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[Nicholai]

i don't understand pops reads at all. she said she loked my catchup and has basically only defended me or said not bad things about me since then but now is suddenly ok with voting me?

[Nicholai]

also i don't like looker. his tone irks me and the way he structures his posts in big response walls reminds me of mafia i've played with that think town should have reasonable opinions where they methodically reply to everyone but town is actually more erratic than that. he is too projecting into what he thinks a town would do instead what they actually do

[Nicholai]

bob is best for reasons before but also wake i just remembered exists

[Nicholai]

yeah actually we can't let wake get away with this disengagement is mafia indicative so this is better than random uh but also he will get replaced so we should give the replacement a chance i guess

i like gobbledy and bbmolla

[rb]

i dont like kerset this game

ive scumread them incorrectly before tho

I dont like kerset still

but i think this is in their likely town range and that they are less likely to be scum than PP/frank at the very least

ill take a PP lynch over anything else at current

i don't see why there necessarily has to be something in the kerset/frank business

there's 13 players in the game

i dont like kerset this game

ive scumread them incorrectly before tho

I dont like kerset still

but i think this is in their likely town range and that they are less likely to be scum than PP/frank at the very least

ill take a PP lynch over anything else at current

i don't see why there necessarily has to be something in the kerset/frank business

there's 13 players in the game

These are the last things rb has said about Kerset until just now. Rb never substantiated these feelings and these comments seemed like he was trying to help a buddy get out of hot water at the time

if i was scum and thought they were playing bad, i'd probably be leading the lynch on them at this point

[rb]

in fact, there's almost zero chance i go for a lurker over an actual poor player as scum on day1

[Frank]

i don't want to deal with this. i'm a cop. that's not a full claim

don't you have like 1 vote on you

[Nicholai]

rb and popsoftown voted for me and i could see how it was going again and i didn't want to deal with it. feel a lot better after claiming

[Nicholai]

don't feel scared to speak anymore. why are you ignoring my claim rb?

[skitter30]

VOTE: gobbledygook

I have made a horrific mistake unintentionally that I cannot explain right now due to site rules. But I have been playing under the assumption that I was one role when in reality I am another. I will take this L as such a massive mess up.

I don’t know what to think anymore about skitter or anyone. I will say that Pp withholding the strongman stuff is pretty weird and would be my first look.

um ....

a) i basically claimed because from my pov the setup had become ridiculous to the point of becoming literally nonsensical due to the jk claim and like no one else was seeing that so people started wagoning me for having a bizarre pov

b) the last time i saw someone do exactly this they were scum (you were even in that game ffs )

c) i now have no idea if i should be putting any weight into like anything you've done until now

and i'm mostly pissed about the fake jk thing
i'm actually really pissed about the fake jk thing

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wao.


Can someone who's played more normals than me tell me whether it's possible for all the non-rescinded claims to be true?

do you, like, see my problem now ... ?
as each claim happened i was like .... wtf, none of these make sense together

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I'm so confused

Gobble do you feel able to play to the wincon in your role pm right now?

he's basically insinuating he read the role pm for another game and thought that this was his role in this game, he reread his role pm and realized he was wrong
i do not entirely believe that

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VOTE: PP

I don’t think he forgets to put that info about strongman as town.

i find it harder to believe that he would fake-claim that as scum, tbh

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Fun note: In an extremely unlikely, but interesting, interaction with skitter and I is if we both target the same player as the Strongman, the Strongman doesn't go through. This is a wonky setup from what I can see, but it's normal and on-face balanced assuming 2 goons (also don't know gobble's actual role though).

nope, i checked that already with mena
(to whoever complained i wasn't as vocal wrt pp's claim as with profii's claim ... i was busy trying to figure out how the fuck doc, bg, and strongman are all supposed to interact)

the strongman kill would go through, the bg would not die.

[Nicholai]

gotta go be back later

[skitter30]

Because I assumed I was the protective, and I didn't see why it was important D1 for anyone else to know about a strongman.

:raises_hand:

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i don't think pp is scum
i don't like it but i don't think he's scum

if y'all need me to check him/doc him i will but i unfortunately think he's town here
i do not want to lynch him today

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Frank is town

Why? (Also why Looker might be town, but I reckon if you're not sure you probably don't have a good reason)

it's one of those things that are hard to put into words
his pov doesn't look fake, i understand his progression, he's said several things that are townie af, his tone is good, his lol-vt claim was good, his timing is good (i.e. in the sense that i think it would be hard to fake in real time)
but like all of those things collectively feel townie

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bb is town, i think

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Shit! Would've been great if you were Loyal instead. You could have targeted whoever he shoots and if they don't die they're town (since your protection went through).

yeah, no shit

i think proffi should tell me who he's lynching and that i should try to suicide, idk

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Gobble I don't necessarily care for still but my heart says the whole wrong role thing probably does flip VT.

i (and gobble) literally saw scum do this like two weeks ago so ...

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i don't want to deal with this. i'm a cop. that's not a full claim

yeah, no, this is ridiculous

[skitter30]

VOTE: kerset

[skitter30]

pops i am beginning to become paranoid

[profii]

i think proffi should tell me who he's lynching and that i should try to suicide, idk

what happens if i shoot myself and you protect me

- I survive because protection

- you get town points because I didnt die and we can start to believe you are not scum loyal lining up some fake protections etc

- if you are lying and I die, you get lynched - great for town - me dead = less negative utility and we caught a scum

[gobbledygook]

Doesn’t a weak doctor still die if they targeted a scum

[profii]

Well then I would have shot myself
Or, if I survive and pops dies I agree you lynch me

The main question I have is

mod - if I was a vig, could I decide to shoot myself?

[bob3141]

Yep weak dies if it targets scum. If it surives it gives a clear

[profii]

I'd do it but what if skitter gets roleblocked and scum let me shoot myself and insist skitter lied:(

[bob3141]

proffii why would you even consider shooting yourself. If you are a town vig then you know you are in fact town.

Shootign yourself would just drop us down by one lynch less than if you never shot. Even random shooting is better than that a random 25% hit rate is better than 0% chance to hit scum

[Frank]

i (and gobble) literally saw scum do this like two weeks ago so ...

sounds ballsy for scum!him to do it with you around, then, no?

-X

[Frank]

I JUST HYDRA SLIPPED ON A SIGNATURE HAHAHAHAH

oh wait I'm still on an alt. okay. umm this is awkward

[Frank]

I hope that isn't rulebreaking. I'm gonna go think about what I've done

[skitter30]

i think proffi should tell me who he's lynching and that i should try to suicide, idk

what happens if i shoot myself and you protect me

- I survive because protection

- you get town points because I didnt die and we can start to believe you are not scum loyal lining up some fake protections etc

- if you are lying and I die, you get lynched - great for town - me dead = less negative utility and we caught a scum

yes but unfortunately that isn't a valid night action for you. and wouldn't clear you for everyone else

the leashing was really so i didn't overlap with you
i never specified who you should vig (if i was scum and wanted to either protect my scum buddy that you were vigging or wanted to unclear you i'd need more information)
i jsut wanted a pool so i knew who to avoid

also there's a strongman apparently so i don't think i can actually protect anyone

[skitter30]

i (and gobble) literally saw scum do this like two weeks ago so ...

sounds ballsy for scum!him to do it with you around, then, no?

-X

ya true but i'm worried that's what gave him the idea