Mini 626 - Crew vs. Pigs - GAME OVER!!
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The Fonz Jack of All Trades
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I guess I can see that. Whatever though, I really WASN'T trying to direct the cop. I guess my comment could be interpreted as such, but you'll see later I retract that position and go to it'd be a waste of an investigation. If telling the cop NOT to view someone is directing too, then take a look at Matin and anyone else who has said they think an investigation is wasted on him."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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chenhsi wrote:Cubsfan4ever has posted once.
Ennui2778 has posted 3 times, all useless posts.
Are they lurking?Each will be prodded 72 hours after their last post and if posting frequency does not increase I will be seeking replacements as necessary (and, of course, as available, which is always a factor).-
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Then what were you trying to do? Your retraction of the stance is noted, however. That's why I didn't explain my initial vote.Forbiddanlight wrote:Whatever though, I really WASN'T trying to direct the cop. I guess my comment could be interpreted as such, but you'll see later I retract that position and go to it'd be a waste of an investigation.-
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Then what was I trying to do? Speak my thoughts on the situation. And alright, fine,un-FoS Kison. I understand you were giving me a chance. But still, we don't even KNOW if there is a cop, and really, the cop will do whatever they are going to do. What someone says shouldn't affect that."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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The Fonz Jack of All Trades
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Direct the cop, the scum can just kill the investigation target. Direct the doc, the scum can kill anyone else.raider8169 wrote:Welcome The Fonz
Why do those role not apply to the vig?
Direct the vig, the target dies anyway. Now, admittedly, you should only direct vigs to people who are too scummy for scum to want to kill, or who will, drum roll: ONLY DIE IF THEY ARE SCUM!-
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In this case that'd be ideal if he's telling the truth..The Fonz wrote:Direct the cop, the scum can just kill the investigation target.Direct the doc, the scum can kill anyone else.
Direct the vig, the target dies anyway. Now, admittedly, you should only direct vigs to people who are too scummy for scum to want to kill, or who will, drum roll: ONLY DIE IF THEY ARE SCUM!-
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ThanksThe Fonz wrote:
Direct the cop, the scum can just kill the investigation target. Direct the doc, the scum can kill anyone else.raider8169 wrote:Welcome The Fonz
Why do those role not apply to the vig?
Direct the vig, the target dies anyway. Now, admittedly, you should only direct vigs to people who are too scummy for scum to want to kill, or who will, drum roll: ONLY DIE IF THEY ARE SCUM!-
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ting =) Mafia Scum
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@raider.
We might have vigs. Or sks. He claimed nk-immunity, not investigation-immunity. I don't get why you're pushing for a darkdude-nk-immune-investigation-proof-scum possibility. That's an absurd absurd amount of power in one role.raider wrote:IF he is the godfather the nk immune would be because he wouldnt pick himself to nightkill.
You said you believed his claim, so - do you think he's nk-immune, or a godfather? or both?
What plan? Do what thing? All he did was claim.raider wrote:If darkdude's plan is to ever get going we would have to agree atleast for the time being not to lynch him so he can do this thing.
@ghyrt.
Bolded bits contradict. If it's a nulltell, it's 50/50. If it's 70/30 like you're saying, it's a town tell.I still agree that we should treat it as anull tellfor now; but I wanted to make it clear that rather seeing the claim in terms of 50/50,I think there's more like a 70-85% chance that darkdude is town.
@Matin.
See the raider bit above. We might have vigs or sk's. Raider extracting a godfather role from a claim of nk-immunity is a stretch. Godfathers aren't nk-immune. Which is why I asked if he thought darkdude had both.
@raider.
We move on by everyone postingI dont like the idea of saying he will or will not live to see lylo. I think it would be better to not lynch him atleast for today and let him run the show for who to lynch. Then atleast we can base his claim and the lynch together and get an idea. Of course this could be at the expense of the rest of the town. I am at a stuck on how to move on.unvote. vote:raider, FOS:darkdude.Then we see where things go.-
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I already gave the answer to this one but I will say it again.ting =) wrote:@raider.
