Big Four Mafia! Game Over!

Titus · Post Post #3425 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:10 am

In post 3423, jjh927 wrote:Can you talk me through it

Sure. One second. I'll recuse Alch.

gobbledygook · Post Post #3426 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:10 am

I am concerned that Drew does not seem to really care that from his perspective if he was town, he would have a caught mafia 100%. That would invigorate me to find their buddies. He does not seem to be doing that.

jjh927 · Post Post #3427 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:11 am

No I mean why are you so confident in Alch over Drew

jjh927 · Post Post #3428 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:12 am

Oh that wasn't the response carry on

chennisden · Post Post #3429 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:12 am

In post 3426, gobbledygook wrote:I am concerned that Drew does not seem to really care that from his perspective if he was town, he would have a caught mafia 100%. That would invigorate me to find their buddies. He does not seem to be doing that.

^^^

chennisden · Post Post #3430 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:13 am

I also don't think it's unlikely that scum has failed quickhammering at least once

chennisden · Post Post #3431 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:14 am

So the "yurkin quickhammer" idea is possible

Titus · Post Post #3432 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:14 am

Today, the PT cop allegedly was not vanillaized or killed. That could create more conftown. Drew was vanillaized instead.

I was killed over Egix, despite largely having the same reads.

Both Alch and Creature predicted me living over Egix.

Alch opens the day claiming a guilty on Drew in our PT..

I said Drew was hooded before.

Alch asks mod questions in our PT.

He changes his claim to a Traffic Analyst after the mod answers the questions.

I sit on the guilty to get the landscape for later days.

gobbledygook · Post Post #3433 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:14 am

If both Alch and Drew are scum, that is one hell of a play. But if not, one is misplaying the situation as town.

Titus · Post Post #3434 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:15 am

In post 3430, chennisden wrote:I also don't think it's unlikely that scum has failed quickhammering at least once

In post 3431, chennisden wrote:So the "yurkin quickhammer" idea is possible

Alch has never been closer than L minus 2.

Titus · Post Post #3435 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:16 am

I am pretty sure I was left alive to be the dumb town.

jjh927 · Post Post #3436 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:16 am

In post 3426, gobbledygook wrote:I am concerned that Drew does not seem to really care that from his perspective if he was town, he would have a caught mafia 100%. That would invigorate me to find their buddies. He does not seem to be doing that.

One of my concerns is the creature vote he 'forgot' about
Not sure of much of the context but that looks like a side-play

But then Alch updating his claim is weird too

chennisden · Post Post #3437 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:16 am

Ok, but it's mylo, all it takes is two town voting, so

gobbledygook · Post Post #3438 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:17 am

The fact that the guilty hasn’t been discussed more is also interesting..

Titus · Post Post #3439 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:18 am

In post 3436, jjh927 wrote:
In post 3426, gobbledygook wrote:I am concerned that Drew does not seem to really care that from his perspective if he was town, he would have a caught mafia 100%. That would invigorate me to find their buddies. He does not seem to be doing that.
One of my concerns is the creature vote he 'forgot' about
Not sure of much of the context but that looks like a side-play

But then Alch updating his claim is weird too

I don't feel Gobble is genuine here. I've worked with Drew most of the day.

Titus · Post Post #3440 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:18 am

In post 3438, gobbledygook wrote:The fact that the guilty hasn’t been discussed more is also interesting..

We've been discussing it for like 20 pages

jjh927 · Post Post #3441 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:19 am

This might be a bit tinfoil, but the vanillaiser might have a limitation of some sort. Natural thing to do if it failed would be to have scum claim vanillaised.

Further tinfoil says it's flavour related

Titus · Post Post #3442 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:19 am

In post 3437, chennisden wrote:Ok, but it's mylo, all it takes is two town voting, so

That's why Alch scum leaves me alive

chennisden · Post Post #3443 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:19 am

In post 3440, Titus wrote:
In post 3438, gobbledygook wrote:The fact that the guilty hasn’t been discussed more is also interesting..
We've been discussing it for like 20 pages

^^^

gobbledygook · Post Post #3444 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:20 am

In post 3439, Titus wrote:
In post 3436, jjh927 wrote:
In post 3426, gobbledygook wrote:I am concerned that Drew does not seem to really care that from his perspective if he was town, he would have a caught mafia 100%. That would invigorate me to find their buddies. He does not seem to be doing that.
One of my concerns is the creature vote he 'forgot' about
Not sure of much of the context but that looks like a side-play

But then Alch updating his claim is weird too
I don't feel Gobble is genuine here. I've worked with Drew most of the day.

My game with Drew where I townread him correctly he was way more active about trying to get his top scumread killed. Here he would KNOW Alchemist is scum and he’s not really trying that hard in my opinion. Even forgetting that he was not voting him.

chennisden · Post Post #3445 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:20 am

In post 3442, Titus wrote:
In post 3437, chennisden wrote:Ok, but it's mylo, all it takes is two town voting, so
That's why Alch scum leaves me alive

Why do you believe Egix would not have voted Drew as well, considering his last post is literally "we should kill Drew tmrw"

Titus · Post Post #3446 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:20 am

In post 3441, jjh927 wrote:This might be a bit tinfoil, but the vanillaiser might have a limitation of some sort. Natural thing to do if it failed would be to have scum claim vanillaised.

Further tinfoil says it's flavour related

Why would the vanillaizer be limited with this much power?

The closest tinfoil is Drew faked the vanillaizer on himself to get the last mislynch...but he couldn't predict the 1 v 1 then because Alch would be town then

gobbledygook · Post Post #3447 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:22 am

In post 3440, Titus wrote:
In post 3438, gobbledygook wrote:The fact that the guilty hasn’t been discussed more is also interesting..
We've been discussing it for like 20 pages

I dunno. It might be because I’m a emotional player, but I would be spouting Drew is scum/Alch is scum every second I could if I was in their position. I am beginning to think it was a bungled gambit between the both of them. But I mainly am getting hung up on pride and not wanting to be wrong about this today.

jjh927 · Post Post #3448 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:22 am

In post 3432, Titus wrote:Today, the PT cop allegedly was not vanillaized or killed. That could create more conftown. Drew was vanillaized instead.

I was killed over Egix, despite largely having the same reads.

Both Alch and Creature predicted me living over Egix.

Alch opens the day claiming a guilty on Drew in our PT..

I said Drew was hooded before.

Alch asks mod questions in our PT.

He changes his claim to a Traffic Analyst after the mod answers the questions.

I sit on the guilty to get the landscape for later days.

Where did Alch predict you living over Egix?

I think this ultimately comes down to the guilty being really dodgy, which I think it is but I can only know the scale of it second hand

Titus · Post Post #3449 (ISO) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:22 am

In post 3445, chennisden wrote:
In post 3442, Titus wrote:
In post 3437, chennisden wrote:Ok, but it's mylo, all it takes is two town voting, so
That's why Alch scum leaves me alive
Why do you believe Egix would not have voted Drew as well, considering his last post is literally "we should kill Drew tmrw"

Yeah it was. But Egix is slower to post, less emotional and Alch has less game experience with Egix.

I don't believe town Alch checks Pisskop n2 and botches his guilty claim like this in mylo.