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Post Post #150 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:44 pm

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idk krazy there is a lot to get your hands dirty with and you are actively not doing that
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Post Post #151 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:45 pm

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Some people just like having clean hands, Oka. Don't be rude.
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Post Post #152 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:51 pm

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In post 139, Micc wrote:
Amrun has replaced Mathdino on You Over A Disproportionately Small Gap.
Nuu :(

But at least we got an Amrun out of it.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #153 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:53 pm

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In post 30, Pine wrote:
In post 24, OkaPoka wrote:But like titus explain to me the value of outting all the neighborhoods
She’s saying that the Doc is more valuable as an Innocent Child than as a Doctor. I’m not sure I agree, but there’s merit in the suggestion
You're really bending your branches to get to any merit in this. A secret doctor has both "Lynchproof in LyLo minus X" and the ability to protect people each night, an outed doc has "Lynchproof in LyLo minus X" and "1- shot lightning rod".
In post 103, OkaPoka wrote:have you ever played with scum me ?
I have and I'm kind of vibing with 102. I'm not as much of an expert on Titus though, I've blacked out the memory of our only scumteam due to emotional scarring.
In post 106, Elsa Jay wrote:The earth is Square.
That's geometry this is on purpose isn't it????
In post 127, Pine wrote:I'm going to tackle this in the morning. I have a deep gut feeling that there's either a setup break or at least a mandatory-once-we-see-it strategy in the setup.
There definitely is: Name Townies should claim before L-1 in open setups, because it confirms them town.
Same as every setup in the history of ever.
There's fancy bells and whistles but nothing ontop of that core strategy.
Phone operator+doc+2 neighbor partners of scum (after that scum has died) is a pretty high number of Named Townies for a setup which is "different" but there's nothing else "different". You can try to use the neighbor PT to improve your scumhunting... in the one game a year where we have special 4p hydras for that.... even though empirically that results in more scum pockets than improved read accuracy.
In post 133, Elsa Jay wrote:
In post 131, popsofctown wrote:
In post 33, Elsa Jay wrote:Okay, let's look at it a different way I suppose.

12 of us have neighborhoods, so 6 in total. 3 scum, 1 in each neighborhood. 3/6.
I've been informed math is scummy VOTE: Elsa Jay
I said YOUR math was scummy. I am a faultess perfect character who can contradict themselves perfectly fine.
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In post 128, OkaPoka wrote:after some talking with teammates

setup isn't actually breakable unless we hit both scum very early with doc saves
There are three things that confuse me in this post, can you find them all?
In the world where this is a scumslip, it has to be the subset of worlds where oka poka still feels the nightkills are mysterious and inscrutable, and is allowing his teammates to yolo the nightkills
I've only played with scum Oka in nightless but I suspect this venn diagram is simply an oval.
But more seriously I feel like Oka is the greenest tonal slot in the game so far and isn't where I'd go to nitpick wordings. I think you're teasing here though
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
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Post Post #154 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:54 pm

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I think Titus is probably town, Math otoh, the jury’s still out on. :P
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Post Post #155 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:55 pm

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Krazy too.
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Post Post #156 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:55 pm

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Isn't "both" more a fakey attempted townslip than a scumslip tho? Why is oka townie off tone?
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Post Post #157 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:56 pm

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I just like neighborhoods for gambiting and reaction testing ngl. Having a place where you can document what you're really thinking while you say something else is very useful.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #158 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:57 pm

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Nancy what's your new avi from?
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Post Post #159 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:57 pm

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the reason why i asked about pine playin is because literally i have no recollection of playing with anyone on his team or him so idk if its just a generic throwaway comment
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Post Post #160 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:58 pm

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wrt both

uh

i mean two
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Post Post #161 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:58 pm

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In post 157, Something_Smart wrote:I just like neighborhoods for gambiting and reaction testing ngl. Having a place where you can document what you're really thinking while you say something else is very useful.
But have you tried just saying what you're really thinking in the main thread? :P
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Post Post #162 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:00 pm

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I find I tend to get ignored when I do that.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #163 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:02 pm

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In post 158, Krazy wrote:Nancy what's your new avi from?
Chloe from the show, the B in Apt. 23.
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Post Post #164 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:03 pm

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As opposed to when only one person can see what you write? :P

I know what you mean but if your hoodie is scum then there's literally no reliable record of your thoughts when you die. Which is maybe even worse than being ignored because then scum can decide what you said?
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Post Post #165 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:06 pm

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With a Future dead Elsa it'll go like this.

"Yeah Elsa died, she left me pictures of herself and of the animaniacs for some reason. Oh, and she said XXX was scum."
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Post Post #166 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:07 pm

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In post 157, Something_Smart wrote:I just like neighborhoods for gambiting and reaction testing ngl. Having a place where you can document what you're really thinking while you say something else is very useful.
If you actually do anything remotely approaching this for other teammates in other contexts you owe me some rerolls
It's a potential use but you seem the last person I'd expect to suggest it
In Crown I asked my neighbor to pretend she was scumreading so I could get my scumkill equity lower
I figured out she was scum and that ruined my fun :(
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #167 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:09 pm

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In post 161, Krazy wrote:
In post 157, Something_Smart wrote:I just like neighborhoods for gambiting and reaction testing ngl. Having a place where you can document what you're really thinking while you say something else is very useful.
But have you tried just saying what you're really thinking in the main thread? :P
S_S is actually one of the more transparent players as town. People just aren't willing to accept that his townplay is so different.
liberally putting [v[ tags around his thoughts, though, well..
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
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Post Post #168 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:11 pm

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I very much doubt that anyone could misrepresent me and get away with it :P

Besides, that's not really what I meant-- it's generally on a smaller scale. As in, I would predict that someone would react such-and-such a way as town or scum, note that prediction in the hood, and then if I later come out and say as much I can back up the veracity of it if need be. Plus my neighbor can weigh in on whether they agree or disagree, and I can read them off of that as well.
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Post Post #169 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:13 pm

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In post 167, popsofctown wrote:S_S is actually one of the more transparent players as town.
I generally try to be, yes.

But when I have a chance to be intentionally cryptic I'll usually take it :P
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #170 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:14 pm

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Can we please stop outing hoods, even that you’re in one? If everyone but the doc outs they’re in a hood, scum will figure out who the doc is.
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Post Post #171 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:14 pm

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I haven't claimed to have or not have a neighbor. That post was purely hypothetical.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #172 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:15 pm

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In post 171, Something_Smart wrote:I haven't claimed to have or not have a neighbor. That post was purely hypothetical.
Alright then.
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Post Post #173 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:16 pm

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Oka tone
In post 22, OkaPoka wrote:Just claim when your neighbor dies

Only one death a phase
This haikuish post kind of reflected frustration with Titus' lolclaim alongside the correct theory solve
In post 37, OkaPoka wrote:Odds are you will be pocketed in your pt lol
If he's a scum this thought is a cackle
cackles have to be kept in the scum pt because sometimes they get the witch screetchy to them
rolling red with him I feel like Oka gets that
he had to feel confident to post this, it didn't come off cackly though
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
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Post Post #174 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:18 pm

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I mean it's more a burn and I'm pretty sure burns can come from either alignment
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