Big Four Mafia! Game Over!

[chennisden]

That's the point

[chennisden]

Now uhh extrapolate to Yurkin

[Yodavader]

Like I said before, yurkin is clearly town because why would scum vanilla themselves on night 1. That's a pretty big gambit to pull especially since outside the vanillaizer, that would be a pretty powerful role for scum to have. The ability to quickhammer from 2 votes out is huge. I don't think they would have planned for us to believe that vanillas were autotown. That's a big risk to push from the start of the game. I could see them doing that N2 or something, once they saw how town reacted.

[Yodavader]

As much as I would like to believe that creature is scum, I am starting to turn my thoughts away from him being scum. Thinking more about forcing the massclaim, it's probably more town motivated than I originally wanted to believe. I think we still had the flavorcop (too lazy to actually dig into that timeframe) so they could have easily compared instruments of the claimed guitarists and see who was lying. Yeah, it was rough having the lynch all nonclaimers attitude but I could see scum trying to hide until they knew everyone else's claims to create a fakeclaim that would work.

[Yodavader]

I'm guessing that scum were given fakeclaims but if the fakeclaim didn't match their real roles, then they could have easily made up new fakeclaims to match what they needed.

[Yodavader]

I've already said my piece on Blatant, so I'm just going to leave that where it is.

[Yodavader]

So, everyone else is pretty town to me making BS my only real scum read. Again, I know that I am bad at reads but this is the only one that makes sense to me right now.

[chennisden]

Yoda

If you're town you're wrong on at least one of your Craeture Yurkin reads so

[chennisden]

BS is scum from your POV

You should be looking for other two scum

[Yodavader]

I'm pretty confident on my reads of creature and yurkin. It just doesn't make sense. <insert Chewbacca defense>

I'll try to find the other 2 scum.

[Yodavader]

So, looking at the current list of who is alive, my town to scum list is (no particular order, just in groups):

Town:
Gobble
yurkin
creature

Townlean:
Drew - Since Alch was pushing Drew and Alch flipped scum, you get +1

Null:
JJH - can't remember much from here but the refusal to claim gets a -1

Scumlean:
Chen - trying to push a creature lynch and it seems like you have blinders on when it comes to creature

scum:
BS - already stated

But again, I suck at reads

[Yodavader]

Of course, I would put myself in the town section, but people told me that putting myself in my list means nothing

[chennisden]

reeeeeallly

drew is below yurkin and creature

reaaaaallly

[chennisden]

Gobble and creature r voting you

So lol

[chennisden]

Calling both of them town is absolute lol

[Yodavader]

That's just the way I see it. I'm trying not to let other people swerve my pov

Also, I'm trying not to OMGUS

[chennisden]

no, dude, if they're both town you will be quickhammered

[Yodavader]

so, by your logic, at least one of them would have to be scum. Hmm...let me think about this

[Yodavader]

So, if I had to choose out of the 2 to be scum, I would say that it would be gobble. The way that the game has played out in my mind today, it seems like gobble was jumping around with votes hoping to see if something sticks. I also don't like that they are scum testing to end the game. There should be more thought into who to vote other than "Let's test this quickhammer and hope we aren't wrong"

[Yodavader]

So, then according to my own list, the scum team would be BS, chen, and gobble.

[gobbledygook]

Chen why did you switch to Yurkin over the others?

[Blatant Scum]

Let's make it easier for scum to hammer him.
VOTE: Yoda

[gobbledygook]

BS, can you do something funny like your signature?

[Blatant Scum]

UNVOTE:

[Blatant Scum]

VOTE: Yoda
Quickly my scumbuddies. Hammer now!