We might have vigs. Or sks. He claimed nk-immunity, not investigation-immunity. I don't get why you're pushing for a darkdude-nk-immune-investigation-proof-scum possibility. That's an absurd absurd amount of power in one role.raider wrote:IF he is the godfather the nk immune would be because he wouldnt pick himself to nightkill.
You said you believed his claim, so - do you think he's nk-immune, or a godfather? or both?
IF he is scum for this to have any chance of working he would need to be the godfather, that in itself would make him non night killable. I did not take into consideration of a possible SK. Simple way to find out is if someone has a town night kill option use it on him. If he is scum and lying he will be dead otherwise he will stay alive. Unless of course the SK or whoever has a better target.
I was addressing both possibilities so everyone could make an informed choice. My choice is that I believe the claim.
This I need to use a quote forting =) wrote:
What plan? Do what thing? All he did was claim.raider wrote:If darkdude's plan is to ever get going we would have to agree atleast for the time being not to lynch him so he can do this thing.
darkdude wrote:Having a town with an open role that isn't afraid to speak against scum seems like a much better option. And personally, making elaborate plans isn't my forte, so I just like to make use of my blunt and to-the-point playstyle to scumhunt. By claiming now I have a easier time to go around scumhunting since my intentions are open for all to see.
I think that is just plan a bad idea. If we are to find out one way or the other we have to decide that as a group now. Either give him what he is asking for (some leeway to pick out scum and back him up when its needed) or we should lynch him now and be done with it. I say lets give him some room to work with, you dont agree I am taking it.[/quote]ting =) wrote:@raider.
We move on by everyone postingI dont like the idea of saying he will or will not live to see lylo. I think it would be better to not lynch him atleast for today and let him run the show for who to lynch. Then atleast we can base his claim and the lynch together and get an idea. Of course this could be at the expense of the rest of the town. I am at a stuck on how to move on.unvote. vote:raider, FOS:darkdude.Then we see where things go.-
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darkdude Mafia Scum
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Okay, from the top...
You agree that discussions and reactions are good, but you think that the discussion spawned by my claim is bad? Would you rather have us debate on trivial things just like how most games start when people get stuck on random voting for 10 pages on Day 1? I don't understand you point yet.ting wrote:It is harmful. If people decide to follow through with their thoughts on your claim, we'll end up with a long discussion that doesn't help us any.
Uh...I don't understand where you get this from. Raider never said "he claim NK immune... = he is investigation immune". I think it's pretty valid to suspect me to be a godfather if I am scum. It ISN'T based on my claim of NK immunity, rather the effect that my claim had on me, which was to put me into the spotlight.ting wrote:is a big jump from nk immune. It's a completely different power entirely. Do you think it's plausible that he's both a godfather and bulletproof? An nk-immune-investigation-proof scum?
Regarding discussion on lynching/keeping me alive:
Obviously I claimed because I want to avoid being lynched. But it is also clear that since no one knows my role it is valid to keep a close eye on me. I don't even know why there's discussion about whether I should be automatically freed from lynches. Obviously things change due to circumstances. Seems odd to me when an idea is suggested to be carved in stone.
We want to know your perspective. So far you have only said:chenhhhasdfasdfsi wrote:Yeah, I wanted to know what the Ghyrt meant when he said "this just leaves Chenhsi". (Stop spelling my name wrong!)
I have no idea why I used the word 'guess'.
I think darkdude is probably telling the truth, but I am still suspicous of him.
I think it is interestign to note that you're not really putting a lot of content into your own posts and being reminded for that while you accuse others of lurking. Are you saying that compared to those you mentioned, your activity is enough?Cubsfan4ever has posted once.
Ennui2778 has posted 3 times, all useless posts.
Are they lurking?
