game.

Look, I can understand why the mod action pissed you off, reds, but it was a simple error on my part. The 0/unlimited rule doesn't come up often, and I made a straightforward error. The intent was pretty clear - bodybuilder was meant to point to Belt and Beach, not away from it. In my local tabletop group, we dispense entirely with the limitations on guessing, with the number reduced only to a guideline on how many clues it's referencing. We let players guess until they pass or get one wrong. IIRC, the recent usage of /0 was the first time I've actually seen it used, and it got conflated with the intended unlimited.

Sorry to have screwed this up, it was otherwise a nailbiter of a game. I'll /out for a game or two.

[KittyMo]

I get that, and in fact I think there's a pretty decent chance your team wins even if no action was taken. I just literally can't think of a single situation where changing a clue, particularly after discussion that is happening in response to that clue suggests the clue might have been misleading, fits the spirit of the rules. This is even a forum setting without the same time pressure to give clues without checking the rules or to come up with clues in general! I don't think there was any bad intent with this situation or with the googling, but the combination of both made the game more frustrating for me. The rules could have more obviously stated no googling, but the fact that I wasn't googling the movie I had never heard of and instead having to confirm that it even was a movie with my teammates was at the very least a context clue that google may not be an option.

[Pine]

I'd forgotten about the googling.

In aggregate, I'd be okay calling this a draw and moving on.