In post 1524, Garmr wrote:Just going to add Skellen shouldn't be forgotten. She did this last game as scum. She towned it up in a couple of posts and then came around from time to time to keep the impression up. So I'm a little wary of her at the moment.
Finally something from you into my direction.
Tbh I don't think I have been really townie this game, but it interests me what makes you wary about me. Anything particular or is that stance more based on my thread presence?
Also why are you on the Dunn wagon? If I go by #1536 you doesn't seem to be really convinced of scum!Dunn.
It kind of reads like a pissing contest who would be able to outguess the other. Tbh I don't think skitter has reacted in a scummy way. Considering we already have one dead town investigative (and additionally with scum knowledge about setup) I would actually assume that scum!skitter would be hard-boiled enough to give a clear answer here instead of refusing an answer, and refusing any answer makes sense from town!skitter's point of view.
Like Garmr is right that she basically gave the information away nonetheless with confirming she got no fruit after he admitted it was a gambit. However does that mistake rather come from town or scum? (who I would think is way more cautious in a possible guilty situation while you simply know as town it is bs)
I also think this gambit comes less likely from scum!Garmr, because if he would have been a scum Fruit Vendor (or even town) I think he would have softed it way sooner to make it more believable as people who received fruit usually claim/soft fruit immediately by what I can tell and both already had interacted at least twice before Garmr did his gambit. Thus I also have the impression Garmr made this gambit more spontaneously up on the point.
I don't see why he would do it as scum anyway, because as he said if skitter would have bitten with yes/no, dependent on what he would have faked, it could have been a 1v1 trade, he could have been caught lying later or he would have "inno'd" skitter for no real reason.
Looks to me like probably TvT. :shrug: There are other things that bother me about Garmr to a lesser extent, but not for the gambit.
In post 1524, Garmr wrote:Just going to add Skellen shouldn't be forgotten. She did this last game as scum. She towned it up in a couple of posts and then came around from time to time to keep the impression up. So I'm a little wary of her at the moment.
Finally something from you into my direction.
Tbh I don't think I have been really townie this game, but it interests me what makes you wary about me. Anything particular or is that stance more based on my thread presence?
Also why are you on the Dunn wagon? If I go by #1536 you doesn't seem to be really convinced of scum!Dunn.
I'm unsure whether they are or scum since they post no content, so better to get rid of the risk. I did find them scummy day 1 through. When skitter defend them then did a 180 I think there is something there. Just not sure it's skitter trying to look good in vca by voting a scum buddy or setting up the next mislynch on town. I'm going to say the former judging by today.
While being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx
unvoted so i could explain my reads without threat of hammer or whatever
was planning to explain those reads but christmas was a lot busier than i expected, will get to them in a tiny bit
i think i said that i didn’t like the thing looker about not seeing the hammer today - might have been just in my mind and forgot to put it here lol
will explain this when i go thru reads, been running on memory and not really rereading
the 3 in the middle i honestly haven’t put as much thought into yet but i will
also declaring probable intent to hammer dunn (is that a thing lol)
will reread but don’t particularly have and reason to turn this lynch unless i have a really good case on looker ig
UNVOTE: - just so no one lolhammers while I catch up.
Consider my vote still very much on Dunn.
If nothing juicy has come up, I'll probably just revote in the end.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed." -Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
In post 1492, Looker wrote:What do you mean by fences? Are you asserting potential scum pairs?
People often talk about scum-pairs.
I like to think of it as a "milder" stage of pairing. Individuals who seem to share an agenda/perspective.
Doesn't always mean they are town/scum together, but helps me understand some trajectories better.
Also makes it more clear to me when someone changes their stance drastically, so I like to write them up.
And who knows? Maybe some conversation could be stirred up every once in a while as well.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed." -Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
In post 1524, Garmr wrote:Just going to add Skellen shouldn't be forgotten. She did this last game as scum. She towned it up in a couple of posts and then came around from time to time to keep the impression up. So I'm a little wary of her at the moment.
Is this shade now then?
Because it sort of feels familiar..
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed." -Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
In post 1524, Garmr wrote:Just going to add Skellen shouldn't be forgotten. She did this last game as scum. She towned it up in a couple of posts and then came around from time to time to keep the impression up. So I'm a little wary of her at the moment.
Is this shade now then?
Because it sort of feels familiar..
It's caution skellen will tell you herself.
While being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)
In post 1492, Looker wrote:What do you mean by fences? Are you asserting potential scum pairs?
People often talk about scum-pairs.
I like to think of it as a "milder" stage of pairing. Individuals who seem to share an agenda/perspective.
Doesn't always mean they are town/scum together, but helps me understand some trajectories better.
Also makes it more clear to me when someone changes their stance drastically, so I like to write them up.
And who knows? Maybe some conversation could be stirred up every once in a while as well.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx
In post 1592, Looker wrote:I'd hope you'd have a case on me since you put me at the end of your townscum spectrum. I'm still awaiting your follow-up as well.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx
In post 1512, january wrote:
not sure how this comes off as being in the center
i townread FL and i didn't want him lynched
pretty sure every one of your quotes here except for the bottom one is me saying "FL wouldn't do this as scum" or "i think FL is town"
This is what I meant by waffling, though perhaps I described it incorrectly.
I was actually going to say i changed my mind on FL at around #1122
but i like his last few pages way too much
almost this
but i actually DO want to stop people from doing it
doubt this is totally true
but once again i don't think it's coming from scum
In post 1492, Looker wrote:What do you mean by fences? Are you asserting potential scum pairs?
People often talk about scum-pairs.
I like to think of it as a "milder" stage of pairing. Individuals who seem to share an agenda/perspective.
Doesn't always mean they are town/scum together, but helps me understand some trajectories better.
Also makes it more clear to me when someone changes their stance drastically, so I like to write them up.
And who knows? Maybe some conversation could be stirred up every once in a while as well.
I think you're scum. Discuss
Oh cool so una is town then. I found them hard to read but thanks for clarifying that.
While being 100% completely right. I'm just that good. -Garmr (Wasn't Right)
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx