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Post Post #600 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:17 pm

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The Competitor
- Part 2/2


The third day started. There started the initial ceremony and the "we filtered out most losers" and yadda yadda. Today I would have to know what that competitor is on.

In the first stage we were each put in groups of 9 and to my horror that same competitor was there.

"From now on you're all a team. The next challenge you will play against other teams and a few teams will remain", said the voice.

Something was clearly wrong with this. We weren't meant to work together. We were all competitors. The best ones could easily get screwed if they take a bad team.

"The catch is: first you will have to vote one of your members to be eliminated. You have 5 minutes to discuss among yourselves", continued the voice before going silent.

It started shyly, but soon began a heated fight between choosing who's the weakest. I could hear my name being pointed multiple times enough to frighten me. We were mostly the same level, but I was the only one who got somebody's help, I was the one stepping down. Maybe this is what that competitor reserved me?

"I have a solution", stepped up a considerably taller competitor, with a smurk on his face, "we should probably all do fine and it won't really matter who is out. Instead we should consider voting out someone who is threatening".

"Or better", a girl stepped up, "we vote out someone who is in an alliance".

I moved away slightly from the group. Multiple thoughts began to cross my mind. It was obvious she was referring to me and the other competitor, who else would her?

Before there was a proper discussion, the voice returned to say the time was up. We each were given a monitor with the picture of each member to vote. After it was done, a bigger monitor showed all our pictures and started revealing our votes. I noticed mostly votes were aimed towards that same competitor and another guy.

I saw my picture and my vote revealing to be that same competitor. I saw him moving his eyes to match mine and he seemed just speechless. I had to do this, I knew what would be the implications of trusting an alliance.

The voting ended with the other guy getting voted instead. I saw him being escorted out of the room as he threw all kinds of insult to the rest of us. At least that explains why he passed the spelling bee.

The team challenge consisted of multiple challenges where each member of the group was given a task. There was some kind of a course and we could only start a task once someone finished theirs. When I finished my task, I stared my 'ally's eyes and just told him:

"We're not allies at all".

He shrugged and rushed to do his task. Fortunately we were able to score among the 40% top scoring teams. The next test, as opposed to the team challenged, paired each of us against each other. I stared wide-eyed when my opponent showed up: it was my ex-ally.

We were each put in a five feet tall platform and given a wooden thin sword. We were each meant to topple the other off the platform.

"Good luck", I heard my competitor say.

We fought each other, our bodies dancing to the rhythm of the clashes.

"Why?", I asked in the moment we trimmed each other, "why did you help me? Weren't you taught that we're all rivals? To not trust anyone?".

"That we're the winners? They're the losers?", continued my adversary.

"That I gotta win the test? That means my future?", I finished.

"And so does it means my future?", added my rival, "don't you realize it? How can you possibly live solely on reputation? On fame? On material goods? How can you possibly live when your interaction with the others is just predatory competition? Who will be your friends? Who will be there to help you when you need it?"

"I can live my own social life if I pass this test", I responded, "there's no thing as friendship if I don't pass this test".

"And you don't realize we're better together?", asked my adversary.

I clashed my sword against his right above his head as he approached the edge. It should have become obvious his last speech didn't make sense.

"Ironic", said I.

"Yeah...Ironic", said the competitor.

He swung his body to the side and with his sword hit the back of my head enough to unbalance me off the platform.

As I fell on the mattress beneath, I felt an immense anger as I realized why he helped me all the time. At the end it was all a ploy for me to be an extra stair step for his own success. I wanted to have friends in the upper world, but now I have nothing. I'd rather just lay in the mattress and never open my eyes again to this cruel predatory world.


(This story was inspired by the brazilian Netflix series 3% I'd somewhat recommend. Has some interesting parts at least)


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Post Post #601 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:21 pm

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In post 599, MariaR wrote:I don't think LUV and JV are both scum but 1 of them are. So carry on
I feel this.

I also kind of like LUV’s response.

I’m good to go JV.
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Post Post #602 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:22 pm

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Lets just continue on JV then
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Post Post #603 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:22 pm

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In post 593, Amrun wrote:
In post 575, Flavor Leaf wrote:Elsa is not scummy, they’re scum pushed.

I don’t think it’s Espresso either.

Or Frank.

Based entirely on this page, they give me town vibes here. I think their thought processes are rather fluid and genuine, and they’re really present.
If scum is pushing Elsa, do you think I’m scum? If so, why aren’t you voting me?