Regarding Raider's suggestion of "my plan":
No, I do not have a secret plan. I claimed so I could play normally. Aside from planningthat, I have no other plan. I said it would give me an easier time to scumhunt, not that everyone should consider letting me make choices for town. If you read carefully I even said that I'm not good at making plans .-
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+1darkdude wrote:
We want to know your perspective. So far you have only said:chenhhhasdfasdfsi wrote:Yeah, I wanted to know what the Ghyrt meant when he said "this just leaves Chenhsi". (Stop spelling my name wrong!)
I have no idea why I used the word 'guess'.
I think darkdude is probably telling the truth, but I am still suspicous of him.
I think it is interestign to note that you're not really putting a lot of content into your own posts and being reminded for that while you accuse others of lurking. Are you saying that compared to those you mentioned, your activity is enough?Cubsfan4ever has posted once.
Ennui2778 has posted 3 times, all useless posts.
Are they lurking?
I noticed that as well, but was waiting to see if he was going to up his content level on his own before prodding him to do so..-
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The counter balance is possible, if anything it would be the opposite that he is IE he darkdude is town the counter balance would be scum.Ennui2778 wrote:Perhaps darkdude was claiming to get others to claim as well, I don't believe this has been suggested, but while Darkdude clearly has a very powerful role, there could be a counterbalance to his power.-
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I think this warrants adarkdude wrote:
We want to know your perspective. So far you have only said:chenhhhasdfasdfsi wrote:Yeah, I wanted to know what the Ghyrt meant when he said "this just leaves Chenhsi". (Stop spelling my name wrong!)
I have no idea why I used the word 'guess'.
I think darkdude is probably telling the truth, but I am still suspicous of him.
I think it is interestign to note that you're not really putting a lot of content into your own posts and being reminded for that while you accuse others of lurking. Are you saying that compared to those you mentioned, your activity is enough?Cubsfan4ever has posted once.
Ennui2778 has posted 3 times, all useless posts.
Are they lurking?Vote: Chenhsi. Multiple things point to lurking/not-paying-attention.[i]"Rolling in the muck is not the best way of getting clean."
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darkdude Mafia Scum
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Uh...I mean what I say, and say what I mean. I didn't want a mass claim. I have no idea where you're pulling that from.Perhaps darkdude was claiming to get others to claim as well, I don't believe this has been suggested, but while Darkdude clearly has a very powerful role, there could be a counterbalance to his power.
As raider said, it would be nice for the scum roles to claim. We can still hope.-
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Hm...I just did a quick meta search for chenhsi's games
Seems like just tagging along is his play style. I haven't see any posts with a complete paragraph yet in the quick search of his other games.
I'm not sure which course of action would be best. He's very hard to read because of the lack of content in his posts, but I doubt there's anything we can do about this. For now maybe looking at the bigger picture will help more than questioning him.
Kison's vote and Forbidden light's reaction to it seems like a point of interest. I'm not sure what to make of it just yet. I'll look over it more carefully when I get the time.-
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I think I shall join those who will treat DD's claim as a null-tell. Just let him scumhunt with the rest of the town for now.
There's one thing Darkdude said that disturbed me. A possible contradiction:
But in his claim-post he said:Darkdude wrote:It says that I can't be eliminated by night kills without specifying a type,
And that doesn't seem to be the same thing to me. This could just be distracting flavor, or it could be a slip-up.Darkdude wrote:I cannot be arrested by the rats
That flavor text certainly sounds to me like a vig or sk would NK him just fine (I assume they don't 'arrest').Can't bake an omelette without killing a few people.-
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(don't speculate on that, though)
Are you saying that you think as scum he was hoping another BPV would counterclaim? That would be suicide with very little payoff if that were the case. If that's not what you're saying, then I'm not reading you clearly.Ennui2778 wrote:Perhaps darkdude was claiming to get others to claim as well, I don't believe this has been suggested, but while Darkdude clearly has a very powerful role, there could be a counterbalance to his power.
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