Eh, I'd rather you just tell me so I don't have to guess.
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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Okay? I think I understand but not reallyIn post 592, Amrun wrote:Townlean. Not especially strong. I’m watching the slot but haven’t made any decisions there.
Independently, I town read you. But if Elsa Jay turns out to be scum, there’s really obvious scum motivation to protect you by creating this false idea that we are in danger of no lynch. She could do it as scum with you being town, but one of you flipping scum makes the other one more likely to do so (in my eyes). Of course if Elsa is town, it says nothing about your alignment.In post 574, JacksonVirgo wrote:
Do we seem aligned??? Or just you think we're an svs of sorts?In post 535, Amrun wrote:If Elsa Jay is scum, I would flip my stance on JV and lynch him to oblivion.-
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Espressojet Mafia Scum
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I think I've been pretty vocal, but I'm boredIn post 623, Wake1 wrote: Espresso, why exactly do you want to lynch Elsa?
I've been getting scummy gut feelings the whole game, though they've only grown over time compared to someone like Frank, who I was suspicious of at first, but now consider more town.
In post 382, Elsa Jay wrote:Hey Expresso put Jackson back at L-1 and see what happens.^Two examples of posts that never sat well with me
^Some wagon jumping that didn't feel very innocent to me
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Espressojet Mafia Scum
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Didn't mean to submit that, but okay
Here's the kicker:
Going through Elsa's ISO gives me the strong impression that Elsa is not actively looking for scum. To me this reads very scummy, but I just looked through an old Town game of his and I get the same kind of vibe...
I'm more willing to trust FlavorLeaf's analysis after reading that, and initially it put me off a bit
So now I'm less than 100% confident, but it's still the strongest read I've got-
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Flavor Leaf Survivor
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HoCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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Reasonings?In post 599, MariaR wrote:I don't think LUV and JV are both scum but 1 of them are. So carry on-
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Creature Solve This Game
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Creature Solve This Game
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Gamma Emerald AnySurvivorAny
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AgreedIn post 543, Amrun wrote:Pushing ennui as a gamestate is beneficial only to scum.<Embrace The Void>
“A flipped coin doesn't always land heads or tails. Sometimes it may never land at all...”-
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Figure something out.In post 557, Elsa Jay wrote:I dunno. That's why I'm waiting.<Embrace The Void>
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Buuulllll
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In post 617, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Let’s talk about this for a second then.In post 613, Amrun wrote:I don’t care enough to fight LUV’s lynch here but I still don’t think it’s a great lynch.
Why isn’t it a great day 1 lynch? The slot has 14 posts. There’s a good amount of associative ties towards it, regardless of which way the flip happens, and there is some scum equity in their posts.
From my point of view, this slot is less likely than random to flip scum. There are plenty of other slots more likely than random to flip scum.
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Elsa Jay He or She. Idc.Chaos and ConfusionHe or She. Idc.
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the fuck did you just call me?!?In post 631, Flavor Leaf wrote:HoOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Espressojet Mafia Scum
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Called you a dirty slut, that's what
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Flavor Leaf Survivor
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As scum, why wouldn’t Elsa just make up reads? It’s not like they’re bad scum, they’ve gotten nommed for goodfellas a couple times this year, I believe.
Elsa hard pocketed Mastina in Krazy U Pick.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
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Flavor Leaf Survivor
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I was feeling the exact same thing that Maria was when she did her last interjection.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Elsa Jay He or She. Idc.Chaos and ConfusionHe or She. Idc.
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New Elsa Images are bound, so now I gotta new face. Woopie!
Oh. And Happy Holidays and stuff.I made a GTKAS. Go shitpost in it if you want. It's very lonely.
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Same for me with LUV.In post 647, Flavor Leaf wrote:I was feeling the exact same thing that Maria was when she did her last interjection.
Also, fair points re: making up reads, but Elsa didn’t really express a lack of reads, just a lack of a will to do anything about it.
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