Grand Idea Mafia

[Gamma Emerald]

Town Braggart

If you end the day on the wagon of an anti-town aligned player, the mod must post “<Player> is exceptionally proud of their vote” when the flip happens.

[TemporalLich]

True GPick

You must pick a page from Grand Idea Mafia during pregame. The moderator must roll a random role from that page and give you that role card, including alignment.

[Gamma Emerald]

GPick-Cop

(alignment up to mod discretion)
Every night, may check a player to determine which page of this thread their role is on.

[Gamma Emerald]

AntiGPick-Cop

Every night, may check a player to determine what position on the page in this thread their post has, from 0-24. (position determined by subtracting 1 from the page number the role has, multiplying the result by 25, and then subtracting that from the post number)

[TemporalLich]

Multiple of 7 Roll

The moderator rolls a number from 0 to the number equal to the amount of roles in the Grand Idea Mafia thread divided by 7 and rounded down.

The moderator then multiplies that number by 7 and gives you the role card corresponding to that number.

[Something_Smart]

Red Herring

The player who gets this role may post any role they like in this thread before the game starts. If they do, they are a

Town Virgin

(if they die at night, the next night is skipped). If they don't, they are a VT.

[callforjudgement]

Reroll until you find a role that isn't repeated anywhere on the same page (even with a different alignment)

Player-selected role with a twist

The player who gets this can create whatever role they want for themselves, but they must post it in this thread before the game starts.
If Ircher is spamming full pages then I will too. Plus it creates more chance for this to be selected.

Fair warning: if I ever run Grand Idea, I will reroll any role that people have posted multiple times in a row in an apparent attempt to increase its probability, because IMO that's counter to the spirit of Grand Idea.

I will also reroll any role that I think makes the game unfun, unplayable, or so badly balanced that the gameplay is mostly irrelevant. This isn't meant to be the Worst Role Ideas thread, after all, and it's more fun when your actions in the game actually matter.

Player-selected roles are completely broken due to the "play to win" rule; if you post anything other than "this role automatically wins" or the like, you're violating the rules. Requiring them to be posted in-thread thus becomes even worse, because the resulting utterly overpowered role will have a chance to be selected in other games and ruin them too.

[Gamma Emerald]

I think that’s a very foolish way to view “play to win”. Tbh I think that rule is kinda weird and don’t exactly recall why it exists? Plus sure I could auto-win but that isn’t fun. I play Mafia to have fun, and winning is just meant to be something to make it more fun. “Press button to win” is exceptionally boring.
And like you say you’d reroll those things, does that mean you’d also reroll the large amounts of “reroll with opposite alignment” cards? Doesn’t seem like a sensible policy if so, and will likely result in all Grand Idea games you mod being heavily metagamed.

[TemporalLich]

Unrepeated Townie

If this role is repeated anywhere on the same page, this role is instead a Voteless Serial Killer.

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I think that’s a very foolish way to view “play to win”. Tbh I think that rule is kinda weird and don’t exactly recall why it exists? Plus sure I could auto-win but that isn’t fun. I play Mafia to have fun, and winning is just meant to be something to make it more fun. “Press button to win” is exceptionally boring.
And like you say you’d reroll those things, does that mean you’d also reroll the large amounts of “reroll with opposite alignment” cards? Doesn’t seem like a sensible policy if so, and will likely result in all Grand Idea games you mod being heavily metagamed.

Think of "Grand Idea but with no ballot stuffing" as a Grand Idea mutation. It isn't a pure Grand Idea game (which only omits roles deemed to be broken or unfun, which the player selected role will likely be, an instawin role is both broken and unfun), but it is a viable game if you don't want spammed roles.

[TemporalLich]

CfJ Clause

Reroll all roles that are repeated anywhere on the same page or is posted as a pagebottom and then a pagetop in the next page. Alignments aren't taken into account for the CfJ Clause.

Giving an actual name to not wanting spammed roles here, this is optional and I think it is more in the spirit of Grand Idea to not play by the CfJ Clause (unless of course this role is rolled!)

Also consider that 0 and 1 are exact duplicates role-wise! And page 2 has 25 - 28 being exact duplicates as well.

Alternate name: Dupes Clause

[Gamma Emerald]

Shiny Clause

Find a role that only exists in the Grand Idea Thread, selected either by choice or RNG. That role is given to the player who rolls this.
Since you bring up Dupes Clause...

