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Post Post #800 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:02 am

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Ankamius - cancel food

Dr Easy Bake - The Maurauders
Flavor Leaf - Wild Cards

davesaz - Busboy Revolution

chennisden - Quick Attack

Vex Vience - Doomsday
Volxen - Derp Wolves
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GuyInFreezer - Bird That Carries You Over a Disproportionately Small Gap

Elements - Team "Team" Team
Volpe14 - Tea Gathering Club

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Almost50 - You Over a Disproportionately Small Gap
Farkran - DFKN

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Post Post #801 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:02 am

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the shading isn't showing up so it looks a lot dumber than it should

oh well I'll deal with it later
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Post Post #802 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:06 am

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In post 799, Volpe14 wrote:I'm either hard pocketed by Fark/GiF by this moment or I've just found some mason partners for this game.

We're all in synch too which is nice.

It's a cool pocket if it's one, I'm sliding deep on it.
...i'm feeling the same way, but i'm more confident on it given that i absolutely don't read any of you as the pocketing type. And, well, you read at least one of my games, i don't even need to explain myself
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Post Post #803 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:06 am

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In post 798, Farkran wrote:Post 596 and following. I don't believe that is a pure reconsideration without turning to someone else. I read Flavor Leaf as someone who takes hard stances and does not back off a stance without assuming a different one - voting nom, or me, would have been consistent with his progression thus far but he didn't. He just backed off and turned to AtE. I'm waiting for him to come up with more content when he has slept on it or something, but atm i think he's my highest scumread.
unless he's specifically pocketing me, I don't think scum!FL ever does that
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Post Post #804 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:08 am

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Maybe I could give dave a town lean too...his flavor questioning post really would be weird coming from scum that would probably not try to fearmonge in flavor antics?

I don't know, not really that strong of a read so for town...

[Volpe/Fark/GiF/Espresso/Elems/Dave/Vex]

I think it's a good block especially because we're somewhat roughly in synch/with a similar mindset.

Dave/Espresso/Elems, where you stand at Nom/FL/Ank take we have going?
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Post Post #805 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:08 am

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In post 800, Ankamius wrote:
Ankamius - cancel food

Dr Easy Bake - The Maurauders
Flavor Leaf - Wild Cards

davesaz - Busboy Revolution

chennisden - Quick Attack

Vex Vience - Doomsday
Volxen - Derp Wolves
MariaR - Ripple's Krazy Mistress Dunn

Gammagooey - Old Hat
DeasVail - The Lit Torches
kuribo - The Four Horsement
GuyInFreezer - Bird That Carries You Over a Disproportionately Small Gap

Elements - Team "Team" Team
Volpe14 - Tea Gathering Club

EspressoPatronum - Newb Kids on the Block

Almost50 - You Over a Disproportionately Small Gap
Farkran - DFKN

nomnomnom - SubOptimal Math
Eh, aside from your bright green, every other green looks the same.

I take it that espresso is your highest (and only) scumread right now? And is maria green just because of that, or is there anything else?
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Post Post #806 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:08 am

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technically I'm making an assumption by calling it town considering he tends to get into tunnel wars as town too, but I know offhand of one huge TvT fight he had last year so it's believable that he's recognizing the possibility and trying to dismantle it ahead of time

I feel like it's just more likely he's town since it's easier to ride the chaos that swept in at the same time to completely dismantle the wagon rather than just say "OK I'M NOT GOING TO FIGHT, PLEASE WAGON ME"

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Post Post #807 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:09 am

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In post 803, Ankamius wrote:
In post 798, Farkran wrote:Post 596 and following. I don't believe that is a pure reconsideration without turning to someone else. I read Flavor Leaf as someone who takes hard stances and does not back off a stance without assuming a different one - voting nom, or me, would have been consistent with his progression thus far but he didn't. He just backed off and turned to AtE. I'm waiting for him to come up with more content when he has slept on it or something, but atm i think he's my highest scumread.
unless he's specifically pocketing me, I don't think scum!FL ever does that
What does scum!FL do, in your opinon?
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Post Post #808 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:09 am

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mariar feels like she did in starry night, basically

it's a very weak reason so it was meant to be slightly green
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Post Post #809 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:11 am

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In post 806, Ankamius wrote:I feel like it's just more likely he's town since it's easier to ride the chaos that swept in at the same time to completely dismantle the wagon rather than just say "OK I'M NOT GOING TO FIGHT, PLEASE WAGON ME"
Actually FL was like "We're going to kill you, you know?" when I first started to wagon him and only later he started to back down on it so I'm not sure this match reality as nicely as it sounds.
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Post Post #810 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:12 am