FTR, I’ve never played with Elsa so if you’re town I’d probably be more inclined to trust your read there. I haven’t decided yet on you though, because I dislike the LUV case.
You’re in the middle of the pack for the people pushing, i don’t scum read you necessarily.
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Post Post #604 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:24 pm

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Alternatively, if LUV is scum, Amawesome’s got a cute new association there
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Post Post #605 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2019 2:08 pm

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In post 587, Flavor Leaf wrote:I don’t think scumElsa gets pushed this early
this is not how town reads work.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #606 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2019 2:34 pm

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Its a very effective indicator though.
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Post Post #607 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2019 3:01 pm

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V/LA until 12/26. Merry Christmas all.
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Post Post #608 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2019 3:35 pm

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In post 605, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 587, Flavor Leaf wrote:I don’t think scumElsa gets pushed this early
this is not how town reads work.

I’m not looking for town reads, I’m looking for town.
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Post Post #609 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2019 4:45 pm

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that's a nice soundbite.

I just don't think that "X is being pushed thus they must be town" is a good way to read anyone.
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Post Post #610 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2019 5:03 pm

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Why? Gamestate dictactes and scum control the gamestate, and it’s up to town to see where and why it’s happening.
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Post Post #611 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2019 5:05 pm

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In post 604, Flavor Leaf wrote:Alternatively, if LUV is scum, Amawesome’s got a cute new association there
How much experience do you have with LUV, besides the mini we share? I correctly fought his mislynch there as well.

He’s a lurksack as either alignment from what I can tell. A couple of points here we seemed to be thinking the same thing so I’m inclined to call this town for now, though it’s not solid. Certainly not the best lynch of the day. I don’t see much substance to your case.

If we are going to kill a lurker, let’s kill mariaR.
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Post Post #612 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2019 5:11 pm

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I’ve been playing with LUV since they’ve been a newbie.
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Post Post #613 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2019 5:13 pm

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In post 612, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’ve been playing with LUV since they’ve been a newbie.
That’s good to know.

Mine is limited (obviously).

From what I gather LUV went from spammy to lurky in that timeframe, but I can’t swear by that.

I don’t care enough to fight LUV’s lynch here but I still don’t think it’s a great lynch.
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Post Post #614 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2019 5:14 pm

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But seriously though... I could lynch mariaR.
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Post Post #615 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2019 5:26 pm

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In post 610, Flavor Leaf wrote:Why? Gamestate dictactes and scum control the gamestate, and it’s up to town to see where and why it’s happening.
I don't really know what this is.

Elsa is getting pushed b/c he's saying dumb things and/or meta playing to his title. Both in this game and any game ppl that say dumb and suspicious things like he's doing is going to get push by both opportunist scum and town that thinks they are scum. Pushes are mainly null with the exception of some random push for no reason whatsoever.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #616 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2019 5:27 pm

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@Nero: you don’t think pushes with reasoning can be scummy?
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Post Post #617 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2019 5:28 pm

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In post 613, Amrun wrote:I don’t care enough to fight LUV’s lynch here but I still don’t think it’s a great lynch.
Let’s talk about this for a second then.

Why isn’t it a great day 1 lynch? The slot has 14 posts. There’s a good amount of associative ties towards it, regardless of which way the flip happens, and there is some scum equity in their posts.
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Post Post #618 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2019 5:29 pm

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I’m also not saying that the pushes on Elsa are bad, for what it’s worth, I just don’t think Elsa is scum, so I’m defending there.
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Post Post #619 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2019 5:32 pm

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In post 606, Elsa Jay wrote:Its a very effective indicator though.
like this is probably just a troll post but I'm still going to reply seriously to it.

A player that's getting pushed by scum
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somewhat likely to be town. I say somewhat b/c bussing/distancing has become so much more commonplace. The thing is that you haven't flipped yet and no scum has flipped yet.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #620 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2019 5:36 pm

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In post 616, Amrun wrote:@Nero: you don’t think pushes with reasoning can be scummy?
sure I guess. But both alignments will make pushed with decent/good reasoning and that's why I said they are null but that's more game theory than anything.
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Post Post #621 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2019 7:43 pm

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This is cool and all, but I still wanna lynch Elsa
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Post Post #622 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2019 8:08 pm

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Well I don't wanna be lynched, so we're even on that front.
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Post Post #623 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2019 8:12 pm

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If we're gonna lynch someone we need to have better reasoning shared behind it. If I ask you point-blank why we should lynch someone you should be able to tell me exactly why within 5 seconds, instead of giving me the classic—yet vague—"he's Scummy."

Espresso, why exactly do you want to lynch Elsa?
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Post Post #624 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2019 8:34 pm

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she's scummy
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but you can also read my ISO on why JV is still scum.
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edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit

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