[TemporalLich]

Town Alignment Color Shuffler

The alignment colors for

Town

,

Mafia

,

Werewolf

,

Alien

, and

Third Party

(and

Hostile Third Party (Serial Killer and the like)

if you have a separate alignment color for them) are randomly shuffled.

Specific alignment colors for third parties other than Serial Killers (e.g. if you color

Jesters

like this) are nullified and treated as Third Party by this role.

[callforjudgement]

Reroll, alignment reversed

I think that’s a very foolish way to view “play to win”. Tbh I think that rule is kinda weird and don’t exactly recall why it exists? Plus sure I could auto-win but that isn’t fun. I play Mafia to have fun, and winning is just meant to be something to make it more fun. “Press button to win” is exceptionally boring.
And like you say you’d reroll those things, does that mean you’d also reroll the large amounts of “reroll with opposite alignment” cards? Doesn’t seem like a sensible policy if so, and will likely result in all Grand Idea games you mod being heavily metagamed.

The play-to-win rule is important in any team game (including Mafia), because it's not fair on some of the players if their team-mates aren't trying their hardest. Perhaps it shouldn't be enforced on third parties.

My plan for rerolling duplicated roles was to only enforce it if the same role had been posted several times in a row (rather than remembering "that's a good role, I should post it again" some time later).

[Invisibility]

Student

You start the game as a factionless survivor. At the end of D1, you have to choose one person. You join that person's faction and become a backup version of their role, meaning you get their role when they die. If they die N1, you still get their role.

[Invisibility]

Student

You start the game as a factionless survivor. At the end of D1, you have to choose one person. You join that person's faction and become a backup version of their role, meaning you get their role when they die. If they die N1, you still get their role.

[Invisibility]

Student

You start the game as a factionless survivor. At the end of D1, you have to choose one person. You join that person's faction and become a backup version of their role, meaning you get their role when they die. If they die N1, you still get their role.

[callforjudgement]

Mafia Lyncher

Wins if the Mafia win

and

a specific player is lynched prior to that point. Loses and leaves the game if the player in question dies via some other mechanism.
The lynchee should be chosen randomly from among all players with self-protective abilities (like Bulletproof). If there are no such players, the lynchee is chosen at random from all players. (If the Lyncher ends up as their own Lynchee, rename the role to Mafia Jester.)

[Invisibility]

Insane Town Paranoid Recruiter

If someone targets you at night, they join the mafia. The player thinks that they are a regular paranoid town recruiter.

[Invisibility]

Town Paranoid Recruiter

If someone targets you, they join the town.

[Gamma Emerald]

Town Vandal

Investigates as Mafia to Cops, and Miller to Rolecops. Each night, this player must choose a player to change the color of the role+alignment part of the Role PM. They may select a color themselves, or allow it to be randomized between all roles present in the games’ colors. If no target is chosen, one is randomizes.

[Gamma Emerald]

Town Art Aficionado

May investigate a player to determine the color of their role each night.

[TemporalLich]

No Rolespam Townie

All roles that have been posted at least 4 times in a row (even with different alignments) are rerolled. This applies only to role cards within the block of 4 or more in a row.

[TemporalLich]

Mafia "As is" Setup

Roles that alter the setup en masse (e.g. conditionally rerolling roles as to "blacklist" them (e.g. No Rolespam), or altering setup alignments (e.g. Guaranteed 7-2)) don't take effect and must be rerolled.

If there are multiple "As is" Setups in play, they don't affect each other.

[callforjudgement]

Shiny Clause

Find a role that only exists in the Grand Idea Thread, selected either by choice or RNG. That role is given to the player who rolls this.
Since you bring up Dupes Clause...

Sleep Clause

(to determine alignment, reroll; you have the same alignment as the reroll, but no other aspects of it)

For as long as you are alive, the following rules are (secretly) in effect:
- Whenever a player becomes roleblocked, all other members of their faction become immune to roleblocking and vanillaisation for the rest of the night.
- Whenever a player becomes vanillaised, all other members of their faction become immune to roleblocking and vanillaisation for the rest of the game.

Apart from that, you're just a normal member of your faction.

[callforjudgement]

Evasion Clause

(to determine alignment, reroll; you have the same alignment as the reroll, but no other aspects of it)

For as long as you are alive, the following rule is (secretly) in effect:
- If a player's role has any random aspects to it, any actions targeting that player cannot be blocked, redirected, or otherwise prevented (as if the action was Strong-willed).

Apart from that, you're just a normal member of your faction.