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In post 809, Volpe14 wrote:
In post 806, Ankamius wrote:I feel like it's just more likely he's town since it's easier to ride the chaos that swept in at the same time to completely dismantle the wagon rather than just say "OK I'M NOT GOING TO FIGHT, PLEASE WAGON ME"
Actually FL was like "We're going to kill you, you know?" when I first started to wagon him and only later he started to back down on it so I'm not sure this match reality as nicely as it sounds.
I've seen him do that as town and I find it hard to believe he'd switch like that out of nowhere without a good reason as scum
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Post Post #811 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:10 am

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There is something that worries me a lot concerning this entire thread, honestly. I feel something should have happened yet it didn't?
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Post Post #812 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:12 am

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Although to be fair, if nobody did what I thought would happen, then maybe it's not important to anyone but it's still something that worries me.
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Post Post #813 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:18 am

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Why, is it the playerlist that gave you the conclusion that something would happen?
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Post Post #814 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:34 am

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I'm not sure what I was seeing on chennis to link up with others but I'm not really seeing it that much anymore

not townreading the slot but I'm kind of like, nullish on it.
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Post Post #815 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:39 am

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In post 813, Ankamius wrote:Why, is it the playerlist that gave you the conclusion that something would happen?
well to be honest I expected someone at some point to comment on the whole hood fiasco and nobody did. In my mind I assumed that scums would gladly avoid the whole discussion unless if they could use that as a sort of accusation point but that didn't happen either. Maybe I was just mistaken about how town would approach this whole thing but the fact nobody gave an analysis on it is quite perplexing to me.
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Post Post #816 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:53 am

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It got buried in the volpe fl shit and I'm ngl, it looks impossible to get anything concrete out of it without seeing the pt directly
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Post Post #817 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:56 am

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I guess so.
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Post Post #818 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:44 am

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In post 710, Volpe14 wrote:Do I need to highlight that Ank popped in defended FL/Nomnom and vanished?
The fact that this is how you're playing means I feel very comfortable giving your reads no credence in this game.
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Post Post #819 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:47 am

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In post 783, Farkran wrote:
In post 531, chennisden wrote:Btw I think Gammagooey is a pretty towny slot
"guy agrees with me"

"i townread guy"

Yeah. Chennis is town, confident in that. I suggest to be less superficial and emotional about your reads, though.

Before you call me out for posting superficial readlists as well, you should notice the difference in pushing hard reads (what you have been doing) as opposed to taking notes and outing my thoughts in the thread (what i have been doing in my lists). It's a significant playstyle difference, obviously i think my way is better and probably you think yours is, but if we are to meet eye to eye we gotta understand how our minds work.
That's actually not it at all, it's largely a toneread
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Post Post #820 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:54 am

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You can't operate solely on logic in what is bound to be a game around emotions
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Post Post #821 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:55 am

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By the way I don't scumread you anymore Farkran
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Post Post #822 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:59 am

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I'd love to read one of your games, Farkran, but to be frank, I don't have the time nor are you a high priority sort as of right now.
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Post Post #823 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:04 am

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Finally before I go I believe Dave has some scum equity here
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Post Post #824 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:10 am

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In post 790, Farkran wrote:I'm fully caught up.

So here's where i am at:

- I townread
davesaz
for trying to sort FL vs volpe in an obvtown fashion
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- I am slightly concerned about
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for disappearing after that espresso read. Need more content from there, it looks like a veteran slot, reminds me of Micc. Internal consistency and good logic are more NAI here than elsewhere. Inclined to townlean her though.
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- Scumleaning
Gammagooey
for his readlist and timing. Need more content though.
Hey Fark, can you try to describe what about dave's posts on volpe & FL are obvtown to you? I agree that volpe's read on Elements was a generally good thing for dave to look into, but the tone of dave's posts around there feels more commentaryish to me than investigative to me personally, and I think that type of content can pretty easily come from scum as well.

I also think I get where you could be coming from in regards to Maria and I not being around at particular points in the game, but I want you to think about that for a second for me. Do you think it's particularly likely that either of us are limiting our posting specifically in a way that scum are likely to do this early?

For myself I can promise you that I wouldn't want to deal with the volpe/FL clusterfuck before bed (and in fact still would prefer not to deal with it because I think a lot of FL's posts are likely posting for the sake of his own amusement/ego in that big ol' section and I doubt I'll be able to interpret anything useful out of his posts there) as either alignment, and people 'disappearing' (which I'm taking to mean posting once or twice in a discussion and then bailing) in general in a game this big is a lot more likely to be 'the person had real life shit they wanted/needed to do' or just didn't feel like dealing with the game at the time than scum-motivated hiding from the thread.

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Last thing that'll probably be ignored - I would really like for the posting here to lighten up a little, at least until Almost/Easy Bake/volxen/etc show up with an actual opinion or two - I really want at least one or two solid opinions from everyone before I start diving into actually trying to get someone lynched today. Think before you spampost my friends